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The Rove thing

post #1 of 13
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You know this is major. He is one of the top three most powerful men in the country and thus the world, and he outted this women, OUT OF SPITE to a member of the press. The Press mind you that the right claims is amoral and left wing oriented. So he outs this woman, who is doing the countries work and helping protect us.

I mean come on, Clinton on the other hand, got a blow job. What is worse here people?
post #2 of 13
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Originally Posted by Marge
I mean come on, Clinton on the other hand, got a blow job. What is worse here people?

That's a no-brainer!
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by ugaimes

That's a no-brainer!
I know, is spite morally superior to sex?
post #4 of 13
Boy do I feel stupid. I haven't heard about this situation. Would you give some background info?
post #5 of 13
This will get swept under the rug along with DeLay. Nothing will come of it, he won't get fired, the country won't even blink an eye. I prefer to read my news rather than watch it so I don't know how the TV news networks are covering this...the only news I watch is the Daily Show. Are they covering it at all?

Politicians and their ilk...scumbags all.
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by consumercity
Boy do I feel stupid. I haven't heard about this situation. Would you give some background info?
Here it is, to my knowledge, if anyone know where I am wrong etc feel free to fill in:

(also excuse any spelling errors)

In 2003 a man named Joe Wilson, who worked for both Dem and repub adminstrations as ambassadors, investigated reports that Iraq was trying to buy uranium from Niger. Even though he concluded that there isn't wasn't true, Bush said it was in the famous speech. in 2003 Wilson wrote an op-ed piece making his findings public, thus putting the veracity of Bush' quote into question. Karl Rove then told Chris Mathews something to the effect that "Wilsons Wife was not longer safe", within a short amount of time, Robert Novack outted Wilson's wife as a CIA operative, who worked in WMD detection (she does or did). Rove has denied he was the one who actually outted her (a felony if he did-ouitting a secret operative is just that) Two journalists have been supeoned in the case, one Rove apparently let go of his confidentiality agreement, Time reporter Mike Cooper. Time complied with a court order to turn over the notes and emails. In some emails it was learned that Rove did speak to Cooper just prior to the outting. And now Rove's attorney is admitting Rove did say she worked for CIA but did not say her name, which is a legal loophole (I guess said somethign like "his wife" meaning Wilson's)

The White House is now in a muddle cause they have been saying "Anyone" involved with the outting will be fired. Now would Bush fire Rove, who could probably crush him with one blow? No, but they have egg on their face now.

It's hard to tell how this will pan out, conventional wisdom says not much will come of it. But then again, don't all men of excessive hubris shoot themselves in the foot?
post #7 of 13
Dont you find it funny that the republicans are being so "Clintonian" about this Rove thing? I LOVED Clinton! But even I have to admit he was parsing his language pretty fine when he said "it depends on what your definition of 'is' is."

So now Rove is saying that he didnt out Valerie Plame because he didnt specifically say her name to the reporter? I think saying "Joe Wilson's wife is an undercover operative in the CIA" is pretty bleepin' specific!! I hope that Rove gets fired. That's what Bush said he would do to anyone in his administration involved in the leak. Obviously, Rove was involved in the leak! And I thought that the reason why people liked Bush is that "you always know where he stands" and "he's a man of his word."

This is a test of our president. Let's see if he lives up to his word.
post #8 of 13
It's just a "Democratic smear campaign"! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071200093.html
My response to the RNC: Who was smearing whom?
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by jcat
It's just a "Democratic smear campaign"! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071200093.html
My response to the RNC: Who was smearing whom?
Yeah its' the democrats fault. Isn't everything? I mean liberals are just awful animals, and Rove is lilly white.

There was even a Fox "news" story that Bush didn't call for the leakers firing in the past (before it was disclosed it was Rove)-even though there are tapes all over of him saying that.

Also Bush sr, having been in the CIA called whoever did the leaking is a traitor of the worst kind.
post #10 of 13
I've been trying to keep up with this story as best I can. The media is beginning to push the White House for answers and are making this more and more public. Why? One of their own is sitting in jail over it. Bush is a lame duck president with terrible ratings right now. Most news medias are in it for the profit, so why continue to cow-tow to an administration that the public isn't supporting? I know a lot of democrats who have writiten the media complaining when they don't fully cover stories, who are now writing them complimenting them on keeping the Rove story public.

He is guilty of a felony, and when this is done in a time of war, it is treason. We are hoping that he doesn't get a simple hand slap, but gets sent to jail where he belongs. If all he does is resign and it is the end of it, there needs to be an outcry by everyone in the country. This man has risked the lives of all of the CIA operatives that were involved, not just Valerie.

And The Daily Show had great coverage of it last night.
post #11 of 13
Joseph Wilson is speaking out: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071400300.html I haven't read a single report about this in Germany, which surprises me.
post #12 of 13
If you would like to sign a petition to ask Karl Rove to be fired, go here. The video of the promises made by the current administration in the past are interesting at least.

http://www.democraticaction.org/firerove/
post #13 of 13
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You know as much as I can't stand this man, I have decided to wait until all the facts are in. I don't want to sink to the level the repubs sank to during the impeachment.
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