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post #1 of 18
7/11/05 at 11:23pm
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...it sometimes SOUNDS like news...but...

You know I have never watched FOX before, I mean I wasn't boycotting but I don't have cable. But then I have followed the Natalee Holloway story a bit, and FOX was covering it more. And so I watched some online. And well it's really making me realize that it's media and not news, big time. I mean people...if you watch, this is NOT journalism. It's sensationalism. It's fine if you want entertainment or tabloid, but to take it seriously nah.

For instance: They have NOT said ONE word about the Rove story. And this is a big story, what if some news source hadn't had the Lewinsky story huh? Oh yeah they have some "poll" on their site but that's it.

Tonight Greta Van Sustren had an interview on FOX that any reputable new source woudl NOT have run, it was about some alledged confession of one of the suspects in the Hollowaycase, all hear say. And not responsible story at all.

Anyways, if I never see Hannity and Colmes again I will be a happy woman. Although I do have to hand it to Hannity for blowing off that guy who wrote that book about Hilary, he said "I have issue with her politics not her lifestyle" and gave the guy a hard time. Hannity is an ass but at least he tries to be decent.
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post #2 of 18
7/12/05 at 4:42am
I do watch Fox News on occasion, but not Greta van Susteren. She tends to focus exclusively on one story for weeks at a time. Natalee Holloway is her "new" story. For awhile there it was Michael Jackson.

At 7pm there's a news show with current stories. They might mention Carl Rove then.
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post #3 of 18
7/12/05 at 7:06am
Yes, they have most definitely "mentioned" the Karl Rove story. Perhaps they don't have the clips on the website, but they are covering the story on the air.

Fox does have a bias, but it is no more of a bias than CBS. NBC, ABC, CNN, etc. have. It's just slanted in a different direction. I don't pay much heed to Greta van Sustren, any more than I pay heed to the legal chick on CNN. I don't watch Hannity & Combs either because both of them annoy the heck out of me. They both seem more intent on getting their own point across rather than actually letting any of their guests talk.
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post #4 of 18
7/12/05 at 7:13am
Just looked on the FoxNews website, and the Karl Rove story is on their front page.
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post #5 of 18
7/12/05 at 8:54am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Just looked on the FoxNews website, and the Karl Rove story is on their front page.
Yeah it's just some poll, I am sure to Look like they are covering it.

I watch Jim Lehrer personally. If you haven't I suggest giving them a try, they are mature, and have integrity.
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post #6 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:25am
What do you mean "to look like they are covering it"? It wasn't just some poll, it was a full story, and it was about how the media is calling the press secretary on the previous comments made by the administration about "taking care of" the leak once they found out who it was. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162227,00.html

Don't tell me that you're that spoon-fed by Air America to honestly think that they don't have any journalistic integrity. That would be just as bad as believing everything Rush Limbaugh says as gospel truth. They have a conservative slant, as I said before. The majority of the other major news networks have a liberal slant. But if Fox had no integrity at all they certainly wouldn't be beating the rest of the cable news networks soundly in ratings.
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post #7 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:28am
I hate it when they go on and on about a single story. That's not news. Natalee missing doesn't affect the whole country. But they spend months on this one story. Why? Is it because they don't want to cover any real news?
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post #8 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:33am
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" But if Fox had no integrity at all they certainly wouldn't be beating the rest of the cable news networks soundly in ratings."

Sorry, that quote is laughable.
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post #9 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:35am
What liberal slant?

The news papers/shows are owned by Giant Corporations. That's who they slant towards.
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post #10 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:36am
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Originally Posted by eatrawfish
What liberal slant?

The news papers/shows are owned by Giant Corporations. That's who they slant towards.
Good point, well put.

That is why I got with Lehrer.
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post #11 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:37am
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I do stand corrected, they are covering Rove NOW! They only had the poll as of last night.
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post #12 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:47am
Eliz, I see what you mean about any news organization spending huge amounts of time on one sensationalized story. How much media did the Scott Peterson trial get, or even before that when Lacey had disappeared? What about the Michael Jackson trial? Neither of those cases affected me in the slightest, and neither does the Natalee Holloway case, but regardless of what channel you turn on it is all over it.

BTW, before I'm accused of too much here, I'll state for the record that while I do watch some Fox News Channel, I mainly watch (and read) CNN for national news. On the stories, there isn't much difference as far as what is covered on both channels.

ETA, while the website may not have had a big story on Rove last night, they were covering it on the channel.
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post #13 of 18
7/12/05 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Eliz, I see what you mean about any news organization spending huge amounts of time on one sensationalized story. How much media did the Scott Peterson trial get, or even before that when Lacey had disappeared? What about the Michael Jackson trial? Neither of those cases affected me in the slightest, and neither does the Natalee Holloway case, but regardless of what channel you turn on it is all over it.

BTW, before I'm accused of too much here, I'll state for the record that while I do watch some Fox News Channel, I mainly watch (and read) CNN for national news. On the stories, there isn't much difference as far as what is covered on both channels.

ETA, while the website may not have had a big story on Rove last night, they were covering it on the channel.
You should at least *try* Lehrer. He is on radio and TV, and what they do is a news round up at first, and then go in depth on subjects. they have someone from "both sides" discuss the cause. Or they also have a person who covers teh supreme court go into detail. They also do thoughtful pieced on the arts.
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post #14 of 18
7/12/05 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Eliz, I see what you mean about any news organization spending huge amounts of time on one sensationalized story. How much media did the Scott Peterson trial get, or even before that when Lacey had disappeared? What about the Michael Jackson trial? Neither of those cases affected me in the slightest, and neither does the Natalee Holloway case, but regardless of what channel you turn on it is all over it.

BTW, before I'm accused of too much here, I'll state for the record that while I do watch some Fox News Channel, I mainly watch (and read) CNN for national news. On the stories, there isn't much difference as far as what is covered on both channels.

ETA, while the website may not have had a big story on Rove last night, they were covering it on the channel.
Exactly. What, there is no news to cover? They went on and on about Scott Peterson, MJ, etc. Does MJ's trial affects me in any way? It's horrible what had happened to Laci, but there are a lot of women murdered by their husbands, that nobody ever hears about. The same goes for Natalee. It's tragic for her parents, relatives and freinds, but I fail to see any reason whatsoever for someone like Greta to actually move to Aruba and report on it non-stop. It's absolutely insane, and for one, I get tired of watching the same story repeated day after day, about someone I never knew. It has no impact on my life. It has no impact on nobody else life, except for freinds and relatives, so why must it be on national TV day after day after day?
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post #15 of 18
7/12/05 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by Marge
You should at least *try* Lehrer. He is on radio and TV, and what they do is a news round up at first, and then go in depth on subjects. they have someone from "both sides" discuss the cause. Or they also have a person who covers teh supreme court go into detail. They also do thoughtful pieced on the arts.
It's funny you said that, because that is pretty much exactly how Fox does it on their shows too (although admittedly I haven't seen much on the arts). And they have equal numbers of liberals and conservatives discussing the issues to give both sides. Don't go by Hannity and Combs as a representative look at the channel overall, because neither of them is fair or balanced or logical in some cases!
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post #16 of 18
7/12/05 at 10:26am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
It's funny you said that, because that is pretty much exactly how Fox does it on their shows too (although admittedly I haven't seen much on the arts). And they have equal numbers of liberals and conservatives discussing the issues to give both sides. Don't go by Hannity and Combs as a representative look at the channel overall, because neither of them is fair or balanced or logical in some cases!
Lehrer never did one Jackson story, or that sort of thing though. I feel comparing them is like comparing Katie Holmes with Judy Dench, yeah they are both actors...but...
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post #17 of 18
7/12/05 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by Marge
Lehrer never did one Jackson story, or that sort of thing though. I feel comparing them is like comparing Katie Holmes with Judy Dench, yeah they are both actors...but...
Lehrer isn't a 24-hour news channel, either. The public demanded to know about the Jackson story, for instance, so CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. pretty much had to cover the story to some extent. In that extent I agree you can't really compare them because it's apples to oranges. You can't compare one show to an entire network. I'm just trying to say that Fox isn't all Greta van Sustren or Hannity & Combs.
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post #18 of 18
7/12/05 at 11:08am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Lehrer isn't a 24-hour news channel, either. The public demanded to know about the Jackson story, for instance, so CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. pretty much had to cover the story to some extent. In that extent I agree you can't really compare them because it's apples to oranges. You can't compare one show to an entire network. I'm just trying to say that Fox isn't all Greta van Sustren or Hannity & Combs.
I dont have cable or I am sure I will put on CNN here and there, and yes, even FOX. My point is I don't take FOX too seriously. Where as in contrast I do trust Lehrer but you are correct that they are different. it is different when you go to the 24 hour news thing.
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