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post #61 of 71
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Originally Posted by esrgirl
What I mean is, if one isn't prolife then it doesn't matter to them whether an egg would eventually become a chicken- the egg doesn't have a central nervous system. It isnt a chicken yet. Milk also does not have a central nervous system-therefor it isn't meat. Fish are meat. Milk may come from a cow or goat, but the only kind of vegetarian who would be concerned is a vegan.

I should also note that two years ago I considered anyone who called themselves a vegetarian and did eat milk and eggs a non-vegetarian because the practice of exploiting animals was as bad to me as eating meat and inadvertingly lead to the killing of animals regardless. Only a vegan is a true vegetarian! Needless to say I changed my mind, so hey, what do I know!
I am just agreeing to agree here, in principle.
We are saying the exact same thing.
I was just stumbling over your own semantics and trying to point out that you erroneously stated that vegetarians eat only PLANT based items when obviously milk and cheese aren't PLANT BASED...That is the only point I was trying to get across. I am sure you agree.
I wasn't getting into anything being prolife or discussing the fine lines of vegetarianism.
I simply wanted to point out the error in your statement
"that vegetarians only eat PLANT BASED ITEMS"...

Milk and cheese may not be animals per se, but they certainly aren't plant based! At least from what I remember from Biology class

And I think someone has every right to call themselves a vegetarian if they eat these items

I know vegetarians and vegans and then there are those who call themselves vegetarians but all they really eat are fries..(I secretly call those friends starchatarians
)
post #62 of 71
Oh, I know some starchitarians!! And some pastatarians- which might be another kind of starchitarian I've even met quite a few "fat" vegans because they mostly just eat carbs and starches. I laugh at myself now, with some of the things I used to believe and think- especially when I was a new vegan. Anytime anyone is new at anything I think we get a little overzealous!
post #63 of 71
Its funny you say the "fat vegan" thing...Being vegan is SO difficult at first and does take some dedication in terms of making sure you are getting the right nutrients...
Some of the people who I know have been vegan for some kind of special attention status I am sure...as they aren't healthy at all! But rather, I find they are quite pasty and have a paunch belly. Another vegan friend told me that that was due to neglecting proteins..The body just can't build muscle if you don't know how to combine your foods etc..

One of the main reasons I am not vegan/veg is that I am too lazy to know how to do it right
post #64 of 71
I got lazy, that was part of it. As soon as I stopped being vegan I gained like 30lbs. I also work at the Olive Garden, which I'm sure doesn't help I'm now trying to lose it by cutting down to just one serving of chicken a day and not putting cheese on everything!! I had so many friends with vegan bellies though- it was kind of funny.
post #65 of 71
I have to admit that right now I have a fridge full of meat, not for me, but for the kittens! Max is refusing to eat kitten food, so I actually cooked a full roast chicken yesterday. He eats kittens biscuits, but I just feel better knowing that he's had some good substantial protein in him!

Why is it that I have no problems at all cooking meat for the kittens, but still wouldn't dream of eating any of it myself!?
post #66 of 71
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Originally Posted by Purity
Why is it that I have no problems at all cooking meat for the kittens, but still wouldn't dream of eating any of it myself!?
Its a good thing and imo the only smart thing to do!

Cats and kittens need their meaty treats, we techincally dont.

what kitten food have you tried max on? have you tried hi-life? its made with real meat and he might like that more.
post #67 of 71
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Originally Posted by Purity
I have to admit that right now I have a fridge full of meat, not for me, but for the kittens! Max is refusing to eat kitten food, so I actually cooked a full roast chicken yesterday. He eats kittens biscuits, but I just feel better knowing that he's had some good substantial protein in him!

Why is it that I have no problems at all cooking meat for the kittens, but still wouldn't dream of eating any of it myself!?
Good! Cats are naturally carnivores, so a meat-based diet is healthiest for them. I was a vegetarian from 1987-1997; then I started eating fish again. I cook meat for my BF and friends. I don't feel that I should impose my diet on others, unless they're interested. My BF used to be a vegetarian too and usually eats whatever I do, but sometimes wants a change. I think some people shouldn't eat meat (me, because it would bother me), some people shouldn't watch TV (if they are easily influenced), and some people shouldn't drink.

One thing that really annoys me is when people question my diet with an attitude. For instance, well - you eat eggs, don't you? And now of course that I eat fish I hear that too. If I had the extra time and willpower, I would love to be vegan.
post #68 of 71
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Originally Posted by maverick_kitten
Its a good thing and imo the only smart thing to do!

Cats and kittens need their meaty treats, we techincally dont.

what kitten food have you tried max on? have you tried hi-life? its made with real meat and he might like that more.
Haven't tried that one yet. I'm going to make a trip to Pets at Home at the weekend and buy one of everything I can find, the little toad has to like something!!
post #69 of 71
I can finally post in here, have been reading this thread with interest.

I have been a vegetarian for about 3 1/2 years now (although yes i do eat fish - there is a special name but it would confuse matters to much, so i dont use it). When i first became a vegi, my mother couldnt accept it and would do daft things like cook something with meat, but take the meat out of my portion. The first 2 weeks (i went once a week for my tea), i was polite and ate it, the third week was omelette with bacon in, and i refused to eat it, and only ate the potatoes as she had cooked individual omelettes so could have not put the bacon in mine - she was then told that if she couldnt accept my wishes then i wouldnt be going round for my tea anymore, she altered then.

I do occasionally buy meat for friends, i did the other year after my birthday so they could have a fry up in the morning, but normally if i cook for friends it is something like lasagne made with Quorn, and the first time i did it no one could tell it wasnt meat!!

I do cook chicken for my cats too, they did get it weekly while i had Snowy, but it has died off since as I have to watch their weight (although they got some last night as one had been spayed) and they occasionally get sliced meat. I do prefer to get ready cooked, sliced chicken breast, tinned fish or hi-life for them though. My neighbour did try and accuse me of pushing my beliefs onto my cats as they rarely got sliced/fresh meat, but they did get hi-life daily/twice daily (again, now stopped due to weight issues). I am weird in that i will handle sliced meat with a knife and fork for them though!
post #70 of 71
I've been a vegetarian for almost 15 years. I do eat eggs and dairy but I also hold a lot of guilt for doing this since I genuinely do not want to be a part of the torture these animals endure (the chickens and cows who live for the sole purpose of supplying us with these unnecessary "foods").

I do plan to eventually become vegan when I feel I can fully take it on (habitually and financially).

I think I'll leave it at that. I'm overly passionate when it comes to the issue of animals used for food (even if I'm a hypocrite to a certain extent..at least I acknowledge it).

I commend all of you here who are vegan/vegetarian Regardless of what "catagory" you belong in, restricting meat at any amount, be it partially or completely, is in my opinion awesome.
post #71 of 71
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Originally Posted by Shem
I'm glad I can finally post here, I've wanted to for ages. I am a vegetarian and I'd just like to tell everyone something that happened to me in work. There's a girl in work who is plain evil. She made soup the other day and purposely didn't put meat in it so I could have some. I ate and enjoyed the soup and thought no more of it. A few hours later she turned around and said 'You know that soup I made earlier? I made it with Chicken stock and wondered if you'd notice?' I couldn't believe it. She vindictively made that soup knowing it wasn't vegetarian friendly and then watched me eat it. I hate it when people do that, there is no need. What if I'd been allergic to it or something? Grrr!! IMO that's bang out of order. Does anyone agree?

i think that's very rude, i'm a vegetarian and my nan used to make "vegetarian" soup, i would think 'what a lovely gesture' then halfway through i'd find a peice of ham, i'd ask her what it it was and she'd say 'oh that? it's only a little peice of meat'

if she wanted to use meat she could have just told me and i would have had something else, i think it's just plain rude how people do that.

i also can't stand it when i'm at a bbq eating salad and people walk past and shove their plate filled with sausage or steak in my face and go 'mmmm, look what your missing out on' or' just have some, it won't hurt'


some people just don't get it at all...
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