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post #1 of 26
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What do you guys think of this?
post #2 of 26
It seems pretty stupid to me. That would be like depicting a scene from the Clinton/Lewenski affair. It's in bad taste as far as I'm concerned.
post #3 of 26
"A woman reported a rape, noting she had scratched the attacker on his genitals. Wood took matters into his own hands, lining up the suspects and demanding that they drop their pants so he could "inspect" them."

Sounds to me like he was doing his job as a law enforcer.
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post #5 of 26
I think it's nice that they wanted to put up a statue...but I think that the image may be a bit risque for the general public.
post #6 of 26
esr, you are TOO precious ! ! !

Bad taste ? ? ?

Leonard
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by lakeriedog
I think it's nice that they wanted to put up a statue...but I think that the image may be a bit risque for the general public.
I think that it says a lot about the open-mindedness of the society to allow the erection (no pun intended) of a statue of a hero to the gay community. My hats off to them for that! However, the image that they chose is a bit too risque, IMO, to be out for the general public to see. I'd say the SAME THING if it depicted a man or a woman.
post #8 of 26
Oh my, I said "bad taste". I didn't even think about how that would come off.. oh no.. I said come off...
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by esrgirl
Oh my, I said "bad taste". I didn't even think about how that would come off.. oh no.. I said come off...
Thats ok, Amy said erection.
post #10 of 26
That's a very eye-catching plaque! I really don't see anything wrong with it, since the explanation is directly below the image.
post #11 of 26
I don't have a problem with it. I have more of a problem with walking past homeless, dirty, smelly, drunk, addicted people on the sidewalk.
post #12 of 26
it is misleading, if people don't read the plaque, they won't know what it means.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by jcat
That's a very eye-catching plaque! I really don't see anything wrong with it, since the explanation is directly below the image.
I see nothing wrong with it either. Plenty of paintings hang in museums that depict Greek/Roman orgies, and bathhouse scenes. I've also seen some very sensual statues with groups/pairs of women, kind of like The Three Graces, but up a notch or so in sexuality.

The person in the article is correct, people don't read anymore...they just react.
post #14 of 26
It is tasteless, but I don't think we need to come to blows over it.

Leonard
post #15 of 26
I think that because the sculpture is outside on a city street, and not in a museum, it's a bit too risque for children to see. People who go to a museum have a choice to go see an article displayng sexuality and they have the choice to keep their children away from such a piece of art. To have it out in a city square for anyone who walks by to see, is wrong, and in my opinion is not a way to win understanding and acceptance for gay people. I think it could have been done with a bit more class, than to display the nudity on the plaque on a city street.
post #16 of 26
There are many nude/sensual statues in the NYC park system, I've yet to see anyone faint away after viewing them. In fact most people walk by them oblivious to their existence. Maybe having a career that has "exposed" me to nudity on a regular basis has made me immune to the idea. I've seen subway ads and billboards that have offended me more with their depiction of sexuality.

Hey, maybe that's why they call New York, The Naked City! LOL!
post #17 of 26
I live and work in the West Hollywood area. It's heavily gay oriented area. I've seen a lot of things, but seeing the plaque with the guy bent down examing another mans privates, did look a bit beyond what I'd call nude art. To be honest, I couldn't see the picture that well, but I could clearly see the man standing with his back to us, bare buttocks, and the other man stooped down facing his private area. That is a bit different than a nude, statue like a Michelangelo. To me, it looks like they took it a couple of steps too far.
post #18 of 26
I think it goes a bit far as well...

And I also am not sure what to make of the last comment made in the article about people rubbing the buttocks for luck...
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker
I live and work in the West Hollywood area. It's heavily gay oriented area. I've seen a lot of things, but seeing the plaque with the guy bent down examing another mans privates, did look a bit beyond what I'd call nude art. To be honest, I couldn't see the picture that well, but I could clearly see the man standing with his back to us, bare buttocks, and the other man stooped down facing his private area. That is a bit different than a nude, statue like a Michelangelo. To me, it looks like they took it a couple of steps too far.
My first impression of the plaque was of a doctor examining military inductees for lice, etc.! I just didn't see the buttocks in a sexual context.
post #20 of 26
Someone mentioned that the buttocks were treated in the same manner as the Blarney Stone, so does that mean that one kisses them, and like the Blarney Stone, must one be held by the heels in the doing of it ?

Leonard
post #21 of 26
At first glance, it seems a tad risque, but it IS in the gay village after all, and you CAN'T miss the boundaries of the community. What, with large rainbows flags on every corner and on city street signs, just stay away from the neighbourhood and the culture if you disapprove. It's not like it's tourist central anyway... unless you're touring there for a specific reason.

As others have stated, I've been more shocked at billboard advertisements and the marketing of child sexuality I see every time I turn on the television.
post #22 of 26
Very good points Jenn, especially about where the work is located.
post #23 of 26
Staying out of the Gay Community in Toronto may not always be possible. As I recall, I went to see The Phantom of The Opera there, when Paul Stanley was appearing. When we went back to our hotel, the cab driver took us thru the Gay Community, to get there.

Like I said, I live and work in the heart of "Boys Town", in West Hollywood. I've seen a lot, and I see how militant a lot of Gays get to show off their "Gay Pride". I see the plaque as more of a shock value sort of thing. It's a big turn off, if you ask me. I am not by any means anti gay, but I do think this is not a way to win over acceptance and understanding.

I wonder how people would feel, if a statue were erected of a Doctor who had been a real hero, and they decided to show him doing a pelvic exam on a woman, with her legs up in stirrups. I don't think it would go over very well. As far as I see this, it's the same thing.
post #24 of 26
Reminds me of the folks that hate the X-rated films - all the way through!
post #25 of 26
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker
I wonder how people would feel, if a statue were erected of a Doctor who had been a real hero, and they decided to show him doing a pelvic exam on a woman, with her legs up in stirrups. I don't think it would go over very well. As far as I see this, it's the same thing.
If the "hero" doctor being portrayed was Dr. Papanicolaou, I'd have no problem with it, he saved and continues to save countless lives.

Theatre disticts, and the plays themselves can be very risque. If people don't like it stay away. If your buzzing through on a taxi, I doubt you would see much of anything that will offend. The nature of art is to enlight, open minds and raise eyebrows. I mentioned in another thread that some folks want to put a fig leaf on Michaelangelo's David, that's rediculous. Ever watch Sister Wendy, the British nun/art expert...she may not care for the bare butt plaque we are talking about, but she would never want it torn down...and she's in her 80s! When we start wanting to oppress ANY art, even if we don't deem it art, we are no better than the Nazi's, who removed art they found objectional or burned books.
post #26 of 26
hmmmm..... I don't think that''s the right thing to commerate.
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