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Michael Jackson NOT guilty

post #1 of 79
Thread Starter 
Not guilty on all charges, what a crock!!!!!!!!!!!
post #2 of 79
That does not suprise me at all, although I agree- what a crock!
post #3 of 79
Thread Starter 
Once again reinforcing the idea that if you have enough money, you can get away with ANYTHING!!
post #4 of 79
Yup..what a crock of crud....joe down the road would have been locked up..
post #5 of 79
I can't believe he got away with it ... now he has a green light to molset children with out fear of being brought up on charges. Good going jury you let another person go because they're famous
post #6 of 79
Doesn't mean he isn't guilty, just that they couldn't prove that he was to the satisfaction of the jury.
post #7 of 79
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I can't believe he got away with it ... now he has a green light to molset children with out fear of being brought up on charges. Good going jury you let another person go because they're famous
From what the note to the judge said, it sounded like they took their responsibility very seriously. I have trouble believing that he is a free man just because he is a celebrity..although I'm sure a good legal team did make a difference in casting reasonable doubt.
post #8 of 79
...and a lot of people say that the prosecution did a crappy job presenting the case against him. The prosecution left room for resonable doubt.
post #9 of 79
I think the jury took their job very seriously. For them to find him not guilty on all 10 counts, there must have been a lot of
"reasonable doubt."

By the way, kelly, your fur guys are adorable!
post #10 of 79
From what I've heard the mother, victim, and brother were all caught lying on numerous occassions. Aside from her lying, much of the rest of her testimony only served to hinder the prosecution. From what I understand she made herself sound like a money hungry woman. They brought up a lawsuit she had brought against JC Penny and she couldn't defend herself.

Also, I heard people saying that had this been a Joe Schmo off the street it probably never would have MADE IT to trial thanks to the shoddy work of the prosecution. According to some sources the only reason it got pushed this far was because it was Jackson. Apparently the prosecution had incredible holes in their case, and most were saying that the verdict was of no surprise thanks to that.

I'm not sure whether I believe he did these things or not. I do believe that this woman was after money in this, and thanks to all of the lies she and her boys were caught in, I have no doubt that she asked them to tell the fabrications. This boy was on the documentary with Jackson two years ago, which was made BEFORE the alleged molestion, and something seems fishy about that to me. She obviously was well aware that he was sleeping in the same bed as Jackson over at Neverland ranch, but this didn't upset her then? It's obvious that Jackson has problems, I'm sure a lot of that he can thank his father for, but it doesn't seem obvious to me that he's done anything. Nothing in the case proved anything except that he was a weird guy, and quite frankly weirdness does not equal child molestor. Whether he did or not, it certainly was not proven in this circus of a trial, and because of that it's only right that he walk. For anyone that really thinks he did it, blame the prosecution, not the jury.
post #11 of 79
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Originally Posted by pjk5900
Not guilty on all charges, what a crock!!!!!!!!!!!
Was there ever any doubt? I don't think US jury will ever convict a celebrity even if that celebrity is videotaped committing a crime.
post #12 of 79
"reasonable doubt" Nothing else to say.
post #13 of 79
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Originally Posted by Deb25
"reasonable doubt" Nothing else to say.
I would like to see if this jury would still have doubt if the person on trial was Michael Smith and not Michael Jackson.
post #14 of 79
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Originally Posted by elizwithcat
I would like to see if this jury would still have doubt if the person on trial was Michael Smith and not Michael Jackson.
I think it would have turned out the same, had it even made it to trial. When 3 key people to the prosecution get caught in a number of lies it's hard to recover from.
post #15 of 79
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Originally Posted by katspixiedust
I think it would have turned out the same, had it even made it to trial. When 3 key people to the prosecution get caught in a number of lies it's hard to recover from.
I seriously doubt it. I think as soon as Michael Smith admitted he slept in the same bed with numerous teenage boys, it would have been all over for him.
post #16 of 79
"The mother of the accuser was MJ's best defense." Bill O'Reilly

She has lied several times.

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Originally Posted by Kellyyfaber
...and a lot of people say that the prosecution did a crappy job presenting the case against him. The prosecution left room for resonable doubt.
post #17 of 79
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Originally Posted by elizwithcat
I seriously doubt it. I think as soon as Michael Smith admitted he slept in the same bed with numerous teenage boys, it would have been all over for him.
Once again I have to disagree. The parents knew about their children sleeping in his bed, and could have done something about that. Since that was already a public known fact and since this mother knew and allowed her son to do so, it has no bearing on whether or not he committed the crime he was accused of. The fact is that this case was not about the children sleeping in his bed, it was about actual molestation and when the mother of the accuser is found to chronically file lawsuits and be lying on the stand the prosecution hardly has any leg to stand on. Not to mention the fact that it has been brought up that with so many holes in the prosecution most people would never have seen a trial. A judge would have dismissed the case at the preliminary hearing.

I would also like to point out again that I'm not saying that he did it or not, no one but Michael himself and that boy know for sure. I'm simply saying that the prosecution had a weak case made even weaker by their key witnesses: the accusers themselves.
post #18 of 79
I just don't get, why on God's earth, anyone would let their child sleep in the same bed as a grown man they are not related to?

I don't doubt the sincerity of the jury. Reasonable doubt exists for a reason and shouldn't be ignored. I have no idea if that particular kid was really molested, but it frightens me to think of that man having access to more children, given his behavior- especially with just how textbook this behavior is on the part of a child molestor/pedophile.
post #19 of 79
I'm very pleased with the verdict. I've always believed he was not guilty and for the jury to find him not guilty on all 10 counts, what does that say? I would say he most certainly is innocent.
post #20 of 79
Well, I guess he's free to find another mother who doesn't give a crap about her child who will allow him to molest yet another........

You know, when if comes down to it, you gotta blame the mothers - they KNOW his reputation with children and they still allow this animal to be near their children.
post #21 of 79
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Originally Posted by lisalee
I'm very pleased with the verdict. I've always believed he was not guilty and for the jury to find him not guilty on all 10 counts, what does that say? I would say he most certainly is innocent.
OJ was found (in your way of looking at things) innocent as well.
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post #23 of 79
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Originally Posted by catherine
Well, I guess he's free to find another mother who doesn't give a crap about her child who will allow him to molest yet another........

You know, when if comes down to it, you gotta blame the mothers - they KNOW his reputation with children and they still allow this animal to be near their children.
It's very sad but I have no doubt there are women who will continue to do the very same thing these mothers prior to this did. One only has to look at all these people outside of the court house-crying, carrying on, letting out white doves, etc. I bet almost any of these people would allow M.J. to sleep with their little boys. That's celebrity for you-they can do anything they want and get away with it. And the people so blinded by celebrity that they would allow the celebrity to do anything he wants.
post #24 of 79
Maybe they should start prosecuting the mothers who allow their children to be raped physically and mentally by this monster?

Do you think that will convince some of the idiotic mothers to keep their innocent children away?
post #25 of 79
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Originally Posted by catherine
Maybe they should start prosecuting the mothers who allow their children to be raped physically and mentally by this monster?

Do you think that will convince some of the idiotic mothers to keep their innocent children away?
If they can't even convict "this monster", how would they convict the mothers?
After all, the jury apparently believes nothing was done to these children. I don't think there is any way to prevent these mothers from allowing their little boys to hang around him. I would be all for it, but I don't think there is any way this could be done legally.
post #26 of 79
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Originally Posted by elizwithcat
If they can't even convict "this monster", how would they convict the mothers?
After all, the jury apparently believes nothing was done to these children. I don't think there is any way to prevent these mothers from allowing their little boys to hang around him. I would be all for it, but I don't think there is any way this could be done legally.
I know, I was just being sarcastic. Sorry, it's my strange sense of humor!
post #27 of 79
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Originally Posted by Deb25
"reasonable doubt" Nothing else to say.

I agree that's what it's all about the doubt, it really wasn't a very strong case IMO, I really can't say he did or didn't, I just saying to myself I hope he didn't.
There are things that may make people think he did, because he's weird or strange, that doesn't make him a child molester,
sleeping in the same bed, don't think that looked to good but like someone said the parents are at fault for letting that go on,
Also IMO alot of people think because he's famous that's why he got off, on the other hand that could be why he found himself in this mess,
I don't know if he did or didn't I guess 12 people don't think the case was proved, end of story...
post #28 of 79
I dont know if he did or didnt do what he was charged with BUT I do know that hell would have to freeze over before he got near my children.
post #29 of 79
I do think he's a pedophile, but obviously this case wasn't a good one to bring to court because of the family involved. The jury couldn't rule on whether or not he's ever molested a child, but only if he molested this particular child. Just based on what I heard on the news, there was certainly reasonable doubt presented without the defense doing a darn thing. The jury heard everything presented, not just what the commentators thought was important, so I have to trust their judgement.

I do think he is guilty of *something*, but I don't know that the charges presented to the jury covered it in this case.
post #30 of 79
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Originally Posted by mistys mum
I dont know if he did or didnt do what he was charged with BUT I do know that hell would have to freeze over before he got near my children.

I have a feeling he will molest again and again, and get away with is again and again and again. They won't be able to bring charges again anytime soon. He is free to abuse children without fear of being brought up on charges.

If he was smart he will limit his time with children not letting himself to be alone with children and never again let children sleep in his room. This man needs help and has to realize it.

I was shocked to hear that the jury did not believe the Youth Minister who said he was molested by Jackson.

I don't understand how a man who danced on the roof of a SUV, showed up in his pjs andwas late numerous times, showing such disrespect for the legal system can get away with this.
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