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post #1 of 17
6/10/05 at 11:55pm
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What does everybody use for wormer?
I'm fairly sure you dont use the same stuff for horses on cats?
LOL, I've always just took what the vet gave me.
Figure I should find out a bit more.
Is the stuff you buy at stores effective and safe? Or should I just stick to the stuff the vet hands me?
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post #2 of 17
6/11/05 at 12:22am
Definitely not the horse stuff! But you knew that! I think it safer to stick with what the vet recommends - wormers need to be chosen with regard to the cat's age and weight, and the vet is the best person to make the right judgement. Also, like flea treatments, some OTC stuff can be ineffective or even dangerous.
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post #3 of 17
6/11/05 at 10:10am
I agree with useing what the vet gives you. From what i understand its similar, to the horsey stuff. but you really do not want to give horse stuff to cats. Horse stuff is much much stronger. It is after all made for BIG horses, lol. and it says on most of them not for use on dogs and cats.
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post #4 of 17
6/11/05 at 10:23am
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lol...well of course i wouldnt give them the exact same stuff, but brand/ingrediant wise?
i mean theres ivermectin, um safegruad, quest, strongid, panacur, panamec...i cant think of anymore at the moment.
ANy of those the same for cat dewormers?
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post #5 of 17
6/11/05 at 10:24am
If you give a wormer that you use for horses, cattle or sheep to your cat(s) be very sure you are prepared for the result that does often happen- sickness, neurological damage even death. Your best course of action is to run a fecal into your vet, have him give you the proper dosage of medicine for the parasites discovered. Don't self-medicate your cat with over the counter wormers, all to often the result is not what is expected. The vet will have to know how much your cat weighs in order to dose the cat correctly. I would never give my cats any of the wormers I give my horses.
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post #6 of 17
6/11/05 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by Aquiel
What does everybody use for wormer?
I'm fairly sure you dont use the same stuff for horses on cats?
LOL, I've always just took what the vet gave me.
Figure I should find out a bit more.
Is the stuff you buy at stores effective and safe? Or should I just stick to the stuff the vet hands me?
Up until one month ago I didn't think using store-bought wormer was dangerous but like another person here said, these wormers can be downright toxic or deadly. My cat Heeby recently died because I gave her roundworm medicine (piperazine) and I didn't know she had other internal illnesses already weakening her body. The wormer sent her into a paralyzed state for several days. By the time she recovered from the initial toxic poisoning her body was too damaged to keep functioning.

Everyone has their own ways of treating their cats but the safest way is to have your vet diagnose what parasite your cat has and give your cat the proper dosage and type of medicine. I learned the hard way not to self diagnose my babies. Sorry, I'm not out to scare you...I just don't want any other cats to endure unnecessary pain like my Heeby did. Vet visits may be costly but it's more than worth it in the longrun.
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post #7 of 17
6/11/05 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by Aquiel
lol...well of course i wouldnt give them the exact same stuff, but brand/ingrediant wise?
i mean theres ivermectin, um safegruad, quest, strongid, panacur, panamec...i cant think of anymore at the moment.
ANy of those the same for cat dewormers?

I wouldnt use ANY horse wormer on Cats. Its made up diffrently, as horse worms are diffrent than cats..and as for quest...well I wouldnt even use that stuff on my horses..but thats me. Seen to man broodmares loose babies to that stuff.
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post #8 of 17
6/11/05 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by hissy
If you give a wormer that you use for horses, cattle or sheep to your cat(s) be very sure you are prepared for the result that does often happen- sickness, neurological damage even death.
my vet prescribed a parasite treatment intended to cattle for my pet mouse a few years ago. the medicine cause the poor thing to fit, froth, tremble and die.

such a nasty thing to see.
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post #9 of 17
6/11/05 at 1:42pm
My vet says that there is no one wormer that works on all kinds of worms. You have to have a wormer prescribed for the type of worms that the cat has.
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post #10 of 17
6/11/05 at 3:23pm
I now go to the vet.. after talking on here and talking with my vet.. who asked if i wormed my youngest cat and I said well I tried the liquid..lol.. he said enough said I will worm her..
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post #11 of 17
6/11/05 at 4:36pm
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i would never give horse wormer to cats, i was simply wondering if cat womer uses the same ingredients...
ps: as for the quest, i only use it on my adult horses when it is called for, and it is dangerous to give to foal, sick or old horses, however in healthy adult horses it is safe to use. ive seen first hand what the stuff can do to a foal or sick horse, it certianly isnt nice.
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post #12 of 17
6/11/05 at 5:22pm
I will never use quest either- even though I have geldings- one thing about worming without a vet's intervention. If you cat is sick in other ways, worming her with over the counter anything could be downright dangerous. Just don't risk it-
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post #13 of 17
6/11/05 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by Aquiel
i would never give horse wormer to cats, i was simply wondering if cat womer uses the same ingredients...
ps: as for the quest, i only use it on my adult horses when it is called for, and it is dangerous to give to foal, sick or old horses, however in healthy adult horses it is safe to use. ive seen first hand what the stuff can do to a foal or sick horse, it certianly isnt nice.

I have seen what it can do to a healthy horse too. Glad its ok on your horses. I myself wont use it.
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post #14 of 17
6/11/05 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by hissy
I will never use quest either- even though I have geldings- one thing about worming without a vet's intervention. If you cat is sick in other ways, worming her with over the counter anything could be downright dangerous. Just don't risk it-
I wont worm geldings, mares..nothing with that stuff. nope. nu uh seen to much at the clinic.
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post #15 of 17
6/11/05 at 5:34pm
Panacur is used for roundworms in cats and dogs. Albon is used for coccidia. Flagyl for giardia. Ivermectin for whipworms. Droncit for tapeworms. These are just a few of the wormers used in both cats and dogs for different worms, that is why a fecal sample is so important so we can determine which one to use. Over the counter meds are inefective becuase your not sure what exactly your treating, plus the danger of overmedicating.
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post #16 of 17
6/11/05 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by Petnurse2265
Panacur is used for roundworms in cats and dogs. Albon is used for coccidia. Flagyl for giardia. Ivermectin for whipworms. Droncit for tapeworms. These are just a few of the wormers used in both cats and dogs for different worms, that is why a fecal sample is so important so we can determine which one to use. Over the counter meds are inefective becuase your not sure what exactly your treating, plus the danger of overmedicating.

thnx, thats all i wanted to know!!
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post #17 of 17
6/11/05 at 6:07pm
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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms
I wont worm geldings, mares..nothing with that stuff. nope. nu uh seen to much at the clinic.
i used to feel that way as well, untill my vet explained why quest can be so dangerous, and why it has to be used properly, and why proper worming is so importnat, i think ive only used it once thus far on my gelding, as they all are on a specific roation for worming.
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