The Nerve of Some People!!

Just a short while ago, some family friends of mine decided to go on vacation for one week. Of course, as responsible cat owners, they paid one of the nieghborhood kids to come by twice a day and feed their cats, a "blue" Persian stud kitten (he was only 8 months old, but had excellent papers and they were going to breed him when he was mature), and a shaded silver female Persian, but she isn't really involved in this story.
Anyways, while they were away, someone broke into their house...the girl who was "babysitting" the cats discovered this when she came to feed them on her way to school one morning. She called the cops and they did their usual "look around and investigate" but they couldn't contact the owners of the house because they were away from the hotel for the day surfing or something. So it wasn't until the day after that the girl began to worry like crazy because she couldn't find the male cat; the burglar had broken a window and the cat had gotten out.
Someone down the street had found him, and taken him in. Waited a whopping *day and a half* for the owners to reclaim them, put a little white sign on a tree in front of their house. Of course, they never got called, and so I guess they decided to take the cat in. Upon discovery that the cat was a tom, they decided to "do the world a favour" and got him neutered. Now if it had been some ratty looking stray I would have commended their actions, but he was well-fed, he had been brushed every second day for his whole life, and was very well socialized...did they not notice that he was also a relatively expensive breed? My goodness...you can imagine how ticked off my friends were when they came home, found that not only was their house broken into, but their prize stud tom was missing! And when they called around the neighborhood and finally found him, they were horrified to find out that he had been neutered.
I'm sure the poor cat wasn't too thrilled at his sudden change of careers, either.
It really angers me how some people fail to execute the "observe, think, and *then* do" process! They paid a lot for that kitten, paid a lot in vet bills to make sure he was healthy enough to advertise for stud, and now some righteous do-gooder goes and messes it all up for them, without so much as a second thought to what might come of their actions.
Grrrr.

the people who found the cat were out of line!!!
perhaps if they searched and searched for weeks and weeks and months! then maybe they could justify nuetering the cat...
but certainly not in this case!!
some people!!!

I agree with you totally.. if it was some ragged, poor looking kitty who was all skin and bones and unsocial, or even if it was a skinny feral that you could tell had been out a while, you still should wait at least two weeks or a month to get the cat neutered.. the fact that they picked up a specific, expensive breed of cat that was well groomed, fat, and socialized and neutered him is outrageous! THey COULD sue the people for the loss of a stud cat, because he would have brung in money, and they could sue for emotional damages, heck, even the medical bills they paid to make sure this was a very good stud cat, and stuff like that. I think also it would be nice if the breeder who supplied the kitten would give them another, and that the people who neutered the cat had to pay for it.

What kind of person would do something like that? Look for a day or two and decide "oh, well lets to alter the cat now" They should come on here and look at the thread of the missing kitten! Of course, that kitten isnt purebred.. but still....

yeah...we told them to sue, but after the break-in and splurging on their vacation, they couldn't actually afford to pay for a lawyer And the best part? When they *did* confront the people about it, they were all nasty and said that they shouldn't be breeding cats anyways, purebred or not, and that half of the cats they bred would jsut end up in the SPCA anyways. *sigh*

Oh my gosh! That is an awful story.

That is so not good... I would be screaming mad

Well, as someone who fosters cats, and is more geared towards limiting cat reproduction rather than breeding purebreds, I am not as offended as the rest of you. Two days is awful quick to neuter a found animal, but weren't the owners at least a little pleased to know the kitten was found and ok?

I think it is horrible to consider suing your neighbors over neutering a cat. Just tell them to be glad the kitten was found in good health, and they got him back. Sorry they lost their investment, but that can happen for lots of reasons with purebreds. Now he is "just a cat", and hopefully that is enough for them!

if they can get a loan or find the money somehwo, they can also put in that the people who neutered the cat have to pay their lawyer expenses also. or they could represent themselves.

I guess I see too many throw away cats , so I would not be upset about a cat being fixed. I agree that they should have waited a few days but I would be happy he was safe and not out on the street.

Originally Posted by catlover7731

I guess I see too many throw away cats , so I would not be upset about a cat being fixed. I agree that they should have waited a few days but I would be happy he was safe and not out on the street.

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I agree with you completly. While they did jump the gun a little by getting him fixed, they also did not have to take him in. I think the owners should be grateful that someone found him and was looking out for what they thought was the cats best intrest. They could have just as easily turned their head and let the cat wander the streets. What if this tom had gotten another cat pregnant? it would have decreased the value of his other litters (if I understand breeding properly, but forgive me, I am no expert by any means.) What if he had gotten in a fight or run over. I hate to think what would have happened if someone decided to use him as bait to fight dogs or to mistreat him in other ways. I see it all to often on animal cops on the telly. Even if he was a stud cat, first and foremost he was a pet, and any loving owner would be more than happy to have their pet returned in a healthy condition. (I honestly would offer to pay part of the vet bill or do something to the family to show my grattitude for them caring for my cat.)

Well, sorry to say it, but the cat's owners are lucky someone had taken him in.
It's too bad he got neutered when the owners didn't want that done, but he could have ended up dead on the side of the road.
So, the owners really should cut their losses and be greatful the cat didn't die.
Or wasn't sold.
That the people who found him were honest and did what they thought was best. They sound like very responcible caring people. The cat had just ended up neutered, and it could have been a lot worse. Furthemore, the people that took him in could have lied and not even return him.

wow that really stinks! they couldve at least tried to find the owner harder before taking any action!!! This reminded me right away of the everybody loves raymond episode where his brother found a dog and their parents got it neutered and later found out it was some little old ladies breeding dog.

I agree that its good the cat was found ok. But I also agree that those who found the cat should have waited longer than they did. The cat was obviously taken care of, and social. And as someone who is investing in her first kitties for a persian cattery i know the expense, and it does dent the pocket book. You do it for love and betterment of the breed of course. But i know I would for one be pretty upset if someone did that to my stud cat...I hope something good comes of it..

Originally Posted by ScamperFarms

I agree that its good the cat was found ok. But I also agree that those who found the cat should have waited longer than they did. The cat was obviously taken care of, and social. And as someone who is investing in her first kitties for a persian cattery i know the expense, and it does dent the pocket book. You do it for love and betterment of the breed of course. But i know I would for one be pretty upset if someone did that to my stud cat...I hope something good comes of it..

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If your stud cat run off, for whatever reason, and people that found him were dishonest, you would never see him again. I realize the owners are upset about cat being neutered, but would it have been any better if it got hit by a car and died? Or went out and mated with a bunch of female cats, go Felv or FiV? He would be ruined as a stud cat in any case. They should count their lucky stars instead of being angry at the people that found their cat.

Originally Posted by elizwithcat

If your stud cat run off, for whatever reason, and people that found him were dishonest, you would never see him again. I realize the owners are upset about cat being neutered, but would it have been any better if it got hit by a car and died? Or went out and mated with a bunch of female cats, go Felv or FiV? He would be ruined as a stud cat in any case. They should count their lucky stars instead of being angry at the people that found their cat.

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I did state that its good he was found, and is healthy! and yes they should be very happy about that. BUT they also have every right in the world to be upset that their future of his breeding is ruined. I am sure not only did they invest money in it. They invested time in researching, and picking him out. I know its taken me years to decide on the kittens I am going to start with.

And I also speak from the expreince of having this done to a horse of mine as well. Not the same situation, as the horse was not stolen nor did it run away. It was a case of the barn manager making a BIG mistake. I had a young yearling colt, who was going to be my Stallion prospect. I spent 3 years looking, and waiting, and spent a boat load getting him. Lets not also place in the vet fees, and my time in training him.

Another girl had a colt that looked alot like my boy. QH, not Arabian but color and markings were similar. Body style diffrent and my boy was 1hh or so shorter than his boy. Anyways long story short. the other gal was going to get her horse gelded...barn manager was fetching for the vet..

She fetched MY BOY! and he was gelded! and I was spitting mad! As I should have been. he was still a great horse, I no longer own him. I dont need geldings in my barn. I dont like working with them other than training for other people, or children. I have mares, and have not yet replaced my stallion...this was 3 years ago. so I can understand why they would be mad. Happy that he is ok, YES they should be. I was happy my boy was ok. and he has a wonderfull new home. But i was still mad, and they do have a right to be upset. It sounds like they arent sueing...so whats done is done in the end. I didnt sue either, but I do not board there anylonger nor would I reccomend anyone to. and my boy does have a good home now. and hes a happy trail horse...a very prettty one none the less.

Originally Posted by ScamperFarms

I did state that its good he was found, and is healthy! and yes they should be very happy about that. BUT they also have every right in the world to be upset that their future of his breeding is ruined. I am sure not only did they invest money in it. They invested time in researching, and picking him out. I know its taken me years to decide on the kittens I am going to start with.

And I also speak from the expreince of having this done to a horse of mine as well. Not the same situation, as the horse was not stolen nor did it run away. It was a case of the barn manager making a BIG mistake. I had a young yearling colt, who was going to be my Stallion prospect. I spent 3 years looking, and waiting, and spent a boat load getting him. Lets not also place in the vet fees, and my time in training him.

Another girl had a colt that looked alot like my boy. QH, not Arabian but color and markings were similar. Body style diffrent and my boy was 1hh or so shorter than his boy. Anyways long story short. the other gal was going to get her horse gelded...barn manager was fetching for the vet..

She fetched MY BOY! and he was gelded! and I was spitting mad! As I should have been. he was still a great horse, I no longer own him. I dont need geldings in my barn. I dont like working with them other than training for other people, or children. I have mares, and have not yet replaced my stallion...this was 3 years ago. so I can understand why they would be mad. Happy that he is ok, YES they should be. I was happy my boy was ok. and he has a wonderfull new home. But i was still mad, and they do have a right to be upset. It sounds like they arent sueing...so whats done is done in the end. I didnt sue either, but I do not board there anylonger nor would I reccomend anyone to. and my boy does have a good home now. and hes a happy trail horse...a very prettty one none the less.

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That is quite a different situation with the horse. Clearly, the manager was negligent. It's quite different with a cat. If your cat had run off, would you expect someone to find him and care for him, and then return him to you in a perfect condition? If so, it's unrealistic expectations. If these people didn't take the cat it, something a lot worse could have happen to the cat than just neutering. Who would the owners blame then?

Originally Posted by elizwithcat

That is quite a different situation with the horse. Clearly, the manager was negligent. It's quite different with a cat. If your cat had run off, would you expect someone to find him and care for him, and then return him to you in a perfect condition? If so, it's unrealistic expectations. If these people didn't take the cat it, something a lot worse could have happen to the cat than just neutering. Who would the owners blame then?

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If someone took my cat in..would i expect him to be returned in perfect condition? Yes...if they didnt whats the point of them taking the cat in? Lets also keep in mind they only had this cat for what a day or two? Before getting him fixed...thats short time. In this state an owner has up to 30days to claim an animal before ownership is given to the "finder"..so by law, here anyways the finders could be in big trouble for doing what they did to the cat. Just like with the cat Athena brought home, I took her to the vet to make sure she wouldnt pass anything on to my cats but thats it. I wont do anything else,til 30days have passed. Period. I feed her, and do take care of her but no nail trimming, no medications like heart worm treatment. nothing. not til the days pass. And myself have taken in cats and returned them safe and sound, nothing asked. just here is your kitty lovely kitty it was. glad you found it! But hey thats just me. And I would expect the same.

Yes alot worse could have happened. if he hadnt have been found..but he WAS..so he should have been returned as found. we are not talking about months and months and months of no owner.

What an awful thing to do!

Originally Posted by ScamperFarms

If someone took my cat in..would i expect him to be returned in perfect condition? Yes...if they didnt whats the point of them taking the cat in? Lets also keep in mind they only had this cat for what a day or two? Before getting him fixed...thats short time. In this state an owner has up to 30days to claim an animal before ownership is given to the "finder"..so by law, here anyways the finders could be in big trouble for doing what they did to the cat. Just like with the cat Athena brought home, I took her to the vet to make sure she wouldnt pass anything on to my cats but thats it. I wont do anything else,til 30days have passed. Period. I feed her, and do take care of her but no nail trimming, no medications like heart worm treatment. nothing. not til the days pass. And myself have taken in cats and returned them safe and sound, nothing asked. just here is your kitty lovely kitty it was. glad you found it! But hey thats just me. And I would expect the same.

Yes alot worse could have happened. if he hadnt have been found..but he WAS..so he should have been returned as found. we are not talking about months and months and months of no owner.

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Why did they take the cat in? Probably so he wouldn't die. Personally, I find it hard to believe they accomplished the neutering in 2 days. I had to make an appointment with my vet a month in advance. Also, why didn't the onwers micro chipped the cat, the valuable future stud he was? If cat was micro chipped, presumably none of it would have happened.

Originally Posted by elizwithcat

Why did they take the cat in? Probably so he wouldn't die. Personally, I find it hard to believe they accomplished the neutering in 2 days. I had to make an appointment with my vet a month in advance. Also, why didn't the onwers micro chipped the cat, the valuable future stud he was? If cat was micro chipped, presumably none of it would have happened.

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i can get my kitty neutered the same day that i call. and what if the ower did microchip the cat and they were just too lazy to look.
I am sorry i think you keep on repeating your questions to scamperfarms when she has perfictly answered them for you.
And between the horse and the cat there isnt much of a difference, both people who did it were rude, and both negletful
and i purely doubt they went on a holiday for months and months.