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My female (3) and my male (1) aren't making any babies. They are purebred himalayans and I would like her to have a litter of kittens. I have not bred animals before, so i guess, i really don't know what I am doing. I have set her up with a stud before (twice) and nothing happened. Is there something wrong with her, or could it be the stud?
 

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i'm not a breeder but have read somewhere that male himalayans are quite slow at getting the hang of things and often dont reach sexual maturity until they are 19 months (please correct me if i am wrong- remember reading a post on here about a female himalayan that always ended up frustrated with a 'sticky' side. lol).

Have you witnessed them mating?
 

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Tanya, there are a couple of questions I feel compelled to ask you if you don't mind ...

Do you have registration papers for both of your cats? What registry holds them? When you purchased your cats, did you purchase them as pets or as breeders? Does the person you bought them from know you are trying to breed them and do you have their permission to do so?

If you do not have their registration papers and you purchased them as pets, then it would be legally, morally and ethically wrong for you to breed them.

If you ~do~ have their documents and you did purchase them with breeding rights, then have you done the necessary genetic research to ensure these two cats will produce healthy kittens?

My guess is that you haven't the legal right, the proper documentation or the breed-specific genetic knowledge to go forward with your plan to breed these cats. Going forward would place you in the category of a "backyard breeder" and the vast majority of reputable breeders and pet owners alike strongly discourage backyard breeding. Please carefully read the information contained within the following link and make an honest assessment as to which category describes you best. Hopefully this will provide some insight.

http://www.thecatsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52744

If you can honestly tell me that you have all you need to breed your cats, including the breed-specific research and facts, then I (as well as the others here) are happy to assist you. Otherwise, I cannot and willnot knowingly assist someone who is actively engaged in the opprobrious practice of backyard breeding.
 

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Originally Posted by maverick_kitten

i'm not a breeder but have read somewhere that male himalayans are quite slow at getting the hang of things and often dont reach sexual maturity until they are 19 months (please correct me if i am wrong- remember reading a post on here about a female himalayan that always ended up frustrated with a 'sticky' side. lol).

Have you witnessed them mating?
Just to clarify:

All the Persians I've known(many 100's) have not been slow in reaching sexual maturity.
 

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My male Kess is just starting to mature at 20 months old, And even now still won't attempt to breed my Jillian.
 

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Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

Just to clarify:

All the Persians I've known(many 100's) have not been slow in reaching sexual maturity.
i tried to find the thread i was talking about but i think it died in the crash
 

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Originally Posted by tanyadent

My female (3) and my male (1) aren't making any babies. They are purebred himalayans and I would like her to have a litter of kittens. I have not bred animals before, so i guess, i really don't know what I am doing. I have set her up with a stud before (twice) and nothing happened. Is there something wrong with her, or could it be the stud?
Hello there,
firstly all cats have the same way of breeding when it comes down to the studding. Your female does not have to be in season to get pregnant as the males sperm will trigger the females eggs to be released so its probably not your little bundle of fluff. I say this but i would suggest that you get her seen proffessionally as i can not obviously see over the net and she could have an underlying problem. Males can need to be as old as 18-24 months before they mature........this goes for most breeds. Do yourself a favour or two 1) watch the studding taking place. 2) get her checked asap. 3) ask to see proof that the stud has had litters in the past. 4) although people may say you do not have the legal right you do not have to get permission ! can you imagine if it was an accident ''excuse me do you mind if my cat has an accidental litter'' i don't think so, although it might be nice for you to make sure and ask them whether they had problems with the mother.
Good luck
 

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Originally Posted by playbunnyjinx

... although people may say you do not have the legal right you do not have to get permission ! can you imagine if it was an accident ''excuse me do you mind if my cat has an accidental litter'' i don't think so, although it might be nice for you to make sure ...
I strongly beg to differ ... if a cat was sold without breeding rights, then the new owner of that cat may NOT breed the cat PERIOD. If he or she does so, then they are in direct violation of their contract with the breeder and the breeder has legal recourse.
 

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Originally Posted by gayef

I strongly beg to differ ... if a cat was sold without breeding rights, then the new owner of that cat may NOT breed the cat PERIOD. If he or she does so, then they are in direct violation of their contract with the breeder and the breeder has legal recourse.
I agree the whole point i was making was about accidents and they do happen! as we all know and i did say that it would be an idea to ask the origanal breeder first as well. sorry if you didn't read or understand that properly.
 

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I would suggest that you ask the breeder of your female how the mother was - did she get pregnant the first time, second time or even later? Such things are very often passed on to the daughters.

I have a female that I mated this spring - no kittens. That was her first try. It was exactly the same with her mother - no kittens on first mating.

You are lucky to have both the female and the male in your home - just let them do their thing whenever she is in season. But keep a good eye on them so you will know when to expect the birth! Or should I say a good ear! When she screams and rolls on the floor the mating was a success (but there still may not be kittens).

Good luck!
 

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she might not be in heat. listen n see if she is making wierd noises if she is then she could be in heat. if she is in heat n still not mating then there could be something wrong with the male.
 
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