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post #1 of 15
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http://news.yahoo.com/fc/health/medical_marijuana I guess it was bound to happen at some point.
If it were up to me (Hey, I can dream, can't I?), I'd completely decriminalize marijuana use and ESPECIALLY in cases of medicinal use. I have friends who suffer from such painful diseases as fibromialgia and scholeraderma and marijuana is one of the few things that helps ease the pain.
I'm disappointed with the Supreme Court, but not at all surprised
post #2 of 15
It makes me angry that these people need Marijauna to feel better due to medical conditions, but the Supreme court doesn't seem to understand this. I hope that one day we will have compasionate judges.
post #3 of 15
Here's a longer article that talks more in-depth about the decision and implications: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/06/sc...ana/index.html
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Wow, I am SHOCKED that Clarence Thomas dissented!!!
Oh boy. So now an administration which is headed by a guy famous for his old cocaine habit can now come down harder on grandma for using pot to ease her MS pain. No shocker there; hypocricy at its best! That's compassionate conservatism y'all.
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My father-in-law smokes marijuana regularly to ease the pain and nausea from his chemotherapy. I can't believe he could go to jail for relieving his pain in the unknown amount of time he has left on this earth. My belief has always been that the government will never decriminalize pot because they have no way of regulating growth and taxing it. They won't legalize something they can't benefit from.
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I am not as educated as i should be on the issue. so i can not really comment on its use as a pain killer. But i suppose I can see a point, if they make it illegal for joe scmoe down the street to have it. it should be for everyone..

That being said. They could make it legal and regulated..if they wanted to..but evidently they do not want to.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the drug companies lobbied to influence the decision. If people can grow weed in their back yards instead of paying for costly prescriptions, the drug companies won't make as much money. The pharmaceutical industry is rampant with greed. Look at all their drug pushing TV commercials. "Ask your doctor about this, that and the other drug." Most of the time they don't even say what the drug is for. Yep, I'll bet the drug companies had something to do with outlawing marijuana for medicinal use.
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Originally Posted by consumercity
I have a sneaking suspicion that the drug companies lobbied to influence the decision. If people can grow weed in their back yards instead of paying for costly prescriptions, the drug companies won't make as much money. The pharmaceutical industry is rampant with greed. Look at all their drug pushing TV commercials. "Ask your doctor about this, that and the other drug." Most of the time they don't even say what the drug is for. Yep, I'll bet the drug companies had something to do with outlawing marijuana for medicinal use.
To that I would have to say BINGO!
post #9 of 15
I don't think lobby groups have much if any influence on the Supreme Court...or at least they aren't supposed to. The Justices are appointed for life, so they have no need for campaign contributions, which is the bait the lobbies use for politicians.

I did a lot of research on this subject while I was in college (I just loved giving the required speeches on why pot should be legalized at a conservative Christian college ). This ruling is actually just reconfirmation of the status quo. The states who filed suit were hoping for a change. On the topic of illegal drugs, the Feds have always had trump over states rights. On marijuana specifically, because the Feds have it classified as the same level of drug as cocaine and heroin they maintain that trump card. They could have always come in and busted a medical marijuana user on federal charges even if it were legal in the state.
post #10 of 15
Gotta love the Supreme Court....
I hope Justice Rehnquist doesn't need medical marijuana during his cancer treatment.

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Originally Posted by Kellyyfaber
My father-in-law smokes marijuana regularly to ease the pain and nausea from his chemotherapy. I can't believe he could go to jail for relieving his pain in the unknown amount of time he has left on this earth. My belief has always been that the government will never decriminalize pot because they have no way of regulating growth and taxing it. They won't legalize something they can't benefit from.
They COULD regulate it, the same way they do alcohol...but there's WAY too much money tied up in the "war on drugs", so that's not going to happen.

I say legalize it. I've been drunk and I've been stoned, and I never did anything ignorant while stoned. While drunk, on the other hand...I won't even go there. (I don't get drunk anymore...one beer is enough for me these days!! lol) IMO, drunks are MUCH more dangerous and volitile than stoners.
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Originally Posted by consumercity
I have a sneaking suspicion that the drug companies lobbied to influence the decision. If people can grow weed in their back yards instead of paying for costly prescriptions, the drug companies won't make as much money. The pharmaceutical industry is rampant with greed. Look at all their drug pushing TV commercials. "Ask your doctor about this, that and the other drug." Most of the time they don't even say what the drug is for. Yep, I'll bet the drug companies had something to do with outlawing marijuana for medicinal use.
No doubt they did.
In the immortal words of Josh Homme, "a new religion prescribed..."
I have a HUGE problem with the over-use of prescription drugs. It's bad enough to self-medicate, but it's even worse when a doctor is the one saying "use this drug to feel better."
Screw the drug companies!!
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Originally Posted by consumercity
I have a sneaking suspicion that the drug companies lobbied to influence the decision. If people can grow weed in their back yards instead of paying for costly prescriptions, the drug companies won't make as much money. The pharmaceutical industry is rampant with greed. Look at all their drug pushing TV commercials. "Ask your doctor about this, that and the other drug." Most of the time they don't even say what the drug is for. Yep, I'll bet the drug companies had something to do with outlawing marijuana for medicinal use.
I believe you're right!
The "funny" thing is, have you ever really listened to some of the side effects? They seem worse than the condition that's being treated! Oh, sure, we'll give you drugs for a panic disorder (just an example) but you won't feel like eating, you won't poop right, you'll have trouble sleeping, & forget about having any desire for sex..
Marijuana may make some feel funny, but it sure beats the heck out of the synthetic alternatives.
As our stressed society runs for a quick fix, the drug companies get richer & richer.
post #13 of 15
I, like most, can't make an informed statement on the topic, having never taken or had any desire to take any stimulant or intoxicant beyond the three times I got woozy on alcohol before I was 25, but I believe the thinking of "The Powers That Be", is that if legalized for a few, then the many who only want it for recreational use will get on the "need" bandwagon with impunity, and the general consensus of the governing bodies all around the country, (and I agree) is that we don't need another intoxicant, and from what I read, cannabis is only ONE of more than a few medications that are suitable for any of a number of ailments, so it isn't as if the ONLY medicine available is being witheld.

It's like in so many cases, a few must suffer for the good of the greater body of humanity.

Leonard
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by winwin
I, like most, can't make an informed statement on the topic, having never taken or had any desire to take any stimulant or intoxicant beyond the three times I got woozy on alcohol before I was 25, but I believe the thinking of "The Powers That Be", is that if legalized for a few, then the many who only want it for recreational use will get on the "need" bandwagon with impunity, and the general consensus of the governing bodies all around the country, (and I agree) is that we don't need another intoxicant, and from what I read, cannabis is only ONE of more than a few medications that are suitable for any of a number of ailments, so it isn't as if the ONLY medicine available is being witheld.

It's like in so many cases, a few must suffer for the good of the greater body of humanity.

Leonard
Hmmmm....
That's an interesting thought. But pot was around long before drugs like percoset, oxycontyn & whatever highly addictive things that chemists are whipping up these days. Pot is one of the ORIGINAL intoxicants.
I agree that pot is addictive, but not as destructive as some of those, & others ..after all, you don't often see what should be a pretty 19 year old girl walking the streets for pot with the same desperation that she would have for crack, it's just not the same. And I agree that alcohol is MUCH more destructive. I have yet to hear of a husband who comes home stoned & beats the snot out of his wife & kids..
If a person wants to try something, they are going to get it. It doesn't matter how old they are, how much it costs, what background they come from, etc..Whether it's legalized probably isn't a factor, 13 year olds are stealing Mom's Valiums & getting drunk all the time. Yet Valiums are a legally controlled substance, & so is alcohol.
This is a subject that could be debated endlessly..
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P.S. But I see what you're saying, Leonard. That alot of people will be coming up with overblown excuses to get it. I think they do that already. And the list of drugs is probably a mile long.
It's actually not easy to get marijuana pills- my Mom was prescribed some for her pain/lack of appetite (in California), & I remember her telling me she had to sign for them in triplicate, it was actually kind of a hassle..they made her feel funny & she ended up throwing them away!
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