I need help regarding Hannah (sorry long)

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As some of you know she is an outdoor kitty. Not because I tossed her out but because she can't stand anything living.

I adopted her at 6 months. She was indoors for a while but back in 1998 I was a bit uneducated about the hazzards of letting your cats out. Anyway I started letting her out. She was a very skittish cat from the beginning, afraid of every one. We had no other furbabies at the time so I had no idea how she would react around them.

When we moved to the country in 99 Hannah was in heaven but was still an indoor/outdoor cat. We then adopted Niki in 01 and that was the beginning of the end for Hannah. As I said, she's afraid of everything and would just run provoking Niki to take chase. Quki had shown up by then and did not run from Niki so I knew that she was good with cats as long as they didn't run. Hannah refused to come back inside and hasn't been back in since. At the time I felt that I can't let this cat stop me from my dream of saving as many rescues as possible. Was I wrong in feeling that way?

She hates the cats but will tolerate them. It's the dogs that drove her away and I have been feeling very guilty and selfish lately. She doesn't leave the property as the dogs can't get to her in the front. She comes for breakfast every morning and I talk to her and pet her.

I'm afraid if I force her to go in the house I'd never see her again, or she'll stop eating. She's been outside for 4 years and seems aclimated. I just don't know what to do.
 

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Originally Posted by dicknleah

As some of you know she is an outdoor kitty. Not because I tossed her out but because she can't stand anything living.

I adopted her at 6 months. She was indoors for a while but back in 1998 I was a bit uneducated about the hazzards of letting your cats out. Anyway I started letting her out. She was a very skittish cat from the beginning, afraid of every one. We had no other furbabies at the time so I had no idea how she would react around them.

When we moved to the country in 99 Hannah was in heaven but was still an indoor/outdoor cat. We then adopted Niki in 01 and that was the beginning of the end for Hannah. As I said, she's afraid of everything and would just run provoking Niki to take chase. Quki had shown up by then and did not run from Niki so I knew that she was good with cats as long as they didn't run. Hannah refused to come back inside and hasn't been back in since. At the time I felt that I can't let this cat stop me from my dream of saving as many rescues as possible. Was I wrong in feeling that way?

She hates the cats but will tolerate them. It's the dogs that drove her away and I have been feeling very guilty and selfish lately. She doesn't leave the property as the dogs can't get to her in the front. She comes for breakfast every morning and I talk to her and pet her.

I'm afraid if I force her to go in the house I'd never see her again, or she'll stop eating. She's been outside for 4 years and seems aclimated. I just don't know what to do.
I'm not sure if I fully understand. What are you dealing with? You think you might should make Hannah an indoor cat again, but you're not sure if you'd like to do that because she's become accustomed to living outdoors?

Clarify this for me. Why do you need to make her come in? I'm sorry, I must be having an off day here, but i'm interested in helping, so forgive me for being dense, today.
 
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Well lets see if I can make myself clearer. I want her to come back in but I'm afraid that she would be very unhappy doing so. I guess what started this is I mentioned that she was an outdoor cat on another forum and well.....I didn't get a very good reception. I know it's dangerous to leave kittys out all of the time but I feel with her it's too late to do anything about it.

I just wanted to know if anyone has had the same situation, if I'm wrong for leaving her outside all of the time and If I should try to get her to come back inside. She's almost 8 years old.

Did that make any sense?
 

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Leah, I have met you and seen your set up. Hannah is what is know as a pariah cat- I have two of those Noddy and Bailey. In a colony they would be living outside the colony, sneaking in when everyone else has eaten to get what they can, but perfectly happy to live the solitary life. I would keep her outdoors- she has already defied the odds by living 8 years. I know you feed her well and provide her with adequate shelter. Some cats just aren't happy sharing a home and living outside and as much as I know it distresses you (I would give anything if Noddy and Bailey would come inside to live) she is better off outside where she is in control-
 
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Thank you MA. I know you know of my living arangements but the problem is that no one else does. Those people on that other message board really hurt my feelings and I got defensive.

I will let Hannah live her life as she has been. We love her very much and want what's best for her.
 

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Is there any way you can give her a separate room, with access to the outdoors at all times? Where do you feed her?
Our last cat was a feral that lived in a colony for 8 years, and was afraid of people. Although we knew we'd never make an indoor cat out of him, we tried to get him to come inside, and gradually he did. I started to feed him in the garage, with the door left open for him, and once he grew accustomed to that, started to leave the window to our furnace/laundry room open, and feed him there. It was warm, and we put some cat beds in there, though he preferred sleeping on a thick towel in the washing machine. Eventually we put a cat flap in the window.
 
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She eats on our front porch which is somewhat enclosed and as for coaxing her in, as long as we have the dogs that will never happen. She's deathly afraid of them. She can get in the garage from time to time but I already have a cat living in there and she doesn't like her either.
 

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Originally Posted by dicknleah

Well lets see if I can make myself clearer. I want her to come back in but I'm afraid that she would be very unhappy doing so. I guess what started this is I mentioned that she was an outdoor cat on another forum and well.....I didn't get a very good reception. I know it's dangerous to leave kittys out all of the time but I feel with her it's too late to do anything about it.

I just wanted to know if anyone has had the same situation, if I'm wrong for leaving her outside all of the time and If I should try to get her to come back inside. She's almost 8 years old.

Did that make any sense?
yes, that made perfect sense, and I agree with Hissy. While she could be welcome to come in, I wouldn't force her to stay indoors. I know people's opinions on cats being outdoors, and I'm torn on the issue.

My mother in law to be has two cats who live with her and go out regularly. I'm very happy for them to be able to go out and I think it's wonderful. They have such a wonderful life. They get to lie on her lap and be petted, be fed treats and good healthy food, use the litter box and snooze and then they get to go out and patrol their area and hunt and thoroughly enjoy the outdoors.

My ideal would be to allow my cats to go out when they wanted. Unfortunately, I live in an area where they've never gone out and this dreadful apartment complex is full of stray cats with disease.

I say don't worry about what people are saying, if your Hanna has spent the last 8 years of her life enjoying the outdoors, good for her.
 

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Leah, the feelings of the people on that other message forum should have absolutely nothing to do with whatever decisions you make for your own cats. While it is nice to think they were probably only trying to tell you what was best for ~most~ cats, as Hissy points out, there are exceptions to each and every rule. Only you and your vet know what is best for YOUR cats in YOUR circumstances. Go with your gut and do what YOU know is best to ensure the continued happiness and well-being of your girl.

That now being said, people can be nasty. Real nasty. Don't let them get to you, hon. It isn't worth the energy you expend being upset about it.

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