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post #1 of 29
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at a Tyson chicken plant. Not for that faint of heart. Shows how some chickens are tortured in the slaughter process, how some workers abuse them. Once again dont go to this site if you don't like to watch this sort of thing but it goes to show some of what goes on in the food insustry.

http://www.torturedbytyson.com/
post #2 of 29
Knowing what we know about PETA, it was probably staged.
post #3 of 29
Thanks for the warning because i can't look
post #4 of 29
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Originally Posted by Big Bad Wolf
Knowing what we know about PETA, it was probably staged.
I don't know if even I'd go that far. PETA may be a bunch of hypocritical liars, but animal processing is REALLY nasty business even when handled "properly". I've no doubt they found sub-standard treatment of these animals. These are not animal lovers working these plants after all...
post #5 of 29
My question when these PETA videos appear is simply this: Why did they spend the time (most probably quite a while to get the most shocking film) filming this when it could have and should have been immediately reported as a violation of the law that governs these types of plants? I have no doubt that there are some sick jerks who work in these processing plants who will do this if they can...but that's IF THEY CAN! By law, they aren't allowed to. Most often, when the plant managers and corporate owners of the plants learn of this type of behavior, heads roll (and I don't mean the chickens!). But PETA never reports on the corrective actions taken, they just keep showing off the shock video as present day truth.
post #6 of 29
O_O




I watched it... gross... but it happens.... I for one do not eat veal or lamb. I feel that we get enough meat from grown animals, there are no reason to eat baby animals (ok except eggs)

We have a store called Neimuths here and I have taken two field trips there. They use the bolt method and make sure all animals are dead and feel as little pain as possible before they start processing. The whatever people who inspect meat send like four inspectors over every week to look at each animal, and if it is not ok they dont let it be killed. O_O Not all places are like this. I saw a video once of....... never mind I wont get into that. lets just say I didnt want to watch it and wasnt expecting it.
post #7 of 29
I support P.E.T.A. (People Eating Tasty Animals).

As Tyson goes through the courts to get permission to do the lethal injection to kill another chicken, the price of a chicken quarter set a new high at Sothbys of $25,000.00 paid by Bill Gaits.

The peta CEO watches and tries to figure what is wrong as his child dies because there was no medicine to save its life because of lack of animal lab research.

Leonard.
post #8 of 29
Amazing how PETA publishes such videos, spends so much time and effort into making this into a soapbox issue, all the while leaving the proper authorities un-notified.

They allow the issue to fester before reporting it, rather than reporting it from the start and preventing any undue suffering of animals.

PETA is no good.

Spotz
post #9 of 29
Hrm. these are also the people who's vp is a insulin dependant diabetic (who uses humulin, which is a synthetic of bovine insulin).. Who says that it's okay if she benefits from animal testing because the animals would want for her to fight for them.. but no one else should benefit from animal testing.
post #10 of 29
Wait a minute though... it's ok that chickens are slaughtered and mistreated because the ones who are talking about it are hypocrits?

I don't support PETA at all and I dislike shock videos. But I also know that Chickens and other poultry are not covered under the Humane Slaughter Act so they are not neccessarily treated humanely and it's not always illegal either.
post #11 of 29
I'm not even going to talk about what PETA thinks is humane...especially when it comes to feral cats.

Katie
post #12 of 29
Whether this is from PETA or not, I believe it. It must take a certain breed of person to work at places like this, killing for a living. No doubt there are many who make a sport of it. All slaughterhouses are awful-I remember driving by them in California, seeing barren, stinking fields full of cows, the air full of flies. I don't want to imagine what goes on inside if the outside looks like a living nightmare.
post #13 of 29
I will agree that while the video is disturbing. why didnt they just alert the authorities? why make such a stink and not tell the proper people? and slaughter isnt nice no matter how you put it. Yes it should be handled more humanely but lets face it....it is death no matter how you put it. and its not pretty.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms
I will agree that while the video is disturbing. why didnt they just alert the authorities? why make such a stink and not tell the proper people? and slaughter isnt nice no matter how you put it. Yes it should be handled more humanely but lets face it....it is death no matter how you put it. and its not pretty.
Well said.

Spotz
post #15 of 29
Who says they didn't tell the proper people. You and I know about it, so I assure you, the authorities do too.

Plus you need PROOF. Just pointing a finger is only going to get you so far.

PETA supporter or not, don't miss the forest for the trees.
post #16 of 29
There is a couple in my community that did attempt to turn in a large pig farming operation for pig sewage runoff going directly into our local resevoir- but no one believed them. They ended up going back and taking pictures because local authorities just weren't interested in it. Eventually the pig farmers did get in trouble, but only after a local couple had taken the matter into their own hands and documented the evidence through pictures and video. I have no idea if PETA informed the authorities about what was going on, but I have definitely seen authorities do nothing unless confronted with direct evidence.
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by eatrawfish
Wait a minute though... it's ok that chickens are slaughtered and mistreated because the ones who are talking about it are hypocrits?

I don't support PETA at all and I dislike shock videos. But I also know that Chickens and other poultry are not covered under the Humane Slaughter Act so they are not neccessarily treated humanely and it's not always illegal either.
post #18 of 29
And I have seen PETA let the situation fester to the point that there is no denying a problem exists before reporting that something is wrong.

I'm not saying that they didn't report the problem, but rather that they generally postpone alerting the proper authorities until after they have made their production out of the problem.

This is like a reporter wittnessing a person drowning but rather than trying to help the person, instead the reporter stands back and documents everything that is happening, and only after everything is done and the person has died, only then actually taking the initiative to alert the authorities of a problem.

Since the reporter ultimately notified the proper authorities, so I suppose they didn't do anything wrong right?

PETA is no different than the reporter in the example. Too little, too late, they don't care how they achieve their goal or how many animals must suffer in the process, so long as the get their report and moment in the spotlight.

Spotz
post #19 of 29
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Originally Posted by Spotz
And I have seen PETA let the situation fester to the point that there is no denying a problem exists before reporting that something is wrong.

I'm not saying that they didn't report the problem, but rather that they generally postpone alerting the proper authorities until after they have made their production out of the problem.

This is like a reporter wittnessing a person drowning but rather than trying to help the person, instead the reporter stands back and documents everything that is happening, and only after everything is done and the person has died, only then actually taking the initiative to alert the authorities of a problem.

Since the reporter ultimately notified the proper authorities, so I suppose they didn't do anything wrong right?

PETA is no different than the reporter in the example. Too little, too late, they don't care how they achieve their goal or how many animals must suffer in the process, so long as the get their report and moment in the spotlight.

Spotz
I agree that 2 wrongs don't make a right...just trying to keep the focus on the food industry. A LOT has already been said about PETA in other threads.
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by Spotz
Well said.

Spotz

Thank you. I guess. I may seem uncareing saying it that way. But. Death in any light is not pretty, never has been and never will be. Could it be more humane than what they are doing in the video? Sure it could. But it will never be pretty.

And I read the article. with the video. They were pulling the heads because the slicer didnt remove them all the way. not to sound graphic, and although the act of doing it by hand is, gross, but is it not better to have the animal completely dead than let it...suffer with a partial cut head? I dont know. I still stand by death is still death and its still never going to be pretty.
post #21 of 29
I agree that death is death to a certain extent.

But you can truly make and animals life and death miserable. Personally because I can afford to and it is available to me I try buy organic/cruelty free items. It is more expensive and I can't always verify that they are as good as they claim.

Furthermore, I do doubt that the way a chickens head is cut off makes much difference health wise for eating, but there are other corners cut and inhumane practices that DO make eating the animal unhealthy. It's why we don't like to feed our cat by-products or non-organic meat.
post #22 of 29
It does remind me of the anti-abortion groups showing graphic images and the same questions pop up in my mind- like with the 'silent scream' video. Why didn't the person filming it try to stop it if they were so opposed to it? I can't imagine Tyson as a whole thinking it's a jolly good time to torture chickens, sort of like with the Iams situation. Is it truely systematic, or isolated?
post #23 of 29
We have a Tyson plant nearby and they are always in the news for something or another.

I started to watch this video and was sickened to the point I had to stop it after a few seconds.
I don't know what the answer is, how to change this.
I eat chicken and don't think about how they are "processed".
It's the same as pigs or cows. I don't know how it happens and
I guess I really DO NOT want to know.
post #24 of 29
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Originally Posted by pjk5900
I eat chicken and don't think about how they are "processed".
It's the same as pigs or cows. I don't know how it happens and
I guess I really DO NOT want to know.
I will shamefully admit that I'm with you on those points. If people had to slaughter all of the meat they ate, there would be a lot more vegetarians in the world. Death is not a pretty thing.
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by eatrawfish
I agree that death is death to a certain extent.

But you can truly make and animals life and death miserable. Personally because I can afford to and it is available to me I try buy organic/cruelty free items. It is more expensive and I can't always verify that they are as good as they claim.

Furthermore, I do doubt that the way a chickens head is cut off makes much difference health wise for eating, but there are other corners cut and inhumane practices that DO make eating the animal unhealthy. It's why we don't like to feed our cat by-products or non-organic meat.

All my meat comes from the farm. so i know how it was raised and how it was killed. I have that luxury thanks to my uncle, and a deep freezer. So i do my part on that end.
post #26 of 29
I'm also pretty lucky in that regard. Since I live in Indiana we do have farmers that sell meat from chickens, cows, and pigs who have been treated humanely and who support responsible, organic farming. Sure it's more expensive, but I like knowing that I can buy chicken from a farm in New Paris, OH or that my fiancee can get his beef from cows that have names and are for the most part loved. Sure it's kind of weird having Cletus the cow in our freezer, but at least I know he was fed what cows are supposed to eat, allowed plenty of natural room to roam, and was put down in a humane way. I try not to buy chicken from major producers like Tyson. Being vegetarian for 7 years still has it's influence on me. Although I now eat poultry and fish and am no longer veggie I certainly don't want those chickens and tilapias to be treated horribly.
post #27 of 29
If anyone does wish to buy locally and organically this website is a great resource and will show you where to go-

http://www.localharvest.org/

I think supporting local farmers is the best possible way to combat this kind of cruelty, as well as being a great way to support the livelyhood of hardworking people in your community.
post #28 of 29
esrgirl...I agree with you. Thanks for the link.
post #29 of 29
Thanks for the link too! I never knew about a lot of these places...
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