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post #1 of 22
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We had a report of a sexual assault on Hunter Army Airfield (where I work) a few weeks ago, causing everyone to worry. Everyone knows sexual assault is something to take seriously.
Well, last week the girl who reported the assault admitted that she made it all up so that her husband (who is serving in Iraq now) could be sent home to her now. So she wasted the time of law enforcement, SANEs, Rape Crisis volunteers, etc. to support her lie. I was SO irate when I found this out I believe people that report a false rape should get mandatory jail time only because it harms the credibility of every other TRUE rape victim who gathers up the strength to report the crime.
So, ya'll know I work with domestic violence/sexual assault victims. Well, this morning we get in a new volunteer who says she will be volunteering with my office (Army Community Service) for 40 hours. Guess who our newest "helper" is? Yup, that's right- the lying, non-rape victim. So not only did she get off with a VERY VERY VERY minor slap on the wrist (if that), but she is working in a place that serves true sexual assault victims.
Where on earth does that seem right????
post #2 of 22
umm, that is kinda bizarre.

i actually am really not surprised though that the military did nothing more about it.

however i do agree with about somekind of repremand, not jail time though.... maybe community service hours...

as for her volunteering with you, you never know, she might be good at it
post #3 of 22
I just hope that when she sees what REAL victims have to go through, she will realize how horrible it was to make the false claim.

But you're so right...people who make false claims make it that much harder for real victims to come forward. For some reason, people remember the false claims, and are quite quick to assume that most of the claims are bogus. Harsher punishment should definitely be the norm - especially on a military base!!
post #4 of 22
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Originally Posted by valanhb
I just hope that when she sees what REAL victims have to go through, she will realize how horrible it was to make the false claim.

But you're so right...people who make false claims make it that much harder for real victims to come forward. For some reason, people remember the false claims, and are quite quick to assume that most of the claims are bogus. Harsher punishment should definitely be the norm - especially on a military base!!
See, I'm not sure if it was the military or a civilian court that punished her....since she's a civilian, I'm not sure how their laws apply to her. Regardless though, she got off far too easily. She and people like her are the very reason why so many sexual assault or domestic violence victims are afraid to step forward. Really tragic all-around
post #5 of 22
I don't know how it works there but, where I live, false reporting is a taken seriously. If convicted, one gets jail time AND a hefty fine. In addition, it would seem that the falsely accused person could have grounds for a civil suit. This woman needs to be shown the error of her ways.
post #6 of 22
Wow. Okay... I get really really irritated when people LIE to get their husbands home...

But kudos to you for working the job that you do.

As for the woman who lied, karma is a B.
post #7 of 22
Who on earth gave her the position?, and do they know what she did?

I honestly wouldn't have the brass neck to accept that job after what she's done?!.
post #8 of 22
she is dumb
post #9 of 22
That's awful! I think she too ought to get something out of it maybe spend a week with Rape survivors, so maybe she would never do it again.
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by MyFirstRagdoll
That's awful! I think she too ought to get something out of it maybe spend a week with Rape survivors, so maybe she would never do it again.
That's not a bad idea in principle but don't you think that anyone who's been attacked has suffered enough already?

Sue
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by rosiemac
Who on earth gave her the position?, and do they know what she did?

I honestly wouldn't have the brass neck to accept that job after what she's done?!.

Anyone who would make up a story like that has psychological issues. I would not give her access to any victims...ever. If she is only fulfilling community service time, she probably has no real interest in helping others anyway. She can serve her 40 hours cleaning the toilet IMO.
post #12 of 22
You're right, every time someone reports a false rape or false domestic violence, those who have actually truly experienced abuse are afraid to come forward. They won't be taken seriously because of all the brats to cry wolf and then laugh it off.

This girl is a brat, I say write her a letter or sit her down and talk with her. Tell her the profound effects that domestic violence, angry men and rape have on women. Let her see the words written by women who HAVE been abused. Just to have her read it, maybe she will absorb it.

She's probably had a very cushy life to lie about something like this. Perhaps since she will be volunteering for people who have NOT had such a cushy life and have had their self-esteems ripped away by the very thing she lied about, she will see the light.

And yes, make her scrub toilets, too. The mere fact she wanted to pull her hubs away from fighting shows she's a coward to begin with. He's there for a reason, whether she likes it or not, and her attempt to draw him home is a slap in the face to women who have been abused!!!
post #13 of 22
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Fortunately, she is being put on serious work detail IF she shows up today (she didn't arrive when she was supposed to; she is not taking this seriously at all). Bradley said he'd bring his mom's dogs out to our building and have then do #2 all over just so that we could make her shovel it up
But seriously, I hope carma is a B for her Beth! I'm afraid to go near her b/c all I want to do is YELL at her, but I'm pretty sure my boss doesn't want me bringing it up to her that I know. I AM, however, going to act like I don't know why she's there and start talking about false reports and how seriously it affects true victims (you know, just to make conversation with our darling volunteer ). That way, I can't get in trouble for singling her out (oh how I wish I could though!), but at least I can try to get a message across to her.
I do feel that she should get serious jail time AND have to pay the law enforcement and health agencies whatever it cost them to use up all that manpower for the last 2 weeks about the compelte and utter seriousness and SELFISHNESS of her crime.
Ugh......I'm gonna go find a floor for her to scrub or some roach droppings for her to pick up....
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by ugaimes
Fortunately, she is being put on serious work detail IF she shows up today (she didn't arrive when she was supposed to; she is not taking this seriously at all). Bradley said he'd bring his mom's dogs out to our building and have then do #2 all over just so that we could make her shovel it up
But seriously, I hope carma is a B for her Beth! I'm afraid to go near her b/c all I want to do is YELL at her, but I'm pretty sure my boss doesn't want me bringing it up to her that I know. I AM, however, going to act like I don't know why she's there and start talking about false reports and how seriously it affects true victims (you know, just to make conversation with our darling volunteer ). That way, I can't get in trouble for singling her out (oh how I wish I could though!), but at least I can try to get a message across to her.
I do feel that she should get serious jail time AND have to pay the law enforcement and health agencies whatever it cost them to use up all that manpower for the last 2 weeks about the compelte and utter seriousness and SELFISHNESS of her crime.
Ugh......I'm gonna go find a floor for her to scrub or some roach droppings for her to pick up....

You know what blows me away is it's hard enough to deal with problems you can't see heading your way, but this is a problem you CAN see. She at the very least needs to be lectured too about what she did.
post #15 of 22
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You ain't kidding Marge!!!
post #16 of 22

I can only suppose that the judge felt that she'd recognize the seriousness of her crime if confronted with real victims.
Somehow that seems to fit into the same category as the kid found guilty of cruelty to animals being assigned 100 hours of community service at the local animal shelter.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by jcat

I can only suppose that the judge felt that she'd recognize the seriousness of her crime if confronted with real victims.
Somehow that seems to fit into the same category as the kid found guilty of cruelty to animals being assigned 100 hours of community service at the local animal shelter.
I see the reasoning (I guess) but I'd rather spare the SA victims and animals!!!!
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by ugaimes
I see the reasoning (I guess) but I'd rather spare the SA victims and animals!!!!
I see the logic too, but it puts her rehab on your backs in a sense. I mean is she really going to be a help to you? Maybe she will though. Personally if I were you I would make her do everything you don't want, like little housekeeping things like copying or something.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by Marge
I see the logic too, but it puts her rehab on your backs in a sense. I mean is she really going to be a help to you? Maybe she will though. Personally if I were you I would make her do everything you don't want, like little housekeeping things like copying or something.
I have to disagree. Let her see the real horror of rape/domestic abuse. Making her do the housekeeping stuff just gives her an easy punishment. It lets her avoid seeing the truth. Now, that would be a seriously inappropriate punishment.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Sweets
I have to disagree. Let her see the real horror of rape/domestic abuse. Making her do the housekeeping stuff just gives her an easy punishment. It lets her avoid seeing the truth. Now, that would be a seriously inappropriate punishment.
She should learn about the horror of rape/sexual abuse. BUT, my clients' confidentiality is my top priority, so I will make sure that turd never meets them or sits in on a session!!!
Hehe Marge....my office is in a corner of the building prone to bugs....there are a couple of dead bugs on the high ledge of my office's window that I'm too grossed out to touch....so guess what she's cleaning up next time she comes to work???
post #21 of 22
Ack! How can you stand being in the same building with such a person?! I think she should be subjected to something much worse that a little community service. I hope the guy she falsely accused sues her for everything she might ever have.
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by krazy kat2
Ack! How can you stand being in the same building with such a person?! I think she should be subjected to something much worse that a little community service. I hope the guy she falsely accused sues her for everything she might ever have.
She claimed a stranger abducted her....so no lawsuits unfortunately (but fortunate that no one was fingered!)
We had a kids day all day today- LOTS of intensive labor on our parts: moving tables and chairs, running games, making 400 hot dogs, etc. Let me just say: WE PUT THAT CHICK TO WORK!!!
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