this is getting out of control

I would put her in a small area (like a large dog kennel or a bathroom) like your friend suggested. Keep the litterbox very clean continue to use the cat attract and the feliway wouldn't hurt either. Basically re-train her that her litterbox is the place to go. If you are not up to that then I would put several litterboxes through out the house where she is inclined to pee, if it is not in a good spot to put a litterbox then lay down a section of aluminum foil over that spot (tape the corners so it stays in that spot and is not easily moved) and have a litterbox close to that area.

She is confined to my daughter's bedroom. That's where all her stuff is and that's where she sleeps at nite. During the day she is allowed to wander wherever she wants but at nite she stays with my daughter in her room.... and the weirdest thing is that's the only place she pees is in her room???????????? Why??????????

Ok first of all you need to calm down. She will feed on your anxiety and your stress and it will make whatever is wrong worse. I don't know what you do when she has these accidents, but if you are punishing her in anyway, I would urge you to stop. Sometimes declawed cats have issues after their operation. It could be the litter is bothering her. if you use clumping litter, it could be causing little balls of litter to form under her pads. She could have an infection at one of the sites of the declawing. Did the vet check his work carefully? I would toss out any clay litter you are using right now, and look for something that is softer on her feet. My friend who rescues only declawed cats uses the follwing materials in her litter pans:

rabbit pellets-dried beans-recycled newspaper- recycled cardboard-packing peanuts- and sawdust- and any of the green litters.

UTI's can reoccur, they are generally caused by stress and a declawing is very stressful (and unnecessary) for kitties. You need to stop pushing her into the litter pan, you are going to create an aggression mode in her if you keep trying to make her do what you want her to do instead of trying to find out why she is doing this. Cats are fastidious creatures, they don't like being dirty, and when they pee and poop out of the box there is always a reason. Sometimes it is health, othertimes it is environment, or behaviorial.

I have never written a negative post like this before, but I am feeling angry & sad for your innocent kitty.

This is not advice but a question.

Why did you decide to declaw your cat? It is illegal in some states & should be everywhere. To declaw a cat is a decision for the benefit of you ... not your cat.

Now...because it has not worked out, your husband wants to "get rid of her." That is most likely a death sentence for your innocent furbaby who had done nothing wrong except to suffer? I feel so sad for your furbaby.

If you decide to "get rid of her"... please do everythng you can to find a loving rescue person, who will give her the love and care she needs.

I agree with Yosemite...your vet should be declawed for agreeing to do the surgery, let alone doing it along with spaying.

This is an edit: Sorry to sound so harsh. I hope that you did not understand how cruel declawing was, when you decided to do it. You must feel some compassion for your kitty or you would not have come to TCS for help. Please understand ... it is your obligation, if you chose not to keep your baby because of behavior problems, to find a loving home where she will get the care that she needs.

[i have a male cat that just got fixed about 2 weeks ago and before he went in he was not using the litter box for a while and going around the house he didn't have any kind of infection i took him to the vet but they thought that fixing him might help. now that he is fixed he is still going around the house and i don't have any clue as to why or how to fix the problem i have tried everything that i thought might work, but he doesn't care that he is getting yelled at or anything this behaviour just keeps on repaeting itself.i love him i don't want to get ride of him but i have had it. i hate coming home from work and spending an hour cleaning up after him. does anyone have any idea's as to how to fix this problem.
thanx

Is the litter clean. Have you tried different litters, relocated the litter box, used more than one box in different locations at the same time. Many cats do not like scented litter, the texture may be wrong for your kitty & the location might not be good for your kitty. They need to feel safe when they go. Learn about cat litter habits.

With patience & knowledge you can solve the problem. Use the search tool in this thread to learn more. Use the net to educate yourself. Your furbaby is telling something about the litter, the box, the location or his health. Find out what the problem is & fix it. Then you will have a loving companion.

Read back through this whole thread and take those suggestions because they are all very good, and to save us all the time to repeat it all. Also DON'T YELL AT YOUR CAT!! He isn't doing it to annoy you, there is a reason, he may be sick, in pain, have a UTI, etc...


And Ladie7...
xocats is right, you can't do something so traumatic to an animal and expect them to just happily go on with their lives. You had her claws ripped out, she needs time to adjust and get used to the unnaturalness of having no claws. She also has to learn that she can no longer stretch and scratch like a cat should. Give her a break. Keep her confined to a small place and retrain her with a new box and litter. She is probably in pain walking on the scoopable litter, or even on unscoopable. Like walking on gravel with blisters on your feet.

Seriously, try this:
Get a few brand new litterboxes (they are cheap) and put some unscoopable litter in one, shredded newspaper in another, and maybe something completely different in another (someone suggested rabbit pellets, or they sell Yesterdays News Litter and Feline Pine which turns into sawdust when peed on and there is very little odor) Give her some choices. Don't give up on her. You did something horrible to her for your convienence (sorry but that's the truth), and she has to adjust. Please be patient. She is not doing this on purpose, she doesn't know what happened or why you did this to her. Try that, at least offer shredded newspaper if you haven't already, it is softer on her extremely sensitive paws.

Soory it looks like it has been awhile since you did the declawing, I didn't realize this thread went back 3 pages. Could she perhaps have another UTI? Have you taken her back to the vet lately? We usually put cats with UTI's on clavamox so maybe take her back and ask for something a little stronger. Once a cat gets a UTI it often is reoccurring. Any little bit of stress can bring it on again. Stress could be moving your furniture around and since you spayed and declawed her that is like 100x the stress. She could have another UTI. If you haven't lately, take her back to the vet, tell him all of the things you have tried.

Oh and by the way, what do you feed her? Buy her a pet store brand of good quality food like Nutro which has a kind that is specifically for UTI health. If that is what she has. Good luck...

I'm so sorry everyone feels so against getting cats declawed. I never owned a cat before... this is our first and it's my daughter's cat. All my friends that have cats said get her declawed. All of their cats are declawed... so not knowing much about cats.... I did it. Yes.... now I am sorry that I did it because if I would have known it would have caused her this trauma I wouldn't have done it.... but like I said.... all my friend's cats are declawed so I thought it was the right thing to do. So, I changed the litterbox and the litter. She HATES shredded paper, she didn't like the Yesterday's News, I think it was too big and hard for her, and she really disliked any pellet type litter, so I bought the smallest litter and Cat Attract and starting using that. YES I did take her to the vet, he said there is no UTI, he believes its more behavioral than anything. He tried giving her some kitty prozac but she wouldn't take it so I'm not giving it to her. I got that feliaway spray and it seems to be helping. She is much calmer and I don't think she has been wetting outside the box. I haven't stepped in any wet spots and their has been clumps in her litter so she is using it some. Now I just have to figure out how to get the smell completely out of the room!!! I bought the enzymatic cleaner but still had to cut the carpet out and washed the floor underneath and sealed it with KILTZ but it still smells to me. So there must be another spot somewhere. But I will find it and take care of it. Thanks for all the feedback... both harsh and helpful it really helped alot. I'm so glad this forum is available because it really helps out alot.

Ladie7,
I would like to apologize for posting such a harsh message before I knew the background of why you got your baby declawed. Thank you for explaining that you did not know how tramatic declawing is on a kitty. You are not alone. I hope that information is spreading about why it is not a good choice. I admire you for having the courage to come back to TCS & explain what happened.

Because your vet ruled out health problems, Roxxie has probably been freaked out from the psychological & physicial trauma that she experienced...but it sounds like she is beginning to calm down. As frustrated as you were, you did not give up on her. You kept looking for solutions to stop her negative behavior & it looks like you are beginning to succeed.

Please stay with us at TCS. We share our experiences, good & bad. Also, check out the other forums on TCS. There is a lot of laughter here too. I would love to see pictures of Roxxie. You can post them in the Fur Pictures Only area.

Do not hesitate to ask questions. We all need help in raising our amazing furbabies. There is usually someone who has had a similar experience or who can guide you to information where you might find solutions.

I am so glad that things are improving for you & little Roxxie.

Originally Posted by Ladie7

Roxxie has been spayed. I feel really sorry for her. She seems so sad. I also had her declawed at the same time. The vet said that it would be better to do it all at once... so I did. I just feel bad for her cuz she seems sore. How long do I have to use paper in her litter box? Cuz she doesn't like the paper.

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Declawing can cause litterbox problems by itself, because their paws hurt right after it when they use a litterbox, so they think it's litterbox's fault. So, that only aggravated your cat's problem of not using the litterbox. My vets also asked me if I want to have my cats declawed-they offer a package deal. I have no idea why the vets do that without explaining the alternative to people, or talking about side effects, except they want to make money. The same with the Science Diet. The only food vets recommend, even though it has by-products in it, so how can it be good? But if you listen to vets, it's the cure for all diseases out there.

Not everyone here is against declawing, all of mine are declawed, with no ill effects. Just don't give up on her, it will all work out in the end as long as you keep trying.

I hope you know that you cannot let your cat outside now that she is declawed as she has no defense.

I know I can't let her out. The only time she is out is when she is in the yard with me. She is still peeing in the house. I tore carpet out, scrubbed floors with enzymatic cleaner, sealed it with KILTZ and it still smells and she is still peeing. I have read every thread, she doesn't like newspaper in her box, I bought yesterday's news .... she hated that, I bought 3 different litters including cat attract, bought 2 different boxes, 1 with a lid 1 without.... still no change. I am taking her to the vet tomorrow AGAIN to see if there is any medical problems.... I don't know what else to do. My husband is getting very disgusted.... I tried the Nature's remedy enzymatic cleaner and it still smells... any other suggestions for cleaners?????????????

Your kitty is feeling your stress. It sounds as though she is experiencing to many changes, to fast.

Cats need consistancy. Everything in her world keeps changing. If I were her, I would really feel confused. "Where do I pee" Where do I poop? Nothing is ever the same. I don't know what I am supposed to do?"

I hope that you & your husband can calm down & find a way to be more objective. Have you confined her to a room for a few days, like a bathroom, a place without carpet were she can settle down, have peace & quiet with her litter box? You could go in the room, spend time with her, give her quiet love, then leave her in peace. If you do this ... put her food & water away from her litter, but in the same room. Have a radio playing quiet music so that she does not hear what is going on in the rest of you house so vividly. Add some clothes with your scent on them, for her to use as a bed. Also, I think that taking her outside right now just confuses the situation.

I had a neighbor who had the same problem. She got so fed up that she opened her patio door, let her cat out ( she lived in a third story apartment) closed the patio door & did not open it until her beautiful innocent kitty vanished forever. I did not know about this until after it happened. She did not even feel bad about what she did. She thought it was the kitty's fault. I never spoke to her again. She is dead now. I am not proud of this, but I am not sorry that she is gone.

I think that you are feeling somewhat pushed by your husband's major frustration. If this does not resolve soon, & you cannot deal with this problem any longer, you might need to give her up for adoption. Please...take the time to find a reacue specialist who fully understands what she has gone through & what her current problems are, so that she has the best chance to recover. Remember, cats do not want to go outside of their litter box.
Good luck for her sake & yours.

I've heard that white vinegar is really good for getting smells out, as are coffee grounds (but be careful, because the grounds aren't good for cats so I wouldn't recommend it). Its important to get the smells out, because she'll be attracted to using the same areas because they already smell like "toilet" to her. I've also heard it suggested that when she uses the bathroom on the carpet, you should place the paper towels you use to clean the toilet into her litter box so that she comes to associate it as the toilet place.

I'm glad you realize now how traumatic declawing a cat can be, and I hope you'll consider alternatives if you ever get another cat. Declawing does more than just remove the claws - it actually amputates the first joint on the "finger", just as your nails are attached to your first joint. Especially with a kitten who you can get used to it, you can trim their nails quite easily - there are other threads on here about that. Plus, I haven't used them nor do I know anyone who has, but maybe someone here can recommend the new SoftPaws caps that go right over a cat's claws so they don't scratch things up.

Best of luck dealing with your poor baby's problems, I hope she gets better soon!

Have you tried using different types of litter to see which one she takes to best? Some cats perfer a certain type of litter. They don't like certain kinds for some reason. She also may require that it be very very clean. I know it's time to change the litter when Nunny poops just outside the box. He wants to go in there, but if I haven't kept it clean enough, he doesn't want anything to do with it, so he at least tries to get as close as possible to the box for me.

I'm so sorry to hear this, I read your other thread about putting her in a cage.

My parents have a cat that we found abandond and we had to bottle feed. He's never been and outdoor cat since they found him but that cat flat refuses to crap in his litter box. My dad is cleaning up a pile of poop a couple times every day.

I got the cage idea from this forum. And it seems to be working so far. She actually seems like she likes it. She is much more calm when she is in there. I think she feels it's her own safe place. It's hopefully not going to be forever as I want her to be a house cat.....

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I got the cage idea from this forum. And it seems to be working so far. She actually seems like she likes it. She is much more calm when she is in there. I think she feels it's her own safe place. It's hopefully not going to be forever as I want her to be a house cat.....

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Have you tried world best litter , i use chn feed which is similiar it smeell s good to my dog.. and both cats like it ..