dry food?

anybody using this or any knowledge about this product?http://www.healthypetnet.com/home.asp?realname=10040541

Originally Posted by HUNTER

anybody using this or any knowledge about this product?http://www.healthypetnet.com/home.asp?realname=10040541

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Lifeâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s Abundance Premium Health Food for Cats is based on a variety of superior whole food ingredients designed to provide 100% complete nutrition in accordance with AAFCO feeding protocols and contains:
CATS

SYSTEMS
FOOD
TREATS
SUPPLEMENTS
PET CARE
ALL PRODUCTS
.No corn or wheat
.No dairy
.No by-products
.No artificial colors or flavors
.No chemical preservatives added
.High quality chicken meal, egg, chicken liver meal,
herring meal and turkey meal, all derived from
human-grade processing plants
.Nutrient dense with vitamins, minerals, fats,
essential fatty acid and taurine
.Powerful antioxidants from patented grape seed
extract process
.Probiotics for a healthy digestive tract
.Highly digestible

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6.6 lb. bag
Retail: $14.95
Preferred Customer:
$12.69

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16.5 lb. bag
Retail: $34.95
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INGREDIENTS: Chicken Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E)), Dried Beet Pulp, Egg Product, Herring Meal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Chicken Liver Meal, Flax Seed Meal, Fish Oil, Turkey Meal, Lecithin, Potassium Chloride, Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, Bifido bacterium bifidium fermentation product, Streptococcus faecium fermentation product, Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, Alfalfa Sprouts, Wheat Grass, D/L Methionine, L-Lysine, Taurine, Calcium Carbonate, Ascorbic Acid, Grape Seed Extract, Rosemary, Vitamin E Supple-ment, Niacin Supplement, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Citric Acid, Menadione Dimethylpyrimidinol Bisulfate (Source of Vitamin K Activity), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Iodate.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
Crude Protein, not less than .... 32.0%
Crude Fat, not less than ......... 21.0%
Crude Fiber, not more than ..... 3.0%
Moisture, not more than .......... 10.0%
Ash, not more than ................. 6.5

it looks fine but I think you can get similiar at the local pet store

hey thanks, what would be the similar product at the pet store? right now i'm using iams dry.

check out nutro , natural balance , innova these are found at many stores and are natural

Dont take this the wrong way but iams is like all the other grocery foods

i know iams is not a quality food, i'll check out nutro.

hey I gave my 16 yr old friskies for nearly 14 of her years since I didnt know")

Another one to consider is California Natural Chicken and Rice... here is the ingredients list:
Chicken
Chicken Meal
Ground Brown Rice
Chicken Fat
Sunflower Oil
Flaxseed
Vitamins/Minerals
Taurine
click here for the information page for this food.

Chicken Soup for the Cat Lovers Soul is another great one, in My Opinon.

california natural sounds good, what about wellness, is this a natural food as well?

Originally Posted by HUNTER

california natural sounds good, what about wellness, is this a natural food as well?

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It is, my only concern with Wellness is their use of garlic, which can cause Heinz Body Anemia - just like onions. Onions, garlic and chives are all in the same family....but cats have a very individual sensitivity to garlic (the dose that is toxic varies is another way to say it) - some need very little to become ill, some can handle it for a while. It is a topic that gets debated, and there are several reputable food companies that insist garlic has health benefits for cats as it does for humans, plus some supplements that continue to use it.

But, many disagree. It does not matter the form of the garlic - dry, fresh, powder, special aged...it still has this russian roulette potential, and I won't use it.

Here are some articles on the topic:
Feline Future on garlic
and vet article

Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

It is, my only concern with Wellness is their use of garlic, which can cause Heinz Body Anemia - just like onions. Onions, garlic and chives are all in the same family....but cats have a very individual sensitivity to garlic (the dose that is toxic varies is another way to say it) - some need very little to become ill, some can handle it for a while. It is a topic that gets debated, and there are several reputable food companies that insist garlic has health benefits for cats as it does for humans, plus some supplements that continue to use it.

But, many disagree. It does not matter the form of the garlic - dry, fresh, powder, special aged...it still has this russian roulette potential, and I won't use it.

Here are some articles on the topic:
Feline Future on garlic
and vet article

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What about extract and flavor.. Guess who found these in the food in the cabinet

Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

Another one to consider is California Natural Chicken and Rice... here is the ingredients list:
Chicken
Chicken Meal
Ground Brown Rice
Chicken Fat
Sunflower Oil
Flaxseed
Vitamins/Minerals
Taurine
click here for the information page for this food.

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I like this too , just I would have to go four or five towns over to get it

Originally Posted by sharky

What about extract and flavor.. Guess who found these in the food in the cabinet

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I am not sure about flavor..if it doesn't actually have any real garlic in it,(i.e. like artificial vanilla flavor) it would be okay...extract would be still contain real garlic (i.e. real vanilla extract, still contains real vanilla, albeit diluted) that I worry about.

Originally Posted by Pat & Alix

I am not sure about flavor..if it doesn't actually have any real garlic in it,(i.e. like artificial vanilla flavor) it would be okay...extract would be still contain real garlic (i.e. real vanilla extract, still contains real vanilla, albeit diluted) that I worry about.

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Thank you Zoey dry food okay but new multi isnt

that's very informative on the garlic issue, i narrowed my choices and i'm going with INNOVA EVO, this will suit my feeding method because i feed raw as well and this one claims to be better in conjunction with raw food, what do you think of the ingredients?
http://www.naturapet.com/display.php...pxsl=//product[@id='1255']

Originally Posted by HUNTER

anybody using this or any knowledge about this product?http://www.healthypetnet.com/home.asp?realname=10040541

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Dammit! I just typed up this huge reply to you but this forum said I wasn't logged in and lost my post.

I can't bear to retype all that over again so here's the abbreviated version:

1. It's the most incredible food I ever used
2. It made a difference in my cat in a matter of days
3. By the time they add taxes and shipping it becomes a big ripoff
4. I'm using Natural Balance instead
5. You can get Natural Balance at the local PetCo

By the way, I read on these boards that Natural Balance has a high phosphorus content compared to other brands (1.60%). I guess that is a problem with cats with chronic renal failure. Hopefully it's not a problem for cats, period. Maybe others can shed some light on this.

Originally Posted by HUNTER

that's very informative on the garlic issue, i narrowed my choices and i'm going with INNOVA EVO, this will suit my feeding method because i feed raw as well and this one claims to be better in conjunction with raw food, what do you think of the ingredients?
http://www.naturapet.com/display.php...pxsl=//product[@id='1255']

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I want to know how it does... I have a younger cat who may like it... tel tell when the "kids" been on a while

Originally Posted by HUNTER

that's very informative on the garlic issue, i narrowed my choices and i'm going with INNOVA EVO, this will suit my feeding method because i feed raw as well and this one claims to be better in conjunction with raw food, what do you think of the ingredients?
http://www.naturapet.com/display.php...pxsl=//product[@id='1255']

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I think it looks super and am excited about giving it a try in the future, with my cats not needing a special diet.

Originally Posted by DerekG

[*]By the time they add taxes and shipping it becomes a big ripoff[*]I'm using Natural Balance instead[*]You can get Natural Balance at the local PetCo[/list]
By the way, I read on these boards that Natural Balance has a high phosphorus content compared to other brands (1.60%). I guess that is a problem with cats with chronic renal failure. Hopefully it's not a problem for cats, period. Maybe others can shed some light on this.

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I always recommend that folks use the retail store locator on the natura site, to see if there is a brick and mortar store nearby to skip any shipping fees.

Re the phosphorus, it's been discussed on the crf support list I belong to, that it might not be a bad idea in general, to feed one of the lower phos foods to any of one's senior kitties.. as one way to perhaps forestall crf.

My only concern about Innova EVO is that it contains tomatoes, which can be toxic.