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post #1 of 28
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Gotta share this story with you guys.......I don't know whether to be proud of Jerry or mad.....

He was at work the other day when there was this commotion/yelling outside of the building . I guess someone coming to his job in a delivery truck had been cut off on the freeway, so like an idiot, he zoomed in front of him and did the same to him, cut him off. He also gave him the bird!
Well, the first guy got so mad he followed the delivery driver to Jerry's job and jumped out of his truck, cursing and yelling, beating on the side of the van, telling him to get out. The guy in the van pulled out a gun he had under his seat and started waving it at him to go away. Well, the guys who had been outside came running in to the building when they saw the gun. Jerry asked what was going on and they told him. Jerry goes outside and tells the guy beating on the van to go away, this was private property, etc. By this time, the guy in the van had rolled down his window and Jerry looked in and saw the gun and took it from him, telling him he was just going to get himself in trouble and possibly hurt someone with it. I can't believe he just reached in and took it!! Like I said, I don't know whether to be mad or proud. The cops eventually came and the gun was confiscated. I'm SO greatful Jerry wasn't hurt.
I just don't understand road rage. I mean, I get cut off, and I'm sure I've accidentally cut people off without even knowing I did it. But if someone does it to me, I might beep, but I don't get all nasty about it. In this day and age, you just asking for trouble if you ask me.....case in point.
post #2 of 28
OMG Susie i would have to have given Jerry a good yelling at because he's been lucky!!.

The others had the right idea by running inside and it's just not worth the risk, especially when theres so many idiots around these days!.

Give him a talking to from me while your there!
post #3 of 28
Wow, that's really scary Susie! I don't get road rage either. I mean, is anything that happens on the road really bad enough to get that worked up about? Come on...following someone to their destination (when you were obviously in quite a hurry to begin with!) to get in a fight? No wonder the delivery guy had a gun in the van! Although it is his fault for retaliating on the road, he's probably seen one too many idiots going off half cocked like this guy did. At least he didn't just start shooting first and asking questions later...I've heard of people getting shot at on the road for less than being cut off!

At the risk of turning this into an IMO debate....it isn't the gun's fault. A firearrm is an inanimate object. It's dangerous in the wrong hands. It's dangerous in an idiots hands! But I can tell you that I've been handling firearms for about 25 years, and honestly can't think of a time that I've been in an unsafe situation. Maybe that's the people I know, too.

I'm glad Jerry was safe!!
post #4 of 28
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Wow, that's really scary Susie! I don't get road rage either. I mean, is anything that happens on the road really bad enough to get that worked up about? Come on...following someone to their destination (when you were obviously in quite a hurry to begin with!) to get in a fight? No wonder the delivery guy had a gun in the van! Although it is his fault for retaliating on the road, he's probably seen one too many idiots going off half cocked like this guy did. At least he didn't just start shooting first and asking questions later...I've heard of people getting shot at on the road for less than being cut off!

At the risk of turning this into an IMO debate....it isn't the gun's fault. A firearrm is an inanimate object. It's dangerous in the wrong hands. It's dangerous in an idiots hands! But I can tell you that I've been handling firearms for about 25 years, and honestly can't think of a time that I've been in an unsafe situation. Maybe that's the people I know, too.

I'm glad Jerry was safe!!


Oh your right Heidi....no doubt about it......it's not the gun that hurts people.....it's the person handling the gun.
post #5 of 28
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Originally Posted by rosiemac
OMG Susie i would have to have given Jerry a good yelling at because he's been lucky!!.
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post #6 of 28
I wonder if the guy carrying the gun had a permit? I think Ohio has conceal/carry permits like Kentucky does?

I know several guys who carry guns with them & on them. Only one of the guys has a permit, and he's very safe with it. But he's got a violent temper and I wouldn't put it past him to shoot someone for road rage.

So, yah, it's not the gun that kills someone, it's the temper behind the gun.

And I'm sure the "driving situation" that made the guy so angry was not the real issue, anyway. I mean people cut me off all the time and mess with me, but hey that's life. If someone gets that riled that they have to pull a gun out and be Mr. Big Angry Guy, he prolly has some serious issues in his life, other than bad drivers.

post #7 of 28
Susie, please smack your husband for me. Then give him a hug and tell him that if does it again that I will come help you beat his tush.

OH MY GAWD!
post #8 of 28
Goodness! That's quite scary! Thankfully he turned out ok. People are just NUTS on the road. The things people will fight for on the road are so ridiculous, I can't possibly understand it.

Here's another case in point: Last year I was driving back to my apartment and was only maybe a minute or two away from my complex. So, I turn left from a light onto a road and a huge pick-up truck is behind me. I'm already going 55 in a 45 and this guy gets so far on my bumper that brake checking him would have resulted in an accident. He REALLY wanted to pass me, but there was someone in the lane next to me and I would have had to speed up even more to get past him (and already going 55, I didn'treally want too). I brake checked him once or twice when there was a bit of room, and didn't do it roughly, just slightly so he would hopefully back off. Instead this guy turns his brights on and leaves them on so I'm completely blinded and persists on staying on my bumper. Finally I get enough ahead of the guy next to me so that this giant truck can squeeze his way past. The guy drives by (he was a middle aged man with a bandana on), gets right in front of me, and slams on his brakes so hard that smoke was coming out of his tires. I started trying to brake but knew I wouldn't be able to do it in time so I had to just jerk the wheel to get out from behind him (I already knew no one else was on the road going my direction except the one other guy who was now a ways back). When I jerked it my car lost control so I let go of the steering wheel so it could straighten itself out, I went onto the median and wasgoing to head straight into oncoming traffic, but jerked the wheel back the other way and ended up spinning out and stopping back in the lane I started in. The guy in the truck had just sped up and driven away. The other guy who had been going my way stopped so ask if I knew who the truck driver was, but unfortunately I didn't. I was so shaken that I couldn't stop bawling. I scared Brendan to death when I called him and am still to this day terrified of being in the passengers seat while someone else is driving. This jerk caused me some serious PTSD from his insane driving. Once when Brendan and I were on the interstate a red truck of the same make drove by us and I got so spooked that I was hyperventilating and becoming tingly everywhere. Brendan had to talk me into calming down. It's just terrifying the way people drive nowadays. The scariest thing to me about this whole incident was that he did it on PURPOSE and didn't stop to make sure I wasn't HURT after he caused me to lose control and spin out. And I try to be as courteous of a driver as I possibly can.
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by Talon
Susie, please smack your husband for me. Then give him a hug and tell him that if does it again that I will come help you beat his tush.

OH MY GAWD!

LOL, and your close enough to help me to Trace......LOL

Jerry is the kind of man who if he saw someone being mugged, he'd jump out and help.......I mean, I love him for being brave and caring, etc, but gees, I am always so afraid he could get hurt.......
post #10 of 28
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Originally Posted by kittylover4ever
LOL, and your close enough to help me to Trace......LOL

Jerry is the kind of man who if he saw someone being mugged, he'd jump out and help.......I mean, I love him for being brave and caring, etc, but gees, I am always so afraid he could get hurt.......

I am so glad Jerry is ok. And I do know how you feel. Same for Eric - everyday he leaves with a bulletptoof vest for his job.....
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by sashacat421
I am so glad Jerry is ok. And I do know how you feel. Same for Eric - everyday he leaves with a bulletptoof vest for his job.....
It stinks, doesn't it.....?
post #12 of 28
Katherine- your story is so scary! I'm SO glad you lived through that, but I can see how it would cause you PTSD
Susie, thank God Jerry is OK! Both of your stories serve as cautionary tales of road rage.
Thank you both for posting these stories. I admit that I get SO angry when someone cuts me off or stops in the middle of the road to turn without using a turn signal I tend to flick them off AND honk. Bradley is always saying that I am going to rage at the wrong person, and your stories just illistruate why I need to calm the heck down! Hopefully other readers of this thread will learn the same thing!
post #13 of 28
Wow, what a terrifying situation for you and Jerry!
Glad to hear he's okay!
post #14 of 28
Good Lord! Road Rage makes no sense at all. I hope you yelled at him Susie and then kissed him and told him you are glad he is still with you!
post #15 of 28
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Wow, that's really scary Susie! I don't get road rage either. I mean, is anything that happens on the road really bad enough to get that worked up about? Come on...following someone to their destination (when you were obviously in quite a hurry to begin with!) to get in a fight? No wonder the delivery guy had a gun in the van! Although it is his fault for retaliating on the road, he's probably seen one too many idiots going off half cocked like this guy did. At least he didn't just start shooting first and asking questions later...I've heard of people getting shot at on the road for less than being cut off!

At the risk of turning this into an IMO debate....it isn't the gun's fault. A firearrm is an inanimate object. It's dangerous in the wrong hands. It's dangerous in an idiots hands! But I can tell you that I've been handling firearms for about 25 years, and honestly can't think of a time that I've been in an unsafe situation. Maybe that's the people I know, too.

I'm glad Jerry was safe!!
So glad Jerry is OK!

I have to say I hate guns. I know 3 people who are dead because they had a gun. I know NONE (personally) who are alive because they had a gun. I am not saying guns should be outlawed; however, I think gun ownership should be highly regulated. I know someone who bought a gun in Wal-Mart. He had a drug history and suicidal tendencies, but had no problem buying a gun.
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by hissy
Good Lord! Road Rage makes no sense at all. I hope you yelled at him Susie and then kissed him and told him you are glad he is still with you!
That's pretty much the order it went in MA.
post #17 of 28
I'm so glad to hear Jerry's ok. What a scary story for you to hear. But gladly, it all worked out.

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Originally Posted by kittylover4ever
I just don't understand road rage. I mean, I get cut off, and I'm sure I've accidentally cut people off without even knowing I did it. But if someone does it to me, I might beep, but I don't get all nasty about it. In this day and age, you just asking for trouble if you ask me.....case in point.
I have to say that I TOTALLY understand the feeling of road rage. I have it bad. I get REALLY mad , because my biggest pet peeve is people who are inconsiderate/don't bother being aware of the people around them. That being said, when I get road rage I just swear in my car...probably sound like a sailor at times , but it's a better outlet than following someone to work!
post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by katspixiedust


Here's another case in point: Last year I was driving back to my apartment and was only maybe a minute or two away from my complex. So, I turn left from a light onto a road and a huge pick-up truck is behind me. I'm already going 55 in a 45 and this guy gets so far on my bumper that brake checking him would have resulted in an accident. He REALLY wanted to pass me, but there was someone in the lane next to me and I would have had to speed up even more to get past him (and already going 55, I didn'treally want too). I brake checked him once or twice when there was a bit of room, and didn't do it roughly, just slightly so he would hopefully back off. Instead this guy turns his brights on and leaves them on so I'm completely blinded and persists on staying on my bumper. Finally I get enough ahead of the guy next to me so that this giant truck can squeeze his way past. The guy drives by (he was a middle aged man with a bandana on), gets right in front of me, and slams on his brakes so hard that smoke was coming out of his tires. I started trying to brake but knew I wouldn't be able to do it in time so I had to just jerk the wheel to get out from behind him (I already knew no one else was on the road going my direction except the one other guy who was now a ways back). When I jerked it my car lost control so I let go of the steering wheel so it could straighten itself out, I went onto the median and wasgoing to head straight into oncoming traffic, but jerked the wheel back the other way and ended up spinning out and stopping back in the lane I started in. The guy in the truck had just sped up and driven away. The other guy who had been going my way stopped so ask if I knew who the truck driver was, but unfortunately I didn't. I was so shaken that I couldn't stop bawling. I scared Brendan to death when I called him and am still to this day terrified of being in the passengers seat while someone else is driving. This jerk caused me some serious PTSD from his insane driving. Once when Brendan and I were on the interstate a red truck of the same make drove by us and I got so spooked that I was hyperventilating and becoming tingly everywhere. Brendan had to talk me into calming down. It's just terrifying the way people drive nowadays. The scariest thing to me about this whole incident was that he did it on PURPOSE and didn't stop to make sure I wasn't HURT after he caused me to lose control and spin out. And I try to be as courteous of a driver as I possibly can.
That sounds REALLY scary. I'm sorry you had to go through that. The guy obviously had serious issues. Besides, if you were in the right-hand lane, it was the guy in the left that should have moved over, since the left lane is supposed to be the passing lane. But even if it WAS you on the left, that's no excuse for the way that man reacted! I know it bothers me when people drive side by side like that, blocking the road, but GEEZ! I would NEVER consider that a reason or a licence to put those drivers in harms way! I'm very glad that you're (more or less) ok. I hope that, over time, you'll be able to get past the PTSD issues you're having
post #19 of 28
Wow, I'm glad Jerry didn't get hurt!!
post #20 of 28
Sounds like you need to teach him how to dial 9-1-1!!!!!!

Men....
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by catherine
Sounds like you need to teach him how to dial 9-1-1!!!!!!

Men....

You know what Catherine.....the funniest thing is his license plate says, DIAL911


post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by kittylover4ever
You know what Catherine.....the funniest thing is his license plate says, DIAL911




You can't be serious!?!?!?!? Well, maybe he needs it tattooed on his forehead! Like I said earlier, MEN...

At least he's OK!
post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by catherine


You can't be serious!?!?!?!? Well, maybe he needs it tattooed on his forehead! Like I said earlier, MEN...

At least he's OK!
Oh yeah, because he's a fireman....that's why he got that license plate.
post #24 of 28
Jerry sounds like a quick thinker!
I won't take my gun in a vehicle unless I'm going on a major roadtrip & feel a need to have protection. I can't hate something that may make a difference in saving my life someday. But too many people don't understand the responsibility & discipline it takes when you own a gun. I will use it if I absolutely have to..but I would much rather see it hanging out with the dust bunnies under my bed.
post #25 of 28
Susie that is so scary! Thank God Jerry wasn't hurt anything could've happened but at least it ended the way it did. People are nuts to carry guns in there cars . WWWWWat were these two idiots thinking getting into it over something so stuipid?
post #26 of 28
Jerry is really gutsy to do that Susie. You should feel lucky and blessed.
post #27 of 28
That is so scary!!! I'm so glad Jerry is okay, and I'm glad the police were called. People just don't think sometimes. Is getting cut off on the highway worth risking your life over??? I'm sure Jerry felt that he was safe because he knew the driver, but oh my GOSH is he lucky that the man wasn't so enraged/scared that he didn't recognize what Jerry was doing.


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Originally Posted by Rockcat

I have to say I hate guns. I know 3 people who are dead because they had a gun. I know NONE (personally) who are alive because they had a gun.
Well, now you 'know' one. My life has been saved many times because of my sidearm. Of course, I'm not in the same situation as most people.

I so completely agree with Heidi - it's not the gun. It's the people behind them. I don't think we need more laws... I think we need to enforce the laws we already have. Besides, it doesn't matter how many laws there are, the true criminals aren't going to care about them. *sigh*
post #28 of 28
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Well, we have discussed this at length, and to be honest, although he says he will try to not put himself in dangerous situations anymore, I know deep in my that should the occasion arise again, he'd do it again. I just hope God continues to watch over him.
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