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post #1 of 21
4/1/05 at 4:53am
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I already could not stand "Scotty the Body" Savol on American Idol. Now I KNOW he does not deserve to be called an American Idol.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...l_scott_1.html
Now, I am SURE the folks at AI knew about this charge before he became a finalist (this no doubt showed up during his background check), but are only now releasing this tidbit because they want him to be the next to go.
IMO, though, someone who commits domestic violence is NO idol and does not deserve to go as far as he's gone
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post #2 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:27am
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Opinions?
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post #3 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:37am
I like Scott, he has an amazing voice.

Granted, his performance this week was terrible, but last week, it was incredible

Overall though, he won't make it to top5.

Who are your favorites?
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post #4 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:39am
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Originally Posted by ugaimes
I already could not stand "Scotty the Body" Savol on American Idol. Now I KNOW he does not deserve to be called an American Idol.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...l_scott_1.html
Now, I am SURE the folks at AI knew about this charge before he became a finalist (this no doubt showed up during his background check), but are only now releasing this tidbit because they want him to be the next to go.
IMO, though, someone who commits domestic violence is NO idol and does not deserve to go as far as he's gone
the smoking gun rocks, i get their emails everytime something happened, i must have missed the 'scott' one. On the domestic violence angle, well, i bet a lot of finalists had some kind of 'past' behind them ... so it's not a big deal to me.
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post #5 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:42am
I agree, he has to go. I don't care how well he sings, he should not be made into a role model, which is what he may become if he is the next American Idol. We have enough thugs and miserable excuses for human beings in the limelight.
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post #6 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:43am
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Originally Posted by RarePuss
the smoking gun rocks, i get their emails everytime something happened, i must have missed the 'scott' one. On the domestic violence angle, well, i bet a lot of finalists had some kind of 'past' behind them ... so it's not a big deal to me.
So do you feel that him being a convicted abuser is not a big deal and that he deserves a shot at winning?
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post #7 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:48am
The thing with domestic violence case is that there are a lot of he said/ she said stuff going on. He plead out so you really don't have any idea what the circumstances were in court. I know from working for a criminal defense attorney, it was sometimes in the clients best interest to plead out on a case depending on the circumstances, and not always because they were guilty. I am not saying he is innocent, but I don't think that's enough of a reason to kick him off the show.
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post #8 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by krazy kat2
I agree, he has to go. I don't care how well he sings, he should not be made into a role model, which is what he may become if he is the next American Idol. We have enough thugs and miserable excuses for human beings in the limelight.
Amen My thoughts EXACTLY!
Unfortunately, I checked out the AI message board and a lot of people are so ignorant as to the issues surrounding domestic violence, they feel that what he did is no biggie and that he still deserves to be in this competition . http://forums.prospero.com/foxidol/m.../?msg=383078.1
This just has me on fire.
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post #9 of 21
4/1/05 at 6:58am
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Originally Posted by ugaimes
So do you feel that him being a convicted abuser is not a big deal and that he deserves a shot at winning?
NO. I feel, as others have said, that domestic violence is a lot of 'she said, he said' type of deal. men often get accused JUST because they're men. I'm in no way defending him, just stating facts.
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post #10 of 21
4/1/05 at 8:08am
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True, there is some he said/she said every time (who is going to admit that they're abusive?). The fact remains, though, that about 85% of reported DV cases involve male purpetrators.
Sorry, this is a soapbox issue for me , as I am an advocate for victims/survivors of DV.
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post #11 of 21
4/1/05 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by ugaimes
True, there is some he said/she said every time (who is going to admit that they're abusive?). The fact remains, though, that about 85% of reported DV cases involve male purpetrators.
Sorry, this is a soapbox issue for me , as I am an advocate for victims/survivors of DV.
True that there is a larger percentage of DV cases where the male is charged, but you have to take into consideration the number of false claims that are out there. You also have to consider the fact that if a man and a woman are fighting, and especially when a child is involved, the man is more than likely going to to be the one taken away to jail. There are some sick people out there. I am not in any way downplaying DV, but you can't assume that every case is as extreme as others.
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post #12 of 21
4/1/05 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by RarePuss
NO. I feel, as others have said, that domestic violence is a lot of 'she said, he said' type of deal. men often get accused JUST because they're men. I'm in no way defending him, just stating facts.
Many times domestic violence goes unreported for a long time because the victim is embarrased that she allowed the abuse to happen or because she is afraid of retaliation for reporting it. I believe that happens much more often than men getting unjustly accused. From a personal standpoint I don't know ANY men that were accused just because they were men.

I don't watch American Idol. (I might be the only one) I don't know if the contestants are judged solely on their talent. If so, I would say that his personal life has nothing to do with it even if he is a criminal. On the other hand, if American Idol requires the contestant to meet a certian standard and he is not living up to it, then he should be disqualified.
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post #13 of 21
4/1/05 at 11:18am
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Originally Posted by Rockcat
Many times domestic violence goes unreported for a long time because the victim is embarrased that she allowed the abuse to happen or because she is afraid of retaliation for reporting it. I believe that happens much more often than men getting unjustly accused. From a personal standpoint I don't know ANY men that were accused just because they were men.

I don't watch American Idol. (I might be the only one) I don't know if the contestants are judged solely on their talent. If so, I would say that his personal life has nothing to do with it even if he is a criminal. On the other hand, if American Idol requires the contestant to meet a certian standard and he is not living up to it, then he should be disqualified.
Couldn't have said it better myself Renee. Thank you It should also be mentioned that along with physical battering also usually comes lots of emotional, verbal, and sometimes sexual abuse. I only hope that the survivor of Scott's anger has received the proper help for herself and her child.
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post #14 of 21
4/1/05 at 12:40pm
Are they going to do something about it? Didn't someone else have a conviction and they got shown the door?

I did like his "against all odds" but I have a feeling he wouldn't be around too much longer anyways.
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post #15 of 21
4/1/05 at 12:45pm
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As far as I can tell, AI is going to keep him on If this is a reflection of their moral fortitude, I may never watch the show again.
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post #16 of 21
4/1/05 at 1:01pm
If that's true then he should be removed from the show. A person such as that should not even been able to be on the show

However, an Ohio Judge ruled that unmarried people can not commit domestic abuse. That may be why he hasn't been convicted or put on trial.
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post #17 of 21
4/1/05 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by eburgess
If that's true then he should be removed from the show. A person such as that should not even been able to be on the show

However, an Ohio Judge ruled that unmarried people can not commit domestic abuse. That may be why he hasn't been convicted or put on trial.
That's right..I forgot about that!

This defense of marriage thing is really making a mess of things!
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post #18 of 21
4/1/05 at 1:35pm
I'm afraid when it comes to the media - I believe about 1/8th of everything printed or aired.

Too much of it is heresay, someone's opinion or just plain false information.

Like reading rag mags.
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post #19 of 21
4/1/05 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by Yosemite
I'm afraid when it comes to the media - I believe about 1/8th of everything printed or aired.

Too much of it is heresay, someone's opinion or just plain false information.

Like reading rag mags.
Very true, but I'm not disputing his arrest record. That, and the fact that he can't sing
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post #20 of 21
4/4/05 at 10:47am
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Anyone else have opinions on the Scott Savol domestic violence issue? Enquiring minds would like to know!
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post #21 of 21
4/10/05 at 3:53pm
I agree with you.

All of this aside, though, I think he is one of the weakest singers. I thought surely he would have been gone by now.

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Anyone else have opinions on the Scott Savol domestic violence issue? Enquiring minds would like to know!
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