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post #31 of 49
4/1/05 at 10:36pm
Just a note: When our beloved Pope dies, the world will know it. There are certain bells used only for this purpose at the Vatican that are rung almost immediately after the pope dies to mark the beginning of the 9 day mourning period.


After the mourning period, services, etc, all of the Cardinals meet to elect a new pope. This is a VERY strict process, so I won't get into too much detail but I will say that the Cardinals can not vote for themselves. If a Pope is elected, white smoke appears from the Vatican....if one is not elected in a certain amount of time (after what is considered their final count and scrutiny of the votes), black smoke appears, which means the Cardinals have not elected a Pope at that time and that they will repeat the voting process in order to do so.
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post #32 of 49
4/2/05 at 6:21am
I also forgot to add that in 1978 the Catholic Church went through 2 popes because when Pius VI died, the elected John Paul I, who died in less than a year. John Paul II took John Paul I 's name because he only got to be Pope for such a short time.

Back in 1978, my family tells me that many people thought that the Catholic Church would end when the Pope died (which obviously wasn't the case). I wonder where these ideas stem from?
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post #33 of 49
4/2/05 at 8:06am
John Paul I succeeded Paul VI and only reigned for 33 days. He took his name from his two predecessors, the aforementioned Paul VI and John XXIII.

The Catholic Church has survived schisms, scandals and venal Popes. The death of this Pope isn't going to change that.

There are a couple of good books, which give insight into the election of Popes. They are ficition but, they cover the process very well. They are Fr. Andrew Greeley's White Smoke and Morris L. West's The Shoes of the Fisherman. The latter was also an excellent movie, starring Anthony Quinn.
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post #34 of 49
4/2/05 at 9:13am
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Originally Posted by katl8e
John Paul I succeeded Paul VI and only reigned for 33 days. He took his name from his two predecessors, the aforementioned Paul VI and John XXIII.
Does anyone know why John Paul I died? One month isn't a long reign.
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post #35 of 49
4/2/05 at 9:42am
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Originally Posted by mrsd
Does anyone know why John Paul I died? One month isn't a long reign.
I forget, but I know there are persistent rumors that he was actually killed cause he was a bit more progressive. but of course it could be just rumors.
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post #36 of 49
4/2/05 at 9:54am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I#Death

Here is an article about the first John paul. I didn't realize his death was featured in the movie Godfather III
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post #37 of 49
4/2/05 at 10:30am
Thanks, Marge.
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post #38 of 49
4/2/05 at 10:40am
I found this book very interesting, and, at the time I read it, pretty convincing: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance
Yallop is a "true crime" writer of some note. I think I'm going to order Cornwell's book.
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post #39 of 49
4/2/05 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by jcat
I found this book very interesting, and, at the time I read it, pretty convincing: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance
Yallop is a "true crime" writer of some note. I think I'm going to order Cornwell's book.

Thanks! I just got a hold on it from my local library, I am just a girl who loves a conspiracy!
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post #40 of 49
4/2/05 at 11:44am
Here's a question....I know they have been talking about his aids and nurses being there. But, does the Pope have any family still alive? And if he does, are the able to spend time with the Pope now?
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post #41 of 49
4/2/05 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by eburgess
Here's a question....I know they have been talking about his aids and nurses being there. But, does the Pope have any family still alive? And if he does, are the able to spend time with the Pope now?
I've been wondering the same thing - there has been absolutely no mention of family, but I imagine if he does have relatives, they could spend time with him. I remember seeing a documentary about Pope John, and he was visited by family members before his death.
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post #42 of 49
4/2/05 at 12:02pm
Just turned on CNN - the Pope has died, apparently at 9:37 p.m., CET. http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...ies/index.html
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post #43 of 49
4/2/05 at 12:37pm
Very sad. He always said his life was in God's hands. He now is home.
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post #44 of 49
4/2/05 at 1:03pm
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...opegallery.DTL

Here is the photo of him with the man who shot him. I was so touched by that.
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post #45 of 49
4/2/05 at 1:23pm
The man who many believed was God's voice on earth is now with his Heavenly Father. RIP
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post #46 of 49
4/2/05 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by jcat
I've been wondering the same thing - there has been absolutely no mention of family, but I imagine if he does have relatives, they could spend time with him. I remember seeing a documentary about Pope John, and he was visited by family members before his death.

CNN Said he had out lived his parents and brother. Maybe he did not have any family left. That's sad in it's self.

I have a stupid question... was that fountain in St. Peter's Square on this entire time??
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post #47 of 49
4/2/05 at 1:30pm
I know his mother died when he was 8 years old. Not sure about his father and brother.
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post #48 of 49
4/2/05 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by ugaimes
The man who many believed was God's voice on earth is now with his Heavenly Father. RIP
There is no better way to put it.

RIP Pope John Paul. May the Lord guide you home in Peace.
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post #49 of 49
4/2/05 at 7:01pm
And so a page of history turns, and a new one is unveiled. As the page turns, whispering softly it's goodbye, I am reminded that it is a page where we can always return, always re-read, and always relearn (or learn anew) the lessons contained thereon.

Rest in Peace, Karol. Rest in Peace, Pope John Paul II. And move to the waiting angels and hear the chorus of songs sending you to eternity, and know you were loved by billions, and by the One who brings you home now.

Best-
Michele
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