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Cat Hunting in Wisconsin -- Conservation Congress at it again
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I heard this on TV this morning and my sister sent me this article.
A Wisconsin hunter wants to declare open season on Wisconsin's free–roaming domestic cats.
A La Crosse Firefighter has proposed the state re–categorize free–roaming domestic cats as an unprotected specis, which would allow anyone with a small–game hunting license to shoot them.
Hunter Mark Smith calls such cats invasive, adding the measure would help protect the state's wild bird population from a formidable predator.
However, today a local member of WCAT—the Wisconsin Cat Action Team, says wild cats—also known as ferals—should have the same protection as domestic cats—adding Trap, Neuter, Release programs can help to alleviate some of the stray cat complications.
Ted O'Donnell says cats are not naturally a part of our environment. Humans brought them here, so he says we have a responsible to manage them in a humane way.
Meanwhile, hunters throughout the state are scheduled to vote on Smith's proposal April 11th.
According to an attorney for the state's Department of Natural Resources, the vote would only serve as an advisory recommendation to state lawmakers.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can see my neighbor standing 1st in line to vote
Any WI TCS members will have to unite to battle this!!
A Wisconsin hunter wants to declare open season on Wisconsin's free–roaming domestic cats.
A La Crosse Firefighter has proposed the state re–categorize free–roaming domestic cats as an unprotected specis, which would allow anyone with a small–game hunting license to shoot them.
Hunter Mark Smith calls such cats invasive, adding the measure would help protect the state's wild bird population from a formidable predator.
However, today a local member of WCAT—the Wisconsin Cat Action Team, says wild cats—also known as ferals—should have the same protection as domestic cats—adding Trap, Neuter, Release programs can help to alleviate some of the stray cat complications.
Ted O'Donnell says cats are not naturally a part of our environment. Humans brought them here, so he says we have a responsible to manage them in a humane way.
Meanwhile, hunters throughout the state are scheduled to vote on Smith's proposal April 11th.
According to an attorney for the state's Department of Natural Resources, the vote would only serve as an advisory recommendation to state lawmakers.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can see my neighbor standing 1st in line to vote
Any WI TCS members will have to unite to battle this!!
Gail, don't even get me started! angry2:
I am so mad to hear this! Even worse than Sasha's coyote. Just get me on a Peterbilt!!!! Where is my housewife torture kit when I need it?? Would you please tell them I'm coming to Wisconsin, so help me hanna.
I am so mad to hear this! Even worse than Sasha's coyote. Just get me on a Peterbilt!!!! Where is my housewife torture kit when I need it?? Would you please tell them I'm coming to Wisconsin, so help me hanna.
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More and continuing information is at:
Hunting Cats? - Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources [WI DNR] Conservation Congress
http://catsinthenews.blogspot.com/20...rtment-of.html
Or, just click on the link in my signature block below for Feral Cats in the News ~ the Feral Cat Blog!
Hunting Cats? - Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources [WI DNR] Conservation Congress
http://catsinthenews.blogspot.com/20...rtment-of.html
Or, just click on the link in my signature block below for Feral Cats in the News ~ the Feral Cat Blog!
OMG!! I could not BELIEVE that! I just saw an article on the Yahoo! homepage, and was going to post it if no one else had. That's AWFUL!!
Yep. First it's free roaming cats, then we'll get those other pesky little critters... they call 'em "kids" I think. Darn things running around, makin' noise, disturbin' Bubba's quiet repose... (NOT!!!!!!!!!!!)
I used to think that most states in the union could at least claim some sort of basic level of sanity - now Wisconsin moves from the land of the cheeseheads to the land of the loonies! Before anyone starts to defend Wisconsin, I am making my comments in jest (sort of) but I really do hope that the rest of the normal humans in Wisconsin make sure that this crackpot is shouted down in the loudest fashion. From an animal control officers standpoint, I sure hope that any state legislator that even gives this concept passing consideration should be voted out just as quick.
I used to think that most states in the union could at least claim some sort of basic level of sanity - now Wisconsin moves from the land of the cheeseheads to the land of the loonies! Before anyone starts to defend Wisconsin, I am making my comments in jest (sort of) but I really do hope that the rest of the normal humans in Wisconsin make sure that this crackpot is shouted down in the loudest fashion. From an animal control officers standpoint, I sure hope that any state legislator that even gives this concept passing consideration should be voted out just as quick.
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So does this mean that I can rest assured that this lunacy will not make it's way into Virginia?? I certainly hope not.
Katie
Not in Virginia! Not on my watch! - But then again, this from a state that almost passed a "no low pants" law!
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Woohoo...sanity reigns!! Now Mark...you know you can't retire anytime soon right!
Katie
What's up with that
, that's the saddest bunch of crap I've heard yet. How can people who even like to hunt do that,
It's absloutely horrible, If it happens one place it will happen in more, I would absloutely for sure go to jail for that cause
This has made my day suck
I think of all the people who are spending there time and effort to TNR or find homes for them including myself, It has been the toughest thing I have ever taken on and to read this is unbeleivable,,,What the hell is wrong with people, Sorry I am just shocked to see this, but then I wonder now how much we never see or hear of, gads this is to
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There is already a discussion about this on my local Craigslist:
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pet/
"Open Season on cats"
Katie
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/pet/
"Open Season on cats"
Katie
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Ok, lets say this crap passes, how do these "people" know the diffrence between say a stray and a pet that has gotten loose? How are you going to tell little Suzy that you shot Mittens because he as chaing a bird when he escape her house.
Or Better yet, what ar you going to say when I a 5'9" 310lb man shows up at your door with my dead cat that YOU shot because it ate a Sparrow. Guess what? I have a gun too, and I plan on keeping my cat alive or if need be avenging his/her death, you shoot my cat, I shoot you.
Thats MY law.
Or Better yet, what ar you going to say when I a 5'9" 310lb man shows up at your door with my dead cat that YOU shot because it ate a Sparrow. Guess what? I have a gun too, and I plan on keeping my cat alive or if need be avenging his/her death, you shoot my cat, I shoot you.
Thats MY law.
This topic was also being discussed in the IMO category on this site.
The whole idea of shooting cats just makes me sick.
The whole idea of shooting cats just makes me sick.
This was in last night's paper: (at least there are some same people in Wisconsin besides me!!)
Editorial: More than one way to skin a cat
The proposed cat hunt in Wisconsin is for the birds, or so Question 62 on the Wisconsin Conservation Congressâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji] April agenda tells us.
Mark Smith, a bird lover from La Crosse, hatched the idea. He says heâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s sick of finding cat tracks under his bird feeder.
The same license that allows people to shoot weasels, possums and skunks would permit them to shoot cats that arenâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t under an ownerâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s “direct control†or arenâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t wearing collars.
Itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s true that feral cats are a nuisance, and not just to birds. Some researchers believe cats can infect humans with bird flu. They can also spread salmonella.
The difference between them and weasels, however, is that cats may also be someoneâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s pet.
Smith says: “If Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m in the woods and see a cat that doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t have a collar, then I could shoot it. It gives people some leeway if they want to remove cats. … If I catch a cat in the yard in a live trap, I should be able to put that animal down.â€
If you can catch the cat in a trap, you can also take it to an animal shelter where its owner, if it has one, can find it. If there is no owner, at least the cat may have a shot at finding a home.
If not, professionals can decide whether or not to euthanize it, not someone with a gun and a grudge against cats.
Editorial: More than one way to skin a cat
The proposed cat hunt in Wisconsin is for the birds, or so Question 62 on the Wisconsin Conservation Congressâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji] April agenda tells us.
Mark Smith, a bird lover from La Crosse, hatched the idea. He says heâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s sick of finding cat tracks under his bird feeder.
The same license that allows people to shoot weasels, possums and skunks would permit them to shoot cats that arenâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t under an ownerâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s “direct control†or arenâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t wearing collars.
Itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s true that feral cats are a nuisance, and not just to birds. Some researchers believe cats can infect humans with bird flu. They can also spread salmonella.
The difference between them and weasels, however, is that cats may also be someoneâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s pet.
Smith says: “If Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m in the woods and see a cat that doesnâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t have a collar, then I could shoot it. It gives people some leeway if they want to remove cats. … If I catch a cat in the yard in a live trap, I should be able to put that animal down.â€
If you can catch the cat in a trap, you can also take it to an animal shelter where its owner, if it has one, can find it. If there is no owner, at least the cat may have a shot at finding a home.
If not, professionals can decide whether or not to euthanize it, not someone with a gun and a grudge against cats.
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Here is the letter I submitted to the Star Tribune:
I was sickened upon reading your article about WI trying to pass a law making it legal to shoot stray cats because of their danger to birds. Lets say this sick law passes, how does one distinguish between a stray and someone beloved pet that has gotten out? How is a parent going to explain to a child that their cat was shot because someone didn't like it in their yard? "Sorry Suzie, Mittens was doing what a cat does naturally, and someone decided to shoot him"
Why stop at cats? I have people walking their dogs and they use my yard as a bathroom, why not shoot the dogs? Itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s a nuisance to have to clean it up.
Come to think of it, children use my yard as a shortcut to and from the local school all the time, ruining my grass, littering, being loud, you know, being a nuisance.
No if you'll excuse me those damn Johnson kids are in my yard again………
I was sickened upon reading your article about WI trying to pass a law making it legal to shoot stray cats because of their danger to birds. Lets say this sick law passes, how does one distinguish between a stray and someone beloved pet that has gotten out? How is a parent going to explain to a child that their cat was shot because someone didn't like it in their yard? "Sorry Suzie, Mittens was doing what a cat does naturally, and someone decided to shoot him"
Why stop at cats? I have people walking their dogs and they use my yard as a bathroom, why not shoot the dogs? Itâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s a nuisance to have to clean it up.
Come to think of it, children use my yard as a shortcut to and from the local school all the time, ruining my grass, littering, being loud, you know, being a nuisance.
No if you'll excuse me those damn Johnson kids are in my yard again………
Oh Mark-Don't get ME started!! I can point to at least ONE case where myrriad errors of Hiring, training, execution of a search warrant, evidence gathering, outright lying and animal abuse all occured in the name of "protecting the animals".Originally Posted by Mark Kumpf
Not in Virginia! Not on my watch! - But then again, this from a state that almost passed a "no low pants" law!
Care to guess to what I refer?
Ok - Let sleeping dogs er... cats lie! Don't make me have to open up my 10 gallon bucket of doo and do you!
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Agree with Mark on this one....
Katie
Katie
Bring it on, babydoll! You got a 10 gallon bucket and I got a 9000 gallon tanker!
Mark, when I get home, who's buying dinner at Hooters?
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ATTENTION WISCONSIN RESIDENTS
The Conservation Congress in every county of Wisconsin will meet at 7:00 pm on Monday, April 11, 2005. At these meetings, residents will be asked to vote on whether feral cats should be listed as an unprotected species and be legally hunted year round. Wisconsin cats need you to attend these meetings and vote “NO!â€
If this measure passes, feral or free-roaming cats will be defined as "any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property." This means that any cat that is outside, unattended, and not wearing a collar, could be killed.
This proposal puts not only feral and stray cats at risk, but also Wisconsinâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s tame cats. As you know, not all owned cats wear collars. The cats need your help! Vote “NO†on April 11 and get your friends to do the same!
MARK YOUR CALENDAR! April 11, 2005 at 7 pm (for locations, please click here).
Here is the wording of Question 62, taken from here.
Question 62 - Feral Cats Studies have been done in Wisconsin concerning effects of free roaming feral domestic cats. These studies showed free roaming feral domestic cats killed millions of small mammals, song and game birds. Estimates range from a minimum of 47 million up to 139 million songbirds are killed each year. Free roaming feral domestic cats are not a native species in Wisconsin. The above mentioned cats do however kill native species therefore reducing native species.
At present free roaming feral domestic cats are not defined as a protected or unprotected species. Thus Wisconsin should move to define free roaming feral domestic cats, as any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property. All such defined free roaming feral domestic cats shall be listed as an unprotected species. In so doing Wisconsin would be defining and listing free roaming feral domestic cats.
Do you favor the DNR take steps to define free roaming feral domestic cats by the previously mentioned definition and list free roaming domestic feral cats as an unprotected species?
This is the explanation of "Unprotected," taken from the 2004 Small Game Hunting Regulations pamphlet: http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/regs/SGHunt04.pdf
Unprotected Wild Animals
The following wild animals are designated unprotected. No closed season, bag limit, size limit or possession limit applies to these animals:
Opossum, skunk, weasel.
Starlings, English sparrows, coturnix quail and chukar partridge.
Any other wild animal that is not a Game Animal, Game Bird, Game Fish, Furbearing Animal, Protected Wild Animal, or Endangered or Threatened Species.
What else can you do:
Be a County Coordinator. Three Wisconsin animal organizations have created the Wisconsin Cat Action Team to help spearhead the campaign against hunting feral cats.The WI Cat Action Team is hoping to find at least one person in each county to act as a County Coordinator. This person would be responsible for being a contact point for interested parties in their county, as well as helping to create support for attendance at the Hearings. If you or someone you know are interested, please contact them at [email protected].
Let the Cat Action Team know if you are interested in being involved in TNR efforts in Wisconsin.
The group is trying to put together a list of people interested in helping with TNR across the state to provide a humane solution when dealing with feral cats.
Inform as many Wisconsin residents as possible. If you have friends or family in Wisconsin, let them know about this and urge them to attend the April hearings. Tell them to spread the word to their friends! The more people we can reach the better.
At this point in the process, letters wonâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help change the vote, only voting at the hearings will make a difference. If the vote passes, laws would have to be changed and the proposal would go before the legislature. At that time letters and petitions will be appropriate.
To keep up-to-date on the issue, visit www.dontshootthecat.com. Please feel free to contact [email protected] for more information.
The citizens of Wisconsin must take action to stop this cruel measure from being adopted. Please attend the meeting in your county on April 11 and vote "NO" on Question 62!
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:53 am:
NOT FROM WISCONSIN?
Wisconsinâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s cats still need your help!
The Conservation Congress in every county of Wisconsin will meet at 7:00 pm on Monday, April 11, 2005. At these meetings, residents will be asked to vote on whether feral cats should be listed as an unprotected species and be legally hunted year round. Wisconsin cats need you to attend these meetings and vote “NO!â€
If this measure passes, feral or free-roaming cats will be defined as "any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property." This means that any cat that is outside, unattended, and not wearing a collar, could be killed.
This proposal puts not only feral and stray cats at risk, but also Wisconsinâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s tame cats. As you know, not all owned cats wear collars. The cats need your help! Vote “NO†on April 11 and get your friends to do the same!
Here is the wording of Question 62, taken from here.
Question 62 - Feral Cats Studies have been done in Wisconsin concerning effects of free roaming feral domestic cats. These studies showed free roaming feral domestic cats killed millions of small mammals, song and game birds. Estimates range from a minimum of 47 million up to 139 million songbirds are killed each year. Free roaming feral domestic cats are not a native species in Wisconsin. The above mentioned cats do however kill native species therefore reducing native species.
At present free roaming feral domestic cats are not defined as a protected or unprotected species. Thus Wisconsin should move to define free roaming feral domestic cats, as any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property. All such defined free roaming feral domestic cats shall be listed as an unprotected species. In so doing Wisconsin would be defining and listing free roaming feral domestic cats.
Do you favor the DNR take steps to define free roaming feral domestic cats by the previously mentioned definition and list free roaming domestic feral cats as an unprotected species?
This is the explanation of "Unprotected," taken from the 2004 Small Game Hunting Regulations pamphlet: http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/regs/SGHunt04.pdf
Unprotected Wild Animals
The following wild animals are designated unprotected. No closed season, bag limit, size limit or possession limit applies to these animals:
Opossum, skunk, weasel.
Starlings, English sparrows, coturnix quail and chukar partridge.
Any other wild animal that is not a Game Animal, Game Bird, Game Fish, Furbearing Animal, Protected Wild Animal, or Endangered or Threatened Species.
What can you do?
Inform as many Wisconsin residents as possible. If you have friends or family in Wisconsin, let them know about this and urge them to attend the April hearings. Tell them to spread the word to their friends! The more people we can reach the better. Send them here!
Let Wisconsin activists know that people around the country are concerned. E-mail your comments to the WI Cat Action Team at [email protected].
At this point in the process, letters wonâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help change the vote, only voting at the hearings will make a difference. If the vote passes, laws would have to be changed and the proposal would go before the legislature. At that time letters and petitions will be appropriate.
To keep up-to-date on the issue, visit www.dontshootthecat.com. Contact [email protected] for more information.
The Conservation Congress in every county of Wisconsin will meet at 7:00 pm on Monday, April 11, 2005. At these meetings, residents will be asked to vote on whether feral cats should be listed as an unprotected species and be legally hunted year round. Wisconsin cats need you to attend these meetings and vote “NO!â€
If this measure passes, feral or free-roaming cats will be defined as "any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property." This means that any cat that is outside, unattended, and not wearing a collar, could be killed.
This proposal puts not only feral and stray cats at risk, but also Wisconsinâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s tame cats. As you know, not all owned cats wear collars. The cats need your help! Vote “NO†on April 11 and get your friends to do the same!
MARK YOUR CALENDAR! April 11, 2005 at 7 pm (for locations, please click here).
Here is the wording of Question 62, taken from here.
Question 62 - Feral Cats Studies have been done in Wisconsin concerning effects of free roaming feral domestic cats. These studies showed free roaming feral domestic cats killed millions of small mammals, song and game birds. Estimates range from a minimum of 47 million up to 139 million songbirds are killed each year. Free roaming feral domestic cats are not a native species in Wisconsin. The above mentioned cats do however kill native species therefore reducing native species.
At present free roaming feral domestic cats are not defined as a protected or unprotected species. Thus Wisconsin should move to define free roaming feral domestic cats, as any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property. All such defined free roaming feral domestic cats shall be listed as an unprotected species. In so doing Wisconsin would be defining and listing free roaming feral domestic cats.
Do you favor the DNR take steps to define free roaming feral domestic cats by the previously mentioned definition and list free roaming domestic feral cats as an unprotected species?
This is the explanation of "Unprotected," taken from the 2004 Small Game Hunting Regulations pamphlet: http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/regs/SGHunt04.pdf
Unprotected Wild Animals
The following wild animals are designated unprotected. No closed season, bag limit, size limit or possession limit applies to these animals:
Opossum, skunk, weasel.
Starlings, English sparrows, coturnix quail and chukar partridge.
Any other wild animal that is not a Game Animal, Game Bird, Game Fish, Furbearing Animal, Protected Wild Animal, or Endangered or Threatened Species.
What else can you do:
Be a County Coordinator. Three Wisconsin animal organizations have created the Wisconsin Cat Action Team to help spearhead the campaign against hunting feral cats.The WI Cat Action Team is hoping to find at least one person in each county to act as a County Coordinator. This person would be responsible for being a contact point for interested parties in their county, as well as helping to create support for attendance at the Hearings. If you or someone you know are interested, please contact them at [email protected].
Let the Cat Action Team know if you are interested in being involved in TNR efforts in Wisconsin.
The group is trying to put together a list of people interested in helping with TNR across the state to provide a humane solution when dealing with feral cats.
Inform as many Wisconsin residents as possible. If you have friends or family in Wisconsin, let them know about this and urge them to attend the April hearings. Tell them to spread the word to their friends! The more people we can reach the better.
At this point in the process, letters wonâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help change the vote, only voting at the hearings will make a difference. If the vote passes, laws would have to be changed and the proposal would go before the legislature. At that time letters and petitions will be appropriate.
To keep up-to-date on the issue, visit www.dontshootthecat.com. Please feel free to contact [email protected] for more information.
The citizens of Wisconsin must take action to stop this cruel measure from being adopted. Please attend the meeting in your county on April 11 and vote "NO" on Question 62!
Posted Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:53 am:
NOT FROM WISCONSIN?
Wisconsinâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s cats still need your help!
The Conservation Congress in every county of Wisconsin will meet at 7:00 pm on Monday, April 11, 2005. At these meetings, residents will be asked to vote on whether feral cats should be listed as an unprotected species and be legally hunted year round. Wisconsin cats need you to attend these meetings and vote “NO!â€
If this measure passes, feral or free-roaming cats will be defined as "any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property." This means that any cat that is outside, unattended, and not wearing a collar, could be killed.
This proposal puts not only feral and stray cats at risk, but also Wisconsinâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s tame cats. As you know, not all owned cats wear collars. The cats need your help! Vote “NO†on April 11 and get your friends to do the same!
Here is the wording of Question 62, taken from here.
Question 62 - Feral Cats Studies have been done in Wisconsin concerning effects of free roaming feral domestic cats. These studies showed free roaming feral domestic cats killed millions of small mammals, song and game birds. Estimates range from a minimum of 47 million up to 139 million songbirds are killed each year. Free roaming feral domestic cats are not a native species in Wisconsin. The above mentioned cats do however kill native species therefore reducing native species.
At present free roaming feral domestic cats are not defined as a protected or unprotected species. Thus Wisconsin should move to define free roaming feral domestic cats, as any domestic type cat which is not under the owner's direct control, or whose owner has not placed a collar on such cat showing it to be their property. All such defined free roaming feral domestic cats shall be listed as an unprotected species. In so doing Wisconsin would be defining and listing free roaming feral domestic cats.
Do you favor the DNR take steps to define free roaming feral domestic cats by the previously mentioned definition and list free roaming domestic feral cats as an unprotected species?
This is the explanation of "Unprotected," taken from the 2004 Small Game Hunting Regulations pamphlet: http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/regs/SGHunt04.pdf
Unprotected Wild Animals
The following wild animals are designated unprotected. No closed season, bag limit, size limit or possession limit applies to these animals:
Opossum, skunk, weasel.
Starlings, English sparrows, coturnix quail and chukar partridge.
Any other wild animal that is not a Game Animal, Game Bird, Game Fish, Furbearing Animal, Protected Wild Animal, or Endangered or Threatened Species.
What can you do?
Inform as many Wisconsin residents as possible. If you have friends or family in Wisconsin, let them know about this and urge them to attend the April hearings. Tell them to spread the word to their friends! The more people we can reach the better. Send them here!
Let Wisconsin activists know that people around the country are concerned. E-mail your comments to the WI Cat Action Team at [email protected].
At this point in the process, letters wonâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t help change the vote, only voting at the hearings will make a difference. If the vote passes, laws would have to be changed and the proposal would go before the legislature. At that time letters and petitions will be appropriate.
To keep up-to-date on the issue, visit www.dontshootthecat.com. Contact [email protected] for more information.
