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post #31 of 56
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And in Ohio!!! OMG. This just makes me so mad. We are all working harder, longer hours for actually less money as things have been so inflated! How can anyone really get ahead? I have my debit card and 1 credit card and by most standards I am well-off??? Like with who else --Bessie the cow?! What a bunch of hooey! It just makes me so mad.
I should think very seriously about returning to my original game plan....going to Paris to be a writer in some romantic flat on a skinny street with lots of lovers, and eating chocolate du lait!
You can do that in Wisconsin. Lots of French cheese and milk.
Aren't there any more peasant revolts???
post #32 of 56
ha ha. My sister is looking for milkers on their dairy she will start you out at $7/hr and all the milk you can drink (HA HA). Do you have any experience in driving a tractor????
post #33 of 56
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A tractor? You bet I do! I can handle a Peterbuilt better than any woman in Maple Valley - and with heels, too!
post #34 of 56
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Originally Posted by sashacat421
A tractor? You bet I do! I can handle a Peterbuilt better than any woman in Maple Valley - and with heels, too!


post #35 of 56
Well I don't heels are written in the job requirement!! Even though it would be less surface area when you step in "you know what"!! She jokingly offered that to me knowing I have 146 days 2 hrs and 15 minutes left on this job (but I'm not counting).
Job market is okay around here but the wages are less that what most people on the coasts are used to. Unless you get in the paper mills. This area makes most of the toilet paper in the country I'll have you know-always a demand for that!!
post #36 of 56
A fixer-upper with about 300 sq. feet goes for $300,000 to $400,000 in my area. A one-bedroom condo costs upwards of $120,000. No wonder most people rent! Don't even ask about the price of gasoline - 4x the U.S. price! Food is cheaper, though.
post #37 of 56
In our area you are looking at $250,000 just for your average 3 bedroom, 2 bath house of about 1,800 sq. ft. It goes up steeply from there.
post #38 of 56
Prices in Florida vary quite a bit. I'm not sure how much a home here in Orlando is, but back in my hometown of Ormond Beach they are going up quite a bit. Ormond has always been a desirable places for families due to its location to the beach, good town management, and school system but lately it's been increasing in prices much more rapidly. It's the reason my brother moved to Palm Coast instead of Ormond. If he were to ahve paid the same thing as he did for the house in Palm Coast for a house in Ormond, he would be living in something about as big as his old apartment. Also, my roommates sister is looking for a home in Ormond right now and has not been able to find one she likes at all for under $250 and even then they are going for more than the asking price! Here in Florida we don't have state income tax so things tend to seem cheaper, but that cut in cost is made up for with low salaries for most jobs.

In Orlando gas is currently 1.89 I believe. In Ormond it's probably .10 more since Volusia county has a higher gas tax than Orange county does. I buy organic milk so I couldn't tell you how much regular milk is. I think I pay between $3-$4 for organic though, so regular would be a bit cheaper.
post #39 of 56
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Originally Posted by jcat
A fixer-upper with about 300 sq. feet goes for $300,000 to $400,000 in my area. A one-bedroom condo costs upwards of $120,000. No wonder most people rent! Don't even ask about the price of gasoline - 4x the U.S. price! Food is cheaper, though.

300 s/ft? Like enough to breathe? 300? or did you mean 3,000. Good grief, Tricia, where do you live???
post #40 of 56
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Originally Posted by sashacat421
300 s/ft? Like enough to breathe? 300? or did you mean 3,000. Good grief, Tricia, where do you live???
It's life in Europe Eddie!!! I live in an area where prices are not particularly high and our 800 sq ft (on ground floor) home costs around $500,000. In the surrounding areas prices are a lot higher. Youngsters starting out here find it very difficult to afford a house.
post #41 of 56
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No way! That is beyond sticker shock, that is the French Revolution all over again!
Youngsters finding it difficult to afford a house? How about half a shack? Half a meal? Oh that is just too depressing.
post #42 of 56
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Originally Posted by sashacat421
No way! That is beyond sticker shock, that is the French Revolution all over again!
Youngsters finding it difficult to afford a house? How about half a shack? Half a meal? Oh that is just too depressing.
I only live 100 miles away from London - if my house was 20 miles away from London with less land it would cost $4 million.
post #43 of 56
At out house here in Wellington, New Zealand we pay NZ$250.00 which is US$180.00 a week to rent our house, if we were to buy our house it would cost US$138,800 and we live in a nice sized house with a good section and in a very nice area!
post #44 of 56
I have only lived in Orange nSW for a year I moved from WA in WA Perth you can still buy a nice house 4 bed 2 bath2 living brick and tile for around $180,000 but here in Orange for the same at least $350,000 in the new areas in the older central business distric up tp $800,00 needless to say we rent and thats expensive at $240 a week for a 3 bedroom nice area. so it seems like its the same all ove,r the dream of owning your own home is slipping away from a lot of us.
post #45 of 56
Colorado has a good housing market, especially geared for transplants who sell their homes for ridiculous amounts in places like California, Texas, Washington... You can get a nice-sized townhome for under $200. A very nice single-family detached goes for $250. They won't build a new home that will get less than $250 (except condos and townhomes, and new builds of those still get close to $200). It's great for transplants because when they spend the equity from their old home they get a serious upgrade. Sucks for us who are trying to start out because it's difficult to even find a starter home unless you want to buy a condo (why buy an apartment??). Salaries aren't bad here, job market isn't terribly bad either. Sure, it would be a cut from a California job, but the cost of living is definitely cheaper.

BTW, we buy our milk at Sam's Club and can get it for around $2.80/gallon. In grocery stores it's about $3.50/gallon. Gas just jumped 10 cents last week to $1.97/gallon.
post #46 of 56
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Originally Posted by sashacat421
300 s/ft? Like enough to breathe? 300? or did you mean 3,000. Good grief, Tricia, where do you live???
I meant 300. Space is at a premium in European cities. The exterior and interior walls, floors, etc., are solid, the roofs are tile, and the houses are built to last. No wooden frames, insulation, and plasterboard. We co-own a house that was built in the fifteenth century. You sacrifice space in order to be able to afford a solid structure.
Tokyo is worse, of course.
post #47 of 56
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Originally Posted by jcat
.... We co-own a house that was built in the fifteenth century. You sacrifice space in order to be able to afford a solid structure.
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oh swell. --"Come see my new digs, dontcha just love my 3,000 square feet? But walk softly though, we're in Europe and we could crumble at any moment, we have so much space!"
post #48 of 56
real-estate prices here in Northern VA are INSANE!!! Most condos don't sell for under $250,000 , most townhomes don't sell for under $300,000; and its near impossible to find single family homes for under $400,000. The neighborhood I teach in pulls from two VERY well off communities. One is a gated community and one is a brand new development both where the house prices are right around $600,000 or $700,000 on average.


I currently rent and we pay $1300 a month for our 2 bedroom apartment. Fortunately since I am a teacher and considered "low-income" I was able to apply for a program and buy an affordable townhouse in a brand new delvelopment!! My townhouse, which will settle in June, cost $130,000 where my neighbors are paying about $300,000 for theirs.
post #49 of 56
This is fascinating reading all of these. DH and I often talk about if we should eventually move back East where all my family and most of his reside. But these prices are beyond anything I recall seeing in Central NY 9 years ago! DH does not want to move to NY state though so that is a mute point...we've thought of Ohio, North Carolina, New Hampshire.

Yeow....maybe rural WA state makes just as much sense though the commute would then be nutso...sigh.
post #50 of 56
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Originally Posted by sashacat421
oh swell. --"Come see my new digs, dontcha just love my 3,000 square feet? But walk softly though, we're in Europe and we could crumble at any moment, we have so much space!"
Let me put it this way - I've never heard of a dog chewing through a wall and suffocating in a bag of potato chips stored in the pantry here, which is exactly what happened after a friend bought a brand-new house in Delaware.
Also - imagine over 80 million people living in Wyoming - what do you think real estate prices would be like?
post #51 of 56
Hey I'll trade you I've always loved Seattle! Seriously down here in Utah the houses aren't too bad. There's a couple areas where a nice house goes for 300K+, but I think the average is 225-260K around where I live. Our house on an acre just appraised for a little over 210K because it's getting pretty old. In the more remote areas like Tooele you can get a brand new one for way cheap. My dad just bought a 2 story house thats pretty damn big, I don't know how many square feet but it's good, for about 114K. Then again there's not much to see in Tooele aside from the occasional tumbleweed, lol.

Later,
Brandon
post #52 of 56
You're gonna hate me. I bought 10 acres and a 2300 square foot Victorian house about 11 years ago for $102,500. The annual taxes are about $800. I think the recent appraisal would be about $179,000, but we have put a lot of money into the place (roof, windows, siding, electricity, plumbing, etc). If you put my house and land into an area such as Denver, it would be worth about $1 million and I couldn't afford the taxes.

I price real estate in various parts of the country all the time and the sticker shock has kept me here longer than I ever expected to be. I hate to pay more for half the house on a postage stamp lot.
post #53 of 56
Oh, it's unbelievable how things are. I am in very Northern MD. If I bought a 3,000 square foot house "in town" in a postage stamp piece of property (1/4 acre), we are talking a good $400,000-500,000. If we wanted two acres with the 3,000 square foot house like what we have now, it's more like $600,000-700,000 (and that is in a development - we don't "do" developments... BTDT - will never again... hate living close to other people).

Since I bought away from town in the rolling hills and cornfields (but not the boonies - just peace and quiet but not very convenient as far as stores, etc.) , anyway, four years ago I bought this 3,000 square foot house on two acres for $221,000 (a steal... a dentist lost his practice and was looking for a quick move - we seriously lucked out). We just got it appraised for $420,000. It's crazy really.... but like I said... this same house on this property sitting "in town" is more like $600,000-700,000.

We have plans of buying about 10-20 acres in the next five years and building in the future on it... however, we are still having fun doing stuff with this house... I just did a tumbled marble backsplash with slate insert in my kitchen... I JUST finished it... I should post pics It's been keeping me busy... I also don't want a house any bigger than this... this house is double our first house and it has kicked my butt as far as keeping it clean! I'm actually looking for a house cleaner right now to come in once a week...
post #54 of 56
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Originally Posted by Momofmany
You're gonna hate me. I bought 10 acres and a 2300 square foot Victorian house about 11 years ago for $102,500. The annual taxes are about $800. I think the recent appraisal would be about $179,000, but we have put a lot of money into the place (roof, windows, siding, electricity, plumbing, etc). If you put my house and land into an area such as Denver, it would be worth about $1 million and I couldn't afford the taxes.

I price real estate in various parts of the country all the time and the sticker shock has kept me here longer than I ever expected to be. I hate to pay more for half the house on a postage stamp lot.
Now that kind of acerage, type of house and price is right up my alley It sounds lovely! Though my druthers are truly for 25-50 acres and a huge privacy hedge
post #55 of 56
About 2 years ago we looked at a house south of us (further from work) on 67 acres, good sized house with a river running across the property on one end, rocky bluffs on another side, and 20 acres farm land up front to rent out for income. Had it not been for the drive, we would have bought it for the riduculously low price of $150,000.
post #56 of 56
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I drive 3 hrs a day and I would have bought that in a heartbeat. That's just like what we saw last weekend which sold 4 hrs before we got there.
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