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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Will there ever be a women president in the US. What kind of leader will she be, and who would you like to see as president?
post #2 of 18
I think there will be some day, but I don't think the country is ready for one just yet.

As for what kind of leader...well...I think she's going to really have to keep on her toes. Once the country finds itself ready for a woman president, the rest of the world may not be. I think you'll see other world leaders trying to take advantage of her, because you'd find that there would still be that old school of thinking that it would be easy to pull one over on her.

Hehe...I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes here.
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
As long as nobody stoops to the horrible sterotypes like women can't be leaders b/c of the lack of a penis, we'll all be fine.
post #4 of 18
If she doesn't come across too smart and has policies that go against the average joes economic interests...hell she should do fine!
those red states'l voter her in!

(oh and kiss up to the NRA and talk about Jesus a lot too)
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by Marge
If she doesn't come across too smart and has policies that go against the average joes economic interests...hell she should do fine!
those red states'l voter her in!

(oh and kiss up to the NRA and talk about Jesus a lot too)
LOL! Sad as it is, that's what it would take (meaning maybe only Laura Bush could run )
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by buckeye23
I think there will be some day, but I don't think the country is ready for one just yet.

As for what kind of leader...well...I think she's going to really have to keep on her toes. Once the country finds itself ready for a woman president, the rest of the world may not be. I think you'll see other world leaders trying to take advantage of her, because you'd find that there would still be that old school of thinking that it would be easy to pull one over on her.

Hehe...I hope I didn't step on anyone's toes here.
From the Iron Ladies Golda Meir (once described as the only man in the Israeli cabinet) to the more famous Margaret Thatcher of UK, to the largest democracy in the world India, who had in the past elected Indira Gandhi to be Prime Minister and more recently almost had Sonia Gandhi to be their Prime Minister but controversy over her being a foreign born Prime Minister culminated in her declining the Prime Minister post, the world has seen and elected female leaders.

Even Muslim nations, which has been lambasted in the West for their treatment of women have had female leaders. From Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan (elected twice), to the more recent case of Indonesia who was lead by Megawati until her lost in the recent elections. In fact, there was wide spread street protest in the Islamic nation of Indonesia initially because the post of Presidency was given to a man who was the head of the largest religious organisation in the country rather than to her. The protest resulted in the compromise of her being named the VP and her taking over a short while later when the President stepped down.

Let us not forget nobel prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi of Myanmar who is the head of their democratic movement against the military junta.

From Ireland to India, Israel to Indonesia, Philippines to Pakistan, New Zealand to Norway, and of course good ol' Canada, these are just some of the countries that have been lead by female President/Prime Minister.

Given the continued opposition to ERA (although it has been argued that the courts "activism" has achieved much of the main goals of ERA thus removing its need), the question is not whether would the rest of the world be ready for a female President. The question should be, whether is the US ready for a female President.
post #7 of 18
You took the words right out of my mouth!
post #8 of 18
Very well-put bumpy. As against the current administration as I am, at least we have women like Condy Rice getting as far high up the political ladder as women have ever been in the "progressive" US!
post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by bumpy
From the Iron Ladies Golda Meir (once described as the only man in the Israeli cabinet) to the more famous Margaret Thatcher of UK, to the largest democracy in the world India, who had in the past elected Indira Gandhi to be Prime Minister and more recently almost had Sonia Gandhi to be their Prime Minister but controversy over her being a foreign born Prime Minister culminated in her declining the Prime Minister post, the world has seen and elected female leaders.

Even Muslim nations, which has been lambasted in the West for their treatment of women have had female leaders. From Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan (elected twice), to the more recent case of Indonesia who was lead by Megawati until her lost in the recent elections. In fact, there was wide spread street protest in the Islamic nation of Indonesia initially because the post of Presidency was given to a man who was the head of the largest religious organisation in the country rather than to her. The protest resulted in the compromise of her being named the VP and her taking over a short while later when the President stepped down.

Let us not forget nobel prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi of Myanmar who is the head of their democratic movement against the military junta.

From Ireland to India, Israel to Indonesia, Philippines to Pakistan, New Zealand to Norway, and of course good ol' Canada, these are just some of the countries that have been lead by female President/Prime Minister.

Given the continued opposition to ERA (although it has been argued that the courts "activism" has achieved much of the main goals of ERA thus removing its need), the question is not whether would the rest of the world be ready for a female President. The question should be, whether is the US ready for a female President.
Really well thought out and put, you should send that to like the NY times opinion page. I am serious.

YEah I have often thought the US, while publically have a progressive slant, and sincerely having such in general, also has weird mental blocks against a woman in power. Woman tend to sabatogue each other for instance. The HP CEO who just got canned, the foremost canner was a female about the same age, on the board.

I personally find women too competitive with one another, and like blacks killing blacks, they tend to put each other down. Not leave that job to the men! I hate to say this!
I see it at work, I would rather have a male supervisor most of the time! I have had more problems with women than men at work! Weird huh?

WE are a young country, and culturally young. I am sure some of this is even just naivete. But stil if the right woman came along, a unique leader, I can see it shifting. Maybe not today, but not too far off.
post #10 of 18
Go Bumpy!!!



Robin Williams pondered this question years ago. I believe he said "There would be no wars, just intense deliberations every 28 days."
sorry - I guess I'm in a joking mood today.
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Rockcat
Go Bumpy!!!

Robin Williams pondered this question years ago. I believe he said "There would be no wars, just intense deliberations every 28 days."
sorry - I guess I'm in a joking mood today.
LOL, leave it to Robin Williams....
post #12 of 18
Some of the early buzz on the next election mentioned Condaleeza Rice vs. Hillary Clinton. Could be interesting, 2 very smart, very powerful women.
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by bren.1
Some of the early buzz on the next election mentioned Condaleeza Rice vs. Hillary Clinton. Could be interesting, 2 very smart, very powerful women.
I don't see Joe six pack voting for either of those two!
A third party candidate would win then.
post #14 of 18
I think Condaleeza Rice would make a great President.
I wouldn't vote for Hilary Clinton for garbage collector.
post #15 of 18
It's my opinion that our president absolutely MUST have extensive, honorable military experience in order to be our Commander in Chief. Obviously, that isn't happening now (or we probably would not have run willy-nilly into Iraq). If there was a female presidential candidate with this sort of background, all the more better!!!
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by bren.1
Some of the early buzz on the next election mentioned Condaleeza Rice vs. Hillary Clinton. Could be interesting, 2 very smart, very powerful women.
Now that's something I'd love to see.

Women are in the "pipeline" to high office. Women out number men in law school for example, are equally educated and are closing the wealth gap. It will happen!!! andI can't wait!!!
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by eburgess
Now that's something I'd love to see.

Women are in the "pipeline" to high office. Women out number men in law school for example, are equally educated and are closing the wealth gap. It will happen!!! andI can't wait!!!
I've heard that, that women are outnumbering men in academia and doing better overall! That is wild.
post #18 of 18
Thanks for the compliments on my post. This kitty is blushing.

Want to point some stuff out. With regards to HP, Carly Fiorina would have been fired if Carly was a Carl. The merger with Compaq was widely opposed by many shareholders of HP. What caused her to be fired was not so much the memo or the flight of various top HP executives or Fortune magazine front page article attacking her that came out a few weeks before she was fired. It was the simple case that she failed to deliver the earnings promised.

As for academia, it is still dominated by men. There may be more females attending college than men but that have not translated to more female professors. The reason is due to the structure of universities/college. Upon receiving their PhD, the people have about a few years (about 7) to publish materials and do research, and the universities will decide whether to let go or put the person on tenure track. The problem is that those 7 years are the main child bearing years. So there is a push to introduce greater flexibility.

This push to flexibility is very important. I have often argued that women should not have to choose between careers and having a child. Why should women have to change so as to succeed in the system. Why cannot the system change to allow women to retain their identity and be successful.
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