Riddle 13?

Are the other people in the car that are “smokingâ€, smoking cigarettes? Or is smoke literally coming off their bodies? Or is the smoke coming from some other source?

The “non-smoking†car. Does that mean that you canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t smoke cigarettes?

The thing that changed physically about the person: was the change internal or external or both? Was the change a result of the smoke? Or was the change a result of the source of the smoke?

If the man HAD died, would it have been homicide? Suicide? Natural causes? Accident?

OK, I need to shower now. Ack! Running out of time! See you this evening, if yaâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ll havenâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t gotten it before I can come back to this!!!

Are the other people in the car that are “smokingâ€, smoking cigarettes? Yes.
Or is smoke literally coming off their bodies? No.
Or is the smoke coming from some other source? No.

The “non-smoking†car. Does that mean that you canâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]t smoke cigarettes? Yup.

The thing that changed physically about the person: was the change internal or external - yes (sorry but that's not really a yes or no question so I had to answer rather vaguely)
or both? no
Was the change a result of the smoke? No
Or was the change a result of the source of the smoke? No

If the man HAD died, would it have been homicide? No.
Suicide? Yes.
Natural causes? No.
Accident? Yes.

does this mean that if the man had died he would have accidentally committed suicide? I think Obi what Obi was asking was if the man HAD died, would he have been murdered, would it have been suicide, etc. And yes, it would've been suicide, but not accidental.

was his purpose fullfilled to his expectations? Yes.

would he have committed suicide because of something that happened as a result of the physical change? Yes.

would he have committed suicide because of something that happened on the train? Yes.

It's kind of hard to answer these questions because you have to think of the potentials in the question: IF he would've been in a non-smoking car, he WOULD'VE died. Ya know?

HEY! I'm at work but I had to respond. My question was too a yes or no. It was three questions in series. Was the change external or internal or both. I didn't want to take up too much space or I'd have written: Was the change external? Was the change internal? Was it both? So, it wasn't both, but was it external? or internal?

So, it wasn't both, but was it external? or internal?

I think the reason I was bratty with your question is because it's hard to say. I guess I would say yes to it being external and no to it being internal? That's a hard question to answer.

did he have an operation in switzerland to cause the physical change?

if yes...

was his surgery cosmetic?

was his surgery correctional? (like, open heart surgery?)

was he a "he" when he got to Switzerland? (hehe)

Did the physical change occur in Switzerland or on the train?

Was the physical change on or within the torso? On or within the head? On or within the arms and hands? On or within the legs and feet? Did it involve internal organs? The "on or within" bit is due to the confusion over external or not.

He would have committed suicide if on the non-smoking car . . . .: Is the fact that you can smoke or not smoke in each car of relevance to the riddle? Is there an important difference, other than the ability to smoke or not smoke cigarettes, between the smoking and the non-smoking car?

Is anyone else on the train besides him of relevance to the riddle?

I like that question that SharonKay posed, about whether or not he got a sex change. It would answer the confusion over whether it was an external or internal change admirably.

Waaaaiiiiit. Um, was there a person on the non-smoking car that, if the man had seen this person, or if they had seen each other (thatâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s two questions!!), would have caused our man to commit suicide?

Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ve got the beginnings of an idea. Which you may have to crush, depending on your answer. Right now Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m thinking something rather bizarre, and just for kicks (mine and everyone elseâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s) I will suggest it: Was the man a she who fell for a woman, got a sex change in Swizterland (and wouldâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ve committed suicide if it failed), got on the train, but unbeknownst to our new man (dun-dun-duuuuun) the woman she fell for was on the non-smoking train and had ALSO gotten a sex change. So they were right back where they started! Ack! And he would have killed himself in his agooony (see Bugs Bunny for how to say agony) if he had seen her . . . I mean him. This is probably wrong, but it makes a great story!

Did the other people in the non-smoking cars die suddenly? No.

Did the people in the non-smoking cars bleed when they died? No.

Did they die from trauma? No.

Did they die from a bomb explosion? No.

Did they die from carbon monoxide poisoning? No.

Did only those in non-smoking cars die? No one died. I know that's not a yes or no answer, but if I answer either yes or no then I'm lying.

Was the man responsible for the other people's deaths? N/A

Did he go to Switzerland to withdraw money from a Swiss account? No.

Is he married? No, or at the very least not important.

Did he recently start smoking on the trip? No.

Did his wife smoke (if he was married?) N/A

Did he order someone else to kill those on the train? N/A since no one died.

did he have an operation in switzerland to cause the physical change? Yes.

if yes...

was his surgery cosmetic? As in, something like a face lift or something else otherwise frivolous? If that's what you're asking, then no.

was his surgery correctional? (like, open heart surgery?) I would say it's correctional, so yes.

was he a "he" when he got to Switzerland? (hehe) No.

Did the physical change occur in Switzerland or on the train? In Switzerland.

Was the physical change on or within the torso? No
On or within the head? Yes
On or within the arms and hands? No
On or within the legs and feet? No
Did it involve internal organs? No
The "on or within" bit is due to the confusion over external or not. Thanks! That does help!

He would have committed suicide if on the non-smoking car . . . .: Is the fact that you can smoke or not smoke in each car of relevance to the riddle? Yes.
Is there an important difference, other than the ability to smoke or not smoke cigarettes, between the smoking and the non-smoking car? No.

Is anyone else on the train besides him of relevance to the riddle? No.

I like that question that SharonKay posed, about whether or not he got a sex change. It would answer the confusion over whether it was an external or internal change admirably.

Waaaaiiiiit. Um, was there a person on the non-smoking car that, if the man had seen this person, or if they had seen each other (thatâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s two questions!!), would have caused our man to commit suicide? No.

Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ve got the beginnings of an idea. Which you may have to crush, depending on your answer. Right now Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m thinking something rather bizarre, and just for kicks (mine and everyone elseâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s) I will suggest it: Was the man a she who fell for a woman, got a sex change in Swizterland (and wouldâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]ve committed suicide if it failed), got on the train, but unbeknownst to our new man (dun-dun-duuuuun) the woman she fell for was on the non-smoking train and had ALSO gotten a sex change. So they were right back where they started! Ack! And he would have killed himself in his agooony (see Bugs Bunny for how to say agony) if he had seen her . . . I mean him. This is probably wrong, but it makes a great story! It's very wrong but interesting.

So Obi how does it feel to be on the other side, asking the questions?

It's fun!!

And your answer leads me to: was the correctional surgery performed on his eye(s)? His nose? Mouth? Teeth? Throat? Ears? Other bit?

If on the non-smoking car: would it be the fact that there is no smoke that would cause him to commit suicide? If yes, would the suicide have been prevented by a physical effect of the smoke, or a mental/emotional effect? Or would it be the fact that there are no cigarettes that would cause him to commit suicide?

Ack! Must go to the dojo now!

And your answer leads me to: was the correctional surgery performed on his eye(s)? Yes
His nose? No
Mouth? No
Teeth? No
Throat? No
Ears? No
Other bit? Is there anything left? Lol, no.

If on the non-smoking car: would it be the fact that there is no smoke that would cause him to commit suicide? No
If yes, would the suicide have been prevented by a physical effect of the smoke, or a mental/emotional effect? N/A
Or would it be the fact that there are no cigarettes that would cause him to commit suicide? No

Ack! Must go to the dojo now! Have fun!

So, can we take it then that the correctional surgery was to improve his vision?

And the only important difference between the two cars is the smoking vs. non-smoking part. And the presence of smoke has no physical or mental/emotional effect. And no other people on the train are relevant. For crying out loud . . . what the heck? All right.

Is the presence of smoke in the car heâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s in important/relevant?
Is the presence of cigarettes in the car important/relevant?
Is the presence of matches, or lighters or fire in the car important/relevant?
No other people are important, but was there an animal on the train that was important?
Are there emergency sprinklers, or another water source in either car of importance?
Is what the man is wearing important?
Is the man's occupation important?
Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m starting to think that the reason Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m so stumped is because of what you said earlier, about how this would never happen. My brain is trying to come up with something possible!

So, can we take it then that the correctional surgery was to improve his vision? YES.

And the only important difference between the two cars is the smoking vs. non-smoking part. Yup.
And the presence of smoke has no physical or mental/emotional effect. Yup.
And no other people on the train are relevant. Correct. Except let me put it this way - if he had been the only person in the smoking car, he still would've killed himself. So other people are somewhat relevant... it's just that they didn't kill him or poison him or anything.
For crying out loud . . . what the heck? Hey you've done well so far!

Is the presence of smoke in the car heâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]s in important/relevant? No.
Is the presence of cigarettes in the car important/relevant? Yes.
Is the presence of matches, or lighters or fire in the car important/relevant? No.
No other people are important, but was there an animal on the train that was important? No...
Are there emergency sprinklers, or another water source in either car of importance? No.
Is what the man is wearing important? No.
Is the man's occupation important? No.
Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m starting to think that the reason Iâ€[emoji]8482[/emoji]m so stumped is because of what you said earlier, about how this would never happen. My brain is trying to come up with something possible! Sorry! When the puzzle is solved, you'll see what I mean about it never happening!

Is the brand of cigarette important?

Does the man SEE something that makes him not kill himself?

Like he's reading a pack of cigaretts and it says "you've come a long way baby" and it makes him not kill himself??

Don't ask... I think its my headache talking.

Is the brand of cigarette important? No.

Does the man SEE something that makes him not kill himself? Yes.

Like he's reading a pack of cigaretts and it says "you've come a long way baby" and it makes him not kill himself?? Ha ha, no!

Don't ask... I think its my headache talking. Ouch! Hope it goes away soon!

Does the man see a long lost love in the smoking car and had he not been there he would not have seen her?

Does the man see an ad that makes him not kill himself?

If this surgery is to improve his vision:

did he have surgery to improve limited vision?

was he blind before the surgery?

was the state of his eyes troubling enough to him to consider suicide if it didn't work?

You answered yes earlier that his purpose had been fullfilled to his expectations, so should we take that to mean that whatever vision correction he had was successful?

maybe he was made fun of as a kid for his thick coke bottle glasses and wanted to kill himself if the laysik didnt work, lol