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post #1 of 147
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Live long and prosper!

And while you're doing that, welcome to the new (improved) thread for the television program Enterprise and all other Star Trek serials!


Do not fear posting to this thread. We are friendly to all species. You will neither be eaten nor imprisoned! (Well, not right away.) All observations are welcome. Thank you!


post #2 of 147
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For those of you who posted to the other thread I'd started relating to this subject, I'm sorry: It's gone. What the thread-starter starts, the thread-starter can take away; and I did, so the other thread is now just part of the cosmos.

Fear not! I shall not delete this thread! That other thread had a misleading title, thanks to me, so visitors were few and far between (which is all right in deep space but not here at The Cat Site).

Thank you for your understanding. Okay, if you don't understand I'll repeat: I'm sorry!

post #3 of 147
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"Against T’Pol’s protests the Enterprise pays a visist to an ancient Vulcan spiritual sanctuary. Archer soon discovers, however, that they may have wound up landing into the middle of an interstellar Pandora’s Box when they discover the site taken over by a paranoid and highly excitable race of aliens."


post #4 of 147
Dude! I sure wish you had moved our old comments over here, otherwise we will have that T'Pau / T'Pol discussion again! :tounge2:

Nice piccy, are they watching Porthos (it is Porthos, isn't it?) run off "where no dog has gone before"?

Got one of the rest of 'em?

Heard they are reviving the Andorians next week, from original Trek. Blue skin, white hair, antennas. Should be interesting, since Klingon makeup has changed so much - Romulans, too, now that I think of it - to see how close the Andorians are. Saw it in the trailer, so I don't think this is a spoiler . . .
post #5 of 147
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Your wish is my command! (Well, just this once anyway.) Here are five more photographs of Enterprise activities. Mind, these images are hosted at Virtue.nu Hosting: That web site is "down" about half the time, but it's free!

For good information about all things Star Trek, check out STARTREK.COM: The Official Star Trek Web Site!.


post #6 of 147
Ok , I have no idea what you guys are talking about....but hey, I'm not even sure what planet Im on so waht can be expected!!!! ha ha ha (you know me, just can't resist a poll!!)
post #7 of 147
Hey, Joe:

FYI for the future: Anne could have helped you to merge the 2 threads, so that our previously made comments could have been preserved.

Although I understand your intentions, I can see the value in having a Prime Directive.

Well, no matter, I will continue to add my weekly commentary to all things Trek here.
post #8 of 147
I love the fact that Archer's dog (he's a beagle isn't he?) is named after one of the "3 Musketeers". I think it suits the adventures he will go on. A ship really isn't a home unless there is a pet. They need cats though - what if they are invaded by rat like aliens - who'll save them then?
post #9 of 147
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Deb, you're right: I'd have a lot of explaining to do if a Prime Directive was in place here. It's all the fault of Enterprise, as I've fallen under Archer's influence! *Looks around to see who else he can blame.* Thank you for sticking with our new thread!

Bod Lover, you are not alone! I, too, have no idea what I'm talking about. By the way, I'm from Jupiter.

Ady Marie, I agree a cat is needed on all conveyances. Data (sometime in the future) will see this need as well, hence Spot. My feline friends Michaela and Tonya have already volunteered to form a posse commitatus of companion animals for future space-flight endeavors.


post #10 of 147
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More photographs, that is:


post #11 of 147
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Um, yeah:


post #12 of 147
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Here's the last of the pictures!


post #13 of 147
I just reread an interview with Rick Berman (current guru of all things "Trek") published earlier this summer in TV Guide. Here is the excerpt:

TVG: Wasn't this character originally envisioned as T'Pau, the younger version of the Vulcan seen in the original series?

RB: That's not the case anymore.

Case closed. Now, about that theme song....apparently Star Fleet in the future has funding for a better orchestra.

And Joe, could you repost Data's Ode to Spot? I thought it would be around awhile and hadn't copied it yet. (nudge, nudge).
post #14 of 147
Well, it looks like the Andorians have better hair cuts this time around - though actually most of them have better hair cuts this time around! The antennae look more real and the skin looks better too. Makeup has sure come a long way, probably to accommodate all those sci-fi series that have to do it every week these days.

My how times change! lol
post #15 of 147
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Ode to Spot

by Commander Data

Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature,
An endothermic quadruped carnivorous by nature.
Your visual, olfactory and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defences.

I find myself intrigued by your sub-vocal oscillations,
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents:
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counter-balance.
And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion
It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

Oh Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array;
And though you are not sentient — Spot — and do not comprehend,
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.

(Star Trek: The Next Generation, episode "Schisms")

post #16 of 147
This came in my daily e-mail trivia today:

What was the title of the very first show in the first season of Star Trek?Â:censor:

Charlie X
The Man Trap
Where No Man Has Gone Before
post #17 of 147
Sorry to do it this way, but I didn't want the answer right under the question and I thought this would make enough of a gap.

Just imagine the music the Jeopardy in here . . .

Or perhaps Millionaire . . .

Anyone want to phone a friend?

Is that your final answer?

According to that newsletter, the first show in the first season of original Star Trek was "The Man Trap".
post #18 of 147
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So, like, who was the trapper? And whom did he/she trap?

Given the way things were in the '60s, I'm assuming it was a "she" who did the trapping. But maybe not, eh?


post #19 of 147
Is it true that Quark's place on DS9 used to be a do-nut shoppe run by a Vulcan named T'Pot who got in dutch with the family because she allowed no T'Ping or T'Bac ???
post #20 of 147
Although "The Man Trap" was indeed the first ever aired episode of original Trek (and it just aired on the Sci Fi channel Friday night), "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was actually the 2nd pilot filmed. They weren't aired in the order they were filmed.

A little extra trivia bang for your buck.
post #21 of 147
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I recall seeing DeForrest Kelly (sp?) in an episode of Perry Mason. I'm wondering: Which other Star Trek cast members appeared on television programs before Star Trek was launched?

post #22 of 147
I haven't searched the fimography yet, tho' I will, because I'm curious now.

But William Shatner was on The Twilight Zone, twice I think.

And DeForrest Kelly used to make westerns. Old black-and-white spaghetti westerns kind of thing. He was pretty good looking back then too, though he never quite became a leading man.
post #23 of 147
Shatner was also in some show called "The Lieutenant", I think. That was where he hooked up with Roddenberry.

Joe, go rent some of these original episodes. If you want some recommendations, ask.
post #24 of 147
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Deb, I'd appreciate some recommendations! (Anything but that episode about the overgrown dust-bunnies, as it's been hyped beyond all merit in the years since it aired.)

I personally like episodes with strange yet visible aliens, as opposed to off-camera booming voices or actors wearing togas, but I've no idea regarding titles of episodes et cetera. Thank you!


post #25 of 147
Among my favorites are: "The City on the Edge of Forever" (no aliens, per se, but a young Joan Collins), probably the best episode.

Also, "Journey to Babel", featuring Spock's parents.

I also like "The Doomsday Machine", a good story about obsession.

Those are a few favorites.
post #26 of 147
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Thanx for the titles! I'll go where no Mr. Cat has gone before (at least not in a very long time): the video store. Mind, I've one of their "membership" cards (Blockbuster); but I go to the (free) library for videos. However, in order to comply with the Prime Directive (or something), I'll hit the video store and see what's what.

Now, here's something completely different: Yahoo! Clubs felinetrekphase2. They've combined cats and Star Trek! Okay, so here's what I learned:

"I was informed recently that Lt. Barkley (Dwight Shultz [sp?]) had a cat named Neelix in Star Trek: Voyager. I don't know the details because I didn't care for Star Trek: Voyager at all. And I don't know how/why Barkley ended up on the Voyager — don't care, either.

"I've always wondered about the cat Miles O'Brian adopted (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine). There was this great episode where Miles was sent in to spy on some ring and he ended up really liking and caring for the guy he was supposed to be spying on. The guy had a cat and Miles ended up taking the cat back to the station with him. It kind of looked like a big fluffy Maine coon.

"On the original Star Trek there was Isis, Gary 7's partner; the alien Sylvia who changed herself into a big black cat and in her true alien form was a very bad-looking chicken string-puppet."

So, anybody have anything to add to this Star-Trek/Felis-catus information?

post #27 of 147
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Okay, my favorite "space" character of all time isn't even an official Star Trek dramatis persona. She's Delenn, ambassador from Minbar on Babylon 5.

I really miss her and Babylon 5. I hope the low-life scum who moved that program to cable all burn in hell. And that's the nicest thing I can think of to say about them. (Obviously, I've not entirely integrated Delenn's compassionate personality into my own.)

Mira Furlan, who played Delenn, lived in her native Yugoslavia until 1991. Furlan — famous in her country as an actor in cinema, television and theater — refused to join in the official ethnic-hatred campaign; and that decision lead to her persecution by local and national authorities. She thus came to the U.S.A. with her husband, a film director.

I always liked Delenn's courteous and highly-principled efforts to mitigate for peace and understanding; and her personal and professional difficulties which ensued due to her relationship with a Terran (Sheridan) were fascinatingly complex.

post #28 of 147
Anyone see Entertainment Tonight last night? Their cover story was on Nimoy & Shatner. The have put out a video called "Mind Meld: Secrets behind the Voyage of a lifetime". The following is an exerpt from Bill Shatner's web site about the video available Nov 6 on http://www.williamshatner.com/

"These two stars have arguably embodied the brightest icons in the sci-fi universe; Shatner as
passionate Captain James T. Kirk, and Nimoy as logical minded, half Vulcan Mr. Spock. Now, in
an unprecedented candid conversation at Nimoy's Beverly Hills home, these two icons of popular
culture share with each other, and the viewers, the behind-the-scenes adventures of one of the
greatest franchises in entertainment history. They discuss:
The Phenomenon - How Star Trek meaningfully changed their careers, their very lives.
The Creative Battles - The pressures of making a landmark weekly series. The challenges of bringing back Star Trek as a movie franchise.
The Original Crew - Rivalries, jealousies and conflicts between the original cast and creators.
The Personal Impact - Pressures on their families and friends. Struggles with personal demons and addictions.
The Final Frontiers - Lives reviewed. Facing death. Remembering their Star Trek co-star
DeForest Kelley (Dr. McCoy) and the legacies both men hope to leave behind."
It looks interesting - I hope I can get it at the video store.
post #29 of 147
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Thank you for the excellent information!


post #30 of 147
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MEDES - The French Institute for Space Medicine and Physiology

Space flight duration will increase with the use of the International Space Station and possible future missions to Mars. Therefore, there is a need to anticipate the medical problems which could happen during the flight and to prepare the return to Earth of astronauts. Experiments are organised on ground to simulate the effects of weightlessness to study the adaptation to Space environment and implement efficient preventive tools (counter measures).

Space flight duration will increase with the use of the International Space Station and possible future missions to Mars.

Therefore, there is a need to anticipate the medical problems which could happen during the flight and to prepare the return to Earth of astronauts. Experiments are organised on ground to simulate the effects of weightlessness to study the adaptation to Space environment and implement efficient preventive tools (counter-measures).

The most often used model is the head-down bed rest (-6 degrees below the supine horizontal position, see the picture). This position induces physiological changes similar to those encountered by astronauts during or after space flight as for example :

cardio-vascular deconditioning characterised by a drop in blood pressure when standing and reduced capacity to physical exercise,

atrophy of number of back and lower limbs,

bone changes characterised by a decrease of the bone density of the spine column and of the lower limbs bones; these changes are observed when the space flight or the bed rest experiment last several weeks,

gait and balance changes when recovering.

For ten years, MEDES has been organising bed rest experiments of different durations from several hours to several weeks according to the scientific objectives of the experiment. After a medical check-up, a determined number of volunteers, corresponding to specific criteria, is selected to participate in the study. The study will start only after the approval of an Ethics Committee.

The volunteers will stay in head-down tilted (-6° position) during the whole experiment, without standing (even for meals and get washed); the position upholding is checked by video-monitoring. A specialised medical and paramedical team takes care of the volunteers: physicians, nurses, physiotherapists, psychologists and dieticians.

In order to prepare space flights on board the International Space Station (see below, photo NASA), the French (CNES), European (ESA) and Japanese (NASDA) Agencies decided to join their efforts to organise, 3 months head-down bed-rest experiments on male volunteers (starting in 2001).

The purpose of these experiments is to evaluate the consequences on man of long duration space flights and the efficiency of the countermeasures (pharmaceutical and/or muscular exercise). The resulting data will be crosschecked with the data coming from astronauts during actual space flights.

The first experiment will take place in the Space Clinic (MEDES) located into Toulouse Rangueil Hospital. The objectives of these studies are to assess the consequences of a long duration flight and the pharmacological and physical (muscular exercise) efficiency of preventive tools.

During these experiments, several international scientific teams will realise numerous scientific protocols concerning:

muscular evaluation,

bones changes,

physical fitness,

cardio-vascular systems,


blood and urine assays,

nutritional behavior,

. . . .

The whole experiment is handled under the Fench law for biomedical research.

If you wish to participate to the next Bed Rest experiment phase, which will take place from March to July 2002, please check that you fulfill the following criteria:

You have to be :

- male

- citizen in a European Union member country or of a European Space Agency member state

- between 25 and 45 years of age

- between 165 and 185 cm tall

- a non-smoker

- in the normal weight range for your height

- in good health and on no chronic medical treatment

- highly motivated

If you meet these criteria, you are kindly invited to send a short letter with your name, address, date and place of birth, your body height, body weight, and a short description why you would like to participate.

The address is:

BP 4200

We will send you a candidature file as soon as we receive your letter.

You can also directly apply through our web site.

On-line demands will be more rapidly consulted.

Long Term Bed Rest - MEDES - 200
Questions? Comments? Please contact our Webmaster.


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