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post #1 of 19
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I heard this in the news this morning and wasn't sure if there was a thread about it....

http://olympics.reuters.com/newsArti...toryID=7561492

I think this would be a great law and hope that it sets a precedent for other states/cities. Another thing that suprised me is they say that they banned the declawing of cats 2 years ago. I didn't know anything about that.
post #2 of 19
I don't know why those procedures are done to begin with. Just so the dogs look like some preconceived notion of that breed. Those "cosmetic enhancements" probably were an accident and it continued from there!!
post #3 of 19
GO WEST HOLLYWOOD!!!
post #4 of 19

I just hope it makes other communities/states think about banning such unnecessary cruelty.
post #5 of 19
I don't know about banning tail and ear docking. Some breed standards include a docked tail or cropped ears. Most breeders get the procedures done with in a few days of birth. As for de-clawing, I think that should be left to the owners. Most cats don't have a "scratching" problem, but some do.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I don't know about banning tail and ear docking. Some breed standards include a docked tail or cropped ears. Most breeders get the procedures done with in a few days of birth. As for de-clawing, I think that should be left to the owners. Most cats don't have a "scratching" problem, but some do.
IMO, any surgery that benefits the human, but not the animal is unfair to the animal. I never understood why someone who loves their dog would have their tails or ears cut and I love my cats more than I love my sofa.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Rockcat
IMO, any surgery that benefits the human, but not the animal is unfair to the animal. I never understood why someone who loves their dog would have their tails or ears cut and I love my cats more than I love my sofa.
I never said I agree with it, I don't think he's going to convince the Kennel clubs and stuff like that to change the breed standards
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I never said I agree with it, I don't think he's going to convince the Kennel clubs and stuff like that to change the breed standards
No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think tail docking was outlawed in UK some time ago, yet it is still done by some (maybe it's only allowed to be done by a vet? I'm not sure about that). Anyhow, dogs which used to be docked can now be shown with a good long waggy tail, and it shouldn't affect their placing in the class. Whether the judges actually abide by that I don't know. I know I have seen many more dogs with tails than without over the last few years, and personally I think it is an improvement.

Sue
post #9 of 19
I have always thought these types of procedures cruel, and only wish all of the U.S. would do it. great job west hollywood!!
post #10 of 19
How that can be classed as cosmetic surgery is beyond me!!
post #11 of 19
what a brilliant idea!
anything that involves cruel things getting done to innocent animals just so the human benefits, that is banned, i am all for!
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I never said I agree with it, I don't think he's going to convince the Kennel clubs and stuff like that to change the breed standards
Even if the breed standards remain unchanged, it will be a law. At least its a start!
post #13 of 19
Although this is a good start, IMO, remember that this law affects all of 3 veterinary practices in West Hollywood. They are certainly making a statement, but let's face it...West Hollywood is far from an isolated community. If someone living in West Hollywood wants the procedure done, it's probably a 1/2 hour drive at most to a vet that is legally allowed to do it.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by millyanddaisy
No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think tail docking was outlawed in UK some time ago, yet it is still done by some (maybe it's only allowed to be done by a vet? I'm not sure about that). Anyhow, dogs which used to be docked can now be shown with a good long waggy tail, and it shouldn't affect their placing in the class. Whether the judges actually abide by that I don't know. I know I have seen many more dogs with tails than without over the last few years, and personally I think it is an improvement.

Sue
Sue, the EU outlawed docking and cropping a few years back, but there are still people who do it themselves!
We used to have a Boxer whose ears were cropped, and they were constantly cold. I'm so glad that's illegal here now.
post #15 of 19
No offense to any breeders or lovers of pure breads, but I'm a fan of mixed breed animals. Give me a good old mut any day!!! So I've never understood changing a dogs appearnce to by docking & cropping. How can it be a breeed standard if it's not something the dog is born with?
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by eburgess
I don't know about banning tail and ear docking. Some breed standards include a docked tail or cropped ears. Most breeders get the procedures done with in a few days of birth. As for de-clawing, I think that should be left to the owners. Most cats don't have a "scratching" problem, but some do.
YES tail docking is a "must" in Poodles and a lot of breeds as is ear cropping, BUT the reason it is done is so an inferior dog can be shown. What I mean is if a dogs ears do not stand up correctly - chop them off and nobody will know, same with the tail! If a tail (especially on a Poodle) starts to curl up over the body THAT is a fault so cut the tail way down and no body will know! MUCH easier than trying to breed a dog whose ears are correct and tail is straight!

As for declawing - I HATE to see a declawed cat BUT I would rather see a declawed cat in a LOVING home than a cat WITH claws pts or out on the street!

I used to own a GIANT Poodle 27 inches at the shoulder and 95 pounds (NOT FAT JUST BIG). THAT is the way they USED to look before the "fashion consious people" changed them into looking like Afgans with curly hair. HIS tail curled a bit even though it was docked AND he was a mismark (white chest toes and goatee) but he WAS the Most WONDEFUL dog I have EVER known - he NEVER met a cat or human he did not love!
post #17 of 19
Wow this is such a great news for pets - I hope other states/countries will follow suit, especially in my native country!!! That's why I'm so eager to get out of this country, I'm super abhorred by the way they treat animals.
post #18 of 19
when i read cosmetic surgery i was thinking pet face lifts and botox.

i thought to myself that even in this age-conscious society this is going a bit far!

when i was little i remember asking my mum how you could tell if a puppy with a docked tail is happy or sad as you cant see it wag? cutting bits off animals to make them more attractive is awful, i cant believe it still happens.
post #19 of 19
Just to note, docking isn't always done to benefit humans. Some breeds need their ears or tails docked so that they can safely do what they were bred to do. For example, Australian Shepherds need their tails docked if they're going to be running through thick brush, because they have fragile tails, and the branches would be snagging the hairs, and the tail would be ripped apart. And I don't know the histories of many of the ear-docking breeds, but I read that Great Danes were originally bred for some hunting type of thing (boars?) and they had to dock the Great Dane's ears to prevent the prey from grabbing onto the ears when they fight back.

But most breeds rarely do what they were bred to do, with the exception of some (like hunting and herding breeds). I only support docking if there's a necessary reason. If you're in a safe area, without bushes that pose as hazards to your Aussie's tail, then there's no need to dock the tail. If your dog doesn't have to worry about any wolves grabbing onto your ears when they're trying to protect themselves, then the ears shouldn't be docked. But we DO have to think of the dog's welfare, even if the procedure seems cruel.
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