Very Disturbing

Please go to the website, www.geocities.com/ptinnocents/queso.html. After reading the entire page, then go to board 1. Its about two Baylor University students who murdered a cat named Queso. For those of you who live in Texas, you probably heard about this story. Warning, this may not be for the faint at heart. The board you might find very disturbing, about how a student requested a prayer for the cat and see about the response he/she got in return.

If it dosen't work, then just type in the address. Or go to www.ptinnocents.org

I forgot to mention that after you go to the website, ptinnocent.org, go to cases, then click Queso. Max the cat and other animals are listed here too.

I went to the site you mentioned, and from there I found a link telling the actual story of what happened to poor Queso....I copied that link, here it is...........

http://www.quesojustice.com/

I am outraged at what these people (if you can even call them that) did to this poor cat.....what kind of people DO this???? What kind of evil is lurking in their hearts to make them do something like this????????? If a person doesn't like cats....fine, that is their choice (although they don't know what they are missing) but to hurt one, and torture it for the sheer enjoyment of it....
These guys need to be sent to prison in my opinion, and if I was the judge, the death penalty sounds pretty good to me!
Anyone who can do this heartless, horrible act, would not think twice about doing it to another person either.
Hell is created for people like this!

Nena, I also just figured out what you meant about going to the comments posted on Board 1, I just now went there, and am outraged at THAT too!!!!! This woman was asking a Christian board to pray for what has happened to that poor cat, and she got comments like, "It concerns me that you are so obessed with an insignificant dead #*@* cat....etc.....here is the link to read these responses to her request for prayer...

http://www.geocities.com/ptinnocents...rcomments.html

Thank you Nena for sharing this with us. We all need to be aware of these things.

I'm sorry guys, I can't do it. I can't go read about it. I can't turn on the news without more bad news, and I don't have it in me to go look for it on the internet. I'm sorry, please don't think that I don't care, cause I do, but I'm too tired, and too worn down right now to check it out.

This website, ptinnocents, talks about cases of other cruelty cases in the United States. I've been reading it, and it makes me sick.

Airprincess, I understand.
There is so much bad news out there lately, it is hard to look at more. I almost decided the same thing when I read this thread, but I went ahead and checked it out, and it angered me so badly, I can understand how you feel.

I, too, get sick of hearing about animal cruelty. I wish that if someone hears about it, I wish they really wouldn't post about it. I am not saying this to make people upset, and I really hope you can understand that! I see this every single day on other cat boards. I am sure there are more cases every single day, and nothing is ever going to stop this from happening. You put away one person, and another person will hurt or kill an innocent animal. I guess it's my fault for reading about it, but that is how I feel. There is never any good news anymore. This is really one of the reasons why I almost stay away from any animal related site.

I went and read the board and was amazed that the administrator insists that animals do not have souls, therefore they will not be in heaven. They appear to believe that only man can attain heaven, and anyone who believes cats are to be cherished, should be locked in a nuthouse. It is an interesting and very sad read to be sure.

I just visited Queso's site and am ONCE AGAIN sickened to death with this type of cruelty. AND not to mention the fact that this type of SICK MENTALITY is being defended!!! Somebody please tell me what the hell is wrong with these people!!! If that was my son that did that ... He'd be sitting in a psychiatrists chair or in a mental hospital, that's if I didn't take him out myself before! Of course, the truth of the matter is that no offspring of mine would ever do that. So, does this little :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor: and his buddies get off with a slap on the wrist? Shall we send him out there to maybe rape and beat up a young lady? And if he did will they say ... "boys will be boys?" What the hell is this world coming to?? Maybe we need more animal rights vigilantes to take up the slack where the IGNORANT legal system leaves off!God this has me pissed off... AGAIN.. I haven't calmed down from the work I'm doing ... Well it's back to the printer for me ... More letters to send out! I really hope those little spineless pricks get what's due to them.

One pissed off Guardian!

Christina, I looked for his e-mail address also, and couldn't find one, I even tried joining the boards, just so I could tell him exactly what I thought of his comments, but after about a half hour of trying to join the boards, I finally gave up...every username I put in was supposedly taken...I even put in some ridiculous ones like debbyloveskats421987 and they still said it was taken!! What's up with THAT? Anyway, I really wish I had a way to tell this guy,I beleive his name was Mike George, if memory serves me right, exactly what I think of his "christian" comments.

Yes, The bible states that animals have no soul, per say, like we do, meaning they do not have to know right from wrong, or chose to beleive or not beleive, but as far as them not being in heaven, I feel that is ridiculous, because God is our father, and what father would deny his children their long lost pets, when they get to heaven. He wants us to be happy after all. And in the bible it says that God sees even the sparrow fall, and he cares, so how much more does he care for us, his children. So if he is seeing the sparrow fall, he obviously is seeing the cat who is tortured and murdered. And it angers him.
Now, I will admit, I eat meat, and I don't beleive the bible is against that, they even made sacrafices to God (at his request)of fatted calves, but I also beleive that God intended for the animals to only be killed for food and clothing, or to raise the funds for food and clothing...such as selling furs, etc.....but he also intended for the killing to be done in a very humane way, no suffering, and he also created certain animals, such as cats and dogs and horses, etc, to be compainions to us, and not for food or clothing, or killing in any way.
This is just my beleif, and I am not saying it is right, but it is just what I myself beleive.
I beleive it angers God terribly to see ANY animal tortured or mistreated and they will get their just dues someday.

Debby, I have to agree wholeheartedly with you. I read a part were they were comparing the skinning of the cat to that of a deer. I got mad. I mean. There is a big difference. The deer, cattle, pigs, and poultry were made for us to eat and clothe. Nobody(sane people) would even harm a dog or cat to eat it or wear his furs. I've also read in the bible that we are only to eat hoofed animals. Not furry or paws. I will look it up tonight. I also like ot eat meat, but when it comes from hoofed mammals, poultry or fish. Putting these men or any animal abuser to death would be too easy. They need to be tortured so they can feel what the animals feel. If animals have no souls and can't feel pain, why do they cry. What does it mean when a dog wags his tail at the sight of his master? If dogs and cats have no souls, then why do they use them in hospitals and nursing homes? Did you read the part about the school expelling students who have premarital sex or for lying? But will not expel for murdering an innocent creature(that is not walking on two feet)?

I agree Nena, these animals CAN feel pain, and whether they have souls or not, they can still love, hurt, feel lonely, scared, happy, etc...and it is not right to mistreat them in any way, even the pigs and cattle, if we are going to use them for food, fine, but we need to do it with as little pain and fear to them as possible.

The people on this board believe that if we were to pray for the cat, then we are not christians. That we worship the cat as if he were another god. I wish I could tell these people that most sane people believe that cats, dogs, and other companion animals have become a member of the family. They are family members. And they need our prayers as much as humans.

Here is the quote from the guy who says we are worshipping cats:

The Bible states only humans have souls. We have dominion over ALL other creatures and forms of life. Your idol-like view of cats and nonhuman animal life is HERESY and not Christian at all. Do you worship a golden cat? Would you if you could? It sounds like it. As a dedicated Christian, your misguided animal worship is an affront to me and all other real Christians. Quit hiding under the name of Christ and reveal yourself for whatever Eastern religion you actually represent.

The person who said that is really sad. he obviously has a very hard heart, and Christ would not feel the same way. I guess this person will be accountable for his feelings someday, by God, so there isn't much we can do, but I have a hard time believing that such a hard hearted person would ever enter the gates of heaven, and call himself a Christian.

Don't know if I want to get into this one... But I guess since I'm not moderating anymore, I might as well.

As a Christian, I don't believe animals have souls, and I don't really think they'll go to heaven. I think we'll be so busy praising God that we won't even miss them. However, that's up to God so I'm not going to worry about it too much.

But I do have to agree with some of the posters on that other board that you don't need to pray for a dead cat. Now, don't get me wrong, these people did a horrible, horrible thing and they need to be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. And I also don't see how they can be Christian and do this terrible things. But back to the praying, the cat is already dead. Praying for the cat won't do any good. I think we need to pray for the family (if there was one) that owned the cat, or the people who were feeding it, for the people that were affected negatively due to the terrible actions of these boys. We also need to pray for the boys that did this, they obviously need a lot of help, and who better to help them but God.

And for the record, I have nothing against praying for an animal's health while it's alive. I've prayed for my own pets in the past, and I would now too. But God can't do much for the cat now that he's dead.

Just my two cents.

Dawn, I agree with you in the fact that praying for the cat after it is dead won't do any good, and we should pray instead for justice for this evil crime,and for the people who loved this cat, but I do disagree on animals not being in heaven to a certain extent....yes, we will be very busy praising God, and worshipping him, but I also beleive that my father will be sitting down to his huge bowl of ice-cream that he loves so much, and my mother will be painting her pictures that she loved to do so much, so in my opinion, it is no different to say that when I get there, I will have some time to sit down and pet my lost animals that I have loved so much. But like you said, that is God's decision, not ours, and I certainly respect your opinion.