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post #31 of 41
James Brown, I have just nominated you as the sanest and wisest man on TCS. You are ALWAYS so wise, gentlemanly, and IMO, always right on target. Your trophy is in the mail along with my overdue electric bill!
post #32 of 41
"It's a ridiculously powerful position and without heat it would be a dictator." True, Marge.

Heidi,
I value your opinions! IMO would be boring if everyone had the same viewpoints. I like knowing how 'the other' person thinks. Sometimes it changes my mind. Sometimes not. But surely, I'm a better person for having listened to all sides.
post #33 of 41
Let me clarify.

You all can't get rid of me that easily from IMO in general. I'll still be here, and I do appreciate the sentiments expressed here.

But it seems to me that in this thread in particular the strongest voices here don't want a dissenting opinion or to see anything that disagrees with them. So, OK...I think the thread was intended to be a soapbox for those who think Bush stinks, so I'll bow out instead of getting trampled by standing in the way.
post #34 of 41
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Let me clarify.

You all can't get rid of me that easily from IMO in general. I'll still be here, and I do appreciate the sentiments expressed here.

But it seems to me that in this thread in particular the strongest voices here don't want a dissenting opinion or to see anything that disagrees with them. So, OK...I think the thread was intended to be a soapbox for those who think Bush stinks, so I'll bow out instead of getting trampled by standing in the way.
I just think Bush is youthful in his igorance is all. Everyone has their faults.
post #35 of 41
Now I have got to wonder, If the Tsunami had hit the United States, say Florida or California, would the rest of the world be so inclined to help the US? Somehow I really doubt it. IMO The U.S. is doing what they can with the effort and it shouldn't be an issue as to who pledged what to help those poor people who have lost so much.
post #36 of 41
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Originally Posted by blondiecat
Now I have got to wonder, If the Tsunami had hit the United States, say Florida or California, would the rest of the world be so inclined to help the US? Somehow I really doubt it. IMO The U.S. is doing what they can with the effort and it shouldn't be an issue as to who pledged what to help those poor people who have lost so much.
Oh I think they will, you might be surprised.

I am not dissing Bush - my main point is, he DID give some money to aid the tsunami victims, and that counts for something. Its not like he ignored them and said kiss my ***, you can fend for yourselves - he did pledge something.
My sister is a nurse and she was ready to leave to go there to work and help out but they told her that they only needed forensics for DNA I wondered why they would turn down any help - after all, not everyone is dead, but a lot are injured and they would need all the help they can get!
post #37 of 41
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Originally Posted by Kiwideus
Oh I think they will, you might be surprised.

I am not dissing Bush - my main point is, he DID give some money to aid the tsunami victims, and that counts for something. Its not like he ignored them and said kiss my ***, you can fend for yourselves - he did pledge something.
My sister is a nurse and she was ready to leave to go there to work and help out but they told her that they only needed forensics for DNA I wondered why they would turn down any help - after all, not everyone is dead, but a lot are injured and they would need all the help they can get!
Amen to that! Why would they turn down any help?
post #38 of 41
I would think there first concern would be to be certain that the areas affected will not turn into one huge disease factory- a very real concern. Also with all the devastation, there may not be adequate ways to house all the injured right at the moment. I would think (hope) that level heads from all over the world are on this project and doing everything they believe they can do for the victims. There is so much more going on in these areas then we see covered on the television. I wouldn't second-guess the experts- although they are surely getting tested above and beyond their own capabilities
post #39 of 41
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Originally Posted by valanhb
So, OK...I think the thread was intended to be a soapbox for those who think Bush stinks, so I'll bow out instead of getting trampled by standing in the way.
Well... the thread is titled, after all, "Bush's Ratings at Historic Low" .. though I think the debate has been pretty respectful -- at least that is how it reads to me.
post #40 of 41
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Originally Posted by Kiwideus
My sister is a nurse and she was ready to leave to go there to work and help out but they told her that they only needed forensics for DNA I wondered why they would turn down any help - after all, not everyone is dead, but a lot are injured and they would need all the help they can get!
Kellye, a lot of doctors from our county hospitals were also prepared to go, but were told that they would be of more use here, as tourists are being evacuated by the military and brought back here for treatment. I suppose that means the hospitals there can handle the injured locals. They do need pathologists, though, and possibly epidemiologists. Apparently the search and rescue operations will be halted today, because there's almost no hope of finding more survivors. One plus point is that the U.S. Navy is helicoptering aid into Aceh province in Indonesia now.
People here whose relatives are missing have been told to turn over tootbrushes and the like, or at least dental records, along with missing persons reports to the local police, who in turn send the material on to the BKA (German equivalent of the FBI). There are international teams of pathologists in the crisis region who are trying to identify the dead using DNA, because the bodies are so decomposed and or mutilated that visual identification is no longer possible.
post #41 of 41
Thread Starter 
I totally understand why people don't think the money should be a
"Contest" BUT let me point out, as in life always, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. And if the US wasn't publically embarressed, fewer people would benefit cause I am sure their "12M and more later..." stance wouldn't have changed (I am not saying they wouldn't have given more than 12M but it wouldn't be nuthin' like 350!)

Sorry, I don't think people's suffering keeps Bushy up at night. Nor Condie, or Donny. I think it does haunt mature folk like Colin Powell. NOte after this last fiasco with the amount Coin is now firmly saying he is out of politics (he quit the cabinet but had held the door open to another public post). He said that in his last interview, I don't think the timing was
a coincidence. I think he has had it.
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