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post #91 of 101
Excellent post Cheryl!!

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Originally Posted by DualOpAmp
God did not create cats to be put ahead of humans, but instead made humans to rule them. This is dispicable, you people should be ashamed of yourselves. When do you draw the line?
First of all, not everyone believes this. Not everyone is a Christian. And even the Biblical Scholars agree that translation into English from the original Hebrew leaves many words with loose translations.

Second, if you don't even know what a feral is, how can you possibly judge what kind of social infrastructure they have? Or say that they are "too stupid" to build a society? It's a bit closed minded to think that buildings = society.

What happened to "Judge not lest ye be judged"? Somehow that seems to get lost on so many "Christians" who are quite ready and willing to cast judgement on anyone who doesn't share the same viewpoint.
post #92 of 101
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Originally Posted by DualOpAmp
So, an aminal is put ahead of people? Many people out there have the right to get up and work for their living, but many also do not have this ability. Disable, sued, pregnant, rejected people did not have choice. Theses cats are animals, they're too stupid to build a society for themselves. God did not create cats to be put ahead of humans, but instead made humans to rule them. This is dispicable, you people should be ashamed of yourselves. When do you draw the line?
Cats are NOT ruled by humans, if you believe this, well... Hmmm, God said this and God said that...where you there to hear this? The bible was written by whom...God? Or was it written by people? Our society is nothing but trash. If I could, I would live as far away from humans as I could. Not that I don't like people, just our society. Give me an animal any day. You don't see animals doing drugs, raping others, killing others for greed, taking what isn't theirs and you will never see an animal abusing another. Now, who is the superior being? Humans? I don't think so!!! I must also add, who's fault is it anyway that there are feral cats? Is it the cats or is it people who have caused this problem? It is the fault once again, of humans. I feel bad for both homeless cats and people. Helping out homeless cats is helping one of Gods creations. If you can not have a strong love for all of God's creatures, you will never have a love for people as well. Remember, we are responsible for what we have tamed. Animals are gifts from God and I don't care what the bible says. After all, the bible is a book written by people.
post #93 of 101
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Originally Posted by DualOpAmp
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
Genesis 1:28

As for the society, what are you talking about? I mean as in a society that joins together, constructs cities and places to live, and betters themselves.

Edit: What's a feral?
Thanks for the scripture quote, honestly.

When I say "society", which is the word you chose, I'm meaning the same as what the dictionary defines it as, which is, "A colony or community of organisms, usually of the same species."

I still remain in, what I believe is, "my" feelings of having more sorrow for the cat. Again, I say, God gave us, and we are entitled to, our own "free will". Thanks for responding.

BTW: I, too, am a Christian of God's word as I perceive them!
post #94 of 101
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat
After all, the bible is a book written by people.
My sentiments exactly! Thank you and well said.
post #95 of 101
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Originally Posted by DualOpAmp
So, an aminal is put ahead of people? Many people out there have the right to get up and work for their living, but many also do not have this ability. Disable, sued, pregnant, rejected people did not have choice. Theses cats are animals, they're too stupid to build a society for themselves. God did not create cats to be put ahead of humans, but instead made humans to rule them. This is dispicable, you people should be ashamed of yourselves. When do you draw the line?
Are you sure your an animal lover?

Calling them stupid to me is an insult to them because for me cats no matter what their capable of doing have a lot more up top than some of the people that i work with!.

And as for saying we should be ashamed of ourselves!, if we want to put cats before humans then thats our business, so please don't tell us how we should and shouldn't feel
post #96 of 101
Let me put it this way. People are supposed to be the "superior" beings , yeah right. I have seen many many people do some very stupid things in my life. I have never seen an animal do stupid things. So now, who is so stupid?
post #97 of 101
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Originally Posted by rosiemac
Are you sure your an animal lover?

Calling them stupid to me is an insult to them because for me cats no matter what their capable of doing have a lot more up top than some of the people that i work with!.
Funny part about it is they say an average human will use only 1/3% of what their brain can actually have the ability for. Cats are said to use all of theirs!!!!! What does that say about the humans that are so "Superior"? I'm with you rosiemac
post #98 of 101
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Originally Posted by DualOpAmp
So, an aminal is put ahead of people? Many people out there have the right to get up and work for their living, but many also do not have this ability. Disable, sued, pregnant, rejected people did not have choice. Theses cats are animals, they're too stupid to build a society for themselves. God did not create cats to be put ahead of humans, but instead made humans to rule them. This is dispicable, you people should be ashamed of yourselves. When do you draw the line?
Honey, I think you've landed on the wrong web site and might want to think about joining a site more in line with your own opinions.

PS: Pregnancy isn't a disability and except in the case of rape, it IS a choice.
post #99 of 101
Note to posters: This thread was moved from the Lounge. DualOpAmp, being underage, can't post here, so please don't expect posts from him responding to your reactions.
post #100 of 101
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Originally Posted by Imp
If it was someone you loved that was homeless through no fault of their own and a cat that you loved and you could only choose to help one - whihc would it be?? (reality is i would hope you would never have to make this decision).
This is my first time seeing this post. But in response to this post I just wanted to say that someone I loved would not end up homeless. The people that I choose to associate with, both friends and family, are all wonderful people who would always have someone to turn to, whether it be myself, another family member or a friend. I also know that if I was ever in a situation that became bad enough that I was going to actually be out on the street.. I would have somewhere to go.

It does get a little hard when you think about people being homeless, because I can't help but feel that at some point in their life they made a decision that led them down the path they are on. I am not in a position to cast judgement on them. It is a terrible situation and I am also not in a situation to go save all of the homeless people in the world so I do the best I can by donating old clothes or blankets, or a few dollars here and there for them to get a warm meal. I can think of times when I worked downtown and was on my way to lunch and would pass by a homeless person sitting on the street. I sometimes gave them a few dollars or instead of buying myself a more expensive sandwich, I would buy 2 hot dogs from the corner vendor and give the 2nd to a homeless person. I was just so sad to see them there

As far as cats go... It breaks my heart to think about the homeless cats out in the streets. As much as I wish I could I can't take them all home with me either.

I don't think that I can decide which is worse cats or people because I think that both situations are equally sad. Both truly just need homes and people to love them.
post #101 of 101
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Originally Posted by squirtle

I don't think that I can decide which is worse cats or people because I think that both situations are equally sad. Both truly just need homes and people to love them.

Which was precisely my argument. My belief is that it's an impossible choice. I would try to help both and i do donate to both causes. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and so there are a number of people on this site who have voted they would put cats before people. I respect their decision, i just don't agree with it. I gave up arguing because i think if someone truly believes something then you can't change their mind. Beliefs stem from the utter faith that you are right. You can't argue with that.

I would just hope that if ever i am in a situation where i end up homeless i get the help i need not the judgemment that we so often bestow on people less fortunate than ourselves. Equally, if ever i found a homeless person or cat i would try to help them in whatever way i could.

So there you have it. I still believe it's an impossible choice and there are still people who feel it's an easy choice. I don't think either of us is wrong - we just share different beliefs.
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