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post #1 of 101
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Homeless Cats or Homeless People?

Which do you instinctively feel more sorrow for?

If you don't want to comment there's no need, just answer the poll, and you'll remain anonymous.

I am very proud to say that I personally feel more for cats. People have more options to me. Cats are at our mercy in our world. This is just my own personal opinion.
post #2 of 101
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Originally Posted by ccoccocats
Homeless Cats or Homeless People?
People have more options to me. Cats are at our mercy in our world. This is just my own personal opinion.


Your opinon is very similar to mine.
post #3 of 101
Cats are defenceless.They dont have wellfare programs or job opertunitys.

Cats.
post #4 of 101
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Originally Posted by ccoccocats
Homeless Cats or Homeless People?



I am very proud to say that I personally feel more for cats. People have more options to me. Cats are at our mercy in our world. This is just my own personal opinion.
Mine as well
post #5 of 101
i feel more for cats.. bcuz, they cant help they are homeless..

people could be in a homeless shelter.. or things like that, and its their own fault if they dont have homes
post #6 of 101
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Originally Posted by ccoccocats
I am very proud to say that I personally feel more for cats. People have more options to me. Cats are at our mercy in our world. This is just my own personal opinion.
I second or, I mean, third that opinion!
post #7 of 101
I can't choose as i think they are equally important.

I hate that cats can be put down if they don't have a home but i also don't think you would be homeless if you had a choice - do you? Yes there are welfare systems and other things for homeless people but i believe until you've walked a mile in their shoes who are we to judge?? Thousands of people are homeless and our walfare systems can't look after all of them - there isn't enough money or resources. I see old people sleeping on the streets in winter all the time here and if you don't have family to help then chances are Christmas is going to be a terribly lonely and (depending on where in the world you are) cold prospect. I wish there were no homeless people or cats.

I am very thankful not to be in that situation.
post #8 of 101
I just like cats a bit more than people!
post #9 of 101
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Originally Posted by yayi
I just like cats a bit more than people!
Same.
post #10 of 101
I have to go with people. Most homeless people have mental disorders, they certainly do not choose to be homeless. I believe that it is much harder for a homeless person to surive than it is for a homeless cat. Cat's can rely on their animal instincts and kill birds or mice for food. People will have to resort to crime to survive when shelters are full.

I feel for both of them but I believe that a homeless person has a harder battle to survive than homeless cats.
post #11 of 101
I generally like cats more than people too but aren't we voting on whether to feel more sorrow that there are homeless people or homeless cats?? How can you make a choice??

Lets put it in perspective -

If it was someone you loved that was homeless through no fault of their own and a cat that you loved and you could only choose to help one - whihc would it be?? (reality is i would hope you would never have to make this decision).
post #12 of 101
I kinda have to agree with Imp here.

I feel sorry for both, but I voted for people in the poll. A lot of them have mental health issues or drug problems or drinking problems (and YES, they can choose to recover, but it's much harder to do when you're on the streets with few resources). Shelters are often NOT safe places. Many have no families. And I think it is much harder for a human to fend for themselves when it comes to hunger, thirst, shelter, warmth, hygiene and health.
post #13 of 101
I gotta say both
post #14 of 101
I feel equally bad for both.
post #15 of 101
I agree with both cases... I don't like to see anyone or any animal without a home - unless they're wild and that's where they're meant to be of course. I can't vote on this poll... I simply can't go against either one of them.
post #16 of 101
I voted Cats simply because although I feel sorry for anyone who finds themselves in difficult times, homeless people have many sources of help available to them (at least here in the UK). Whereas cats may find themselves abused or cast out with no means of telling anyone what's happened to them - they can only seek help by turning up at the houses of those who will be kind to them - although they may encounter many who will throw rocks at them along the way.
post #17 of 101
i also fill more for homeless cats i wish i had alot of money so i could live out in the country so i could be a foster mom to cats and i would have enough room for lots of homeless cats.
i would also donate money to the homeless and would give them a job halping me take care of the kittys
post #18 of 101
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Originally Posted by Imp
I can't choose as i think they are equally important.

I hate that cats can be put down if they don't have a home but i also don't think you would be homeless if you had a choice - do you? Yes there are welfare systems and other things for homeless people but i believe until you've walked a mile in their shoes who are we to judge?? Thousands of people are homeless and our walfare systems can't look after all of them - there isn't enough money or resources. I see old people sleeping on the streets in winter all the time here and if you don't have family to help then chances are Christmas is going to be a terribly lonely and (depending on where in the world you are) cold prospect. I wish there were no homeless people or cats.

I am very thankful not to be in that situation.

I gotta agree.......both are terrible and I would help both!
post #19 of 101
i picked cats although in some situations it would be people. I used to volunteer and I worked with a lot of homeless people and really they HAVE options they just don't have the ambition to go for it. No one has to be homeless and I'm not saying it's a conscious choice but I believe it's still a choice. But if you saw your life sliding down wouldn't you try to do something to stop it? Programs and people give money to the homeless who (for the most part) use it for drugs/alcohol. I would never donate to a charity that gave money to homeless people. Blankets, job opps, food, MAYBE.. we have programs where a person is supplied with rent, food, a FREE car, and half a year of auto insurance as well as being set up with a job. You just have to keep the job. And normal people who bust their asses every day and struggle to make ends meet pay for these programs to exist. Somehow that kinda sits a bit weird with me, but I guess everyone deserves a second chance....

But yeah, cats were domesticated by people who then set them outside to breed like bunnies and then no one wants to feed them because it's not their responsibility. I say that these wild domestic cats are society's responsibility and it's tragic that they did nothing to deserve this fate.
post #20 of 101
Cats most definately, for instance, if they really wanted, cats couldn't go out and find a job, a soup kitchen, a shelter. They don't have a voice, they can't offer to do odd jobs for people for money or food. Cats definately in my opinion.
post #21 of 101
Cats up to a point...

I have to say that I feel a lot more sorry for homeless children than I do for cats as they have no choice at all. Add into that the fact that they are being raised in such an environment and let's face it if you know nothing else how are you ever going to aspire to be something more.
post #22 of 101
I feel that if a person is homeless, he/she has the option of scrounging up 2 bucks and going tothe shelter. Cats.. don't
post #23 of 101
People are able to get off their arse and make something out of them selves!!
Cats dont!
And cats are just so lovable!
post #24 of 101
I like animal's more than I do human's as well. I voted for the homeless cats, although I do feel for homeless children, as they are about as defenseless and helpless as animals. I also feel like it's not childrens fault that they are homeless.

So, I'm kind of tossed on this, as I would put homeless children in the same boat as homeless cats.
post #25 of 101
I am assuming the people who are making a choice on this are all snuggled up nice and warm, with a full belly and probably have at least one person in their lives they can rely on. You're probably all eductaed too right??

I can't believe how judgemental some people can be on situations they know nothing about.

"people should get off their asses and make something of themselves'?? Hello - If you have a mental disorder, no family, no support, never had an education and believe yourself to be lower than low (due to the attitudes of most of the population) then how the hell are you supposed to "make something of yourself".

And as for the fact that the educated, loved up, well to do (yes we are well to do whether you think it or not) pay for these things - 'there but for the grace of God go we'. None of us have been homeless, none of us have ever been remotely hungry like these people or even remotely cold like these people and we have the gall to sit in our comfy houses and say they need to do more for themselves?? Donating money to help these people "sits wierd" with you??

And where are they supposed to scrounge 2 bucks from? Behind the couch cushions? Oh wait they don't own a couch. Beg on the streets? How many people ignore them? Go to a shelter? Do you have any idea how many people get turned away because there isn't enough room? Wow, in the UK they get a free car. Shame they probably don't know how to drive it!!!

I'm sorry, i'm sure all of the people who voted for cats are lovely warm people and it is so hard to understand something you have never seen but i am dismayed that you could even begin to choose between the 2. All life is sacred and all of us need help - animal or human - at some stage.

Take a minute to think of all the so called no hopers this Christmas while you tuck in to your turkey and pudding. They will probably be going hungry.

This makes me so sad.
post #26 of 101
Again Imp, I SO agree with you! I made the original statement "I think it is much harder for a human to fend for themselves when it comes to hunger, thirst, shelter, warmth, hygiene and health" -- think about that for a minute. If a cat is thirsty it can drink from a puddle. If a cat is hungry it can get fed by a friendly person, or chase a mouse or bird, or eat chinese food throw-outs. If a cat is dirty, it cleans itself (self contained, no bathroom needed, no shower needed, no clean clothes needed). If a cat needs shelter it can find a box, a dumpster, a hole in the wall, an abandoned car, a pile of leaves, and it's got a built-in fur coat. What does it take for a homeless cat to get a home? Nothing more than a kind person with a bowl of catfood. Try applying that logic to a homeless person -- and please don't say "shelter" (which I address more below) -- if you believe pounds or animal shelters are not great places for cats, agree that shelters are not great places for humans either... at least in an animal shelter there's a CHANCE a cat will find a home. No homeless person is going to go to a shelter (which usually only accommodates them for a set period of time before sending them back out on the streets) and end up adopted with a nice home. Cat don't need jobs and money to make it in this world.

In case you're interested, welfare is no great comfort. It's hard to apply for welfare without a permanent address (at least in NY). Shelters are overcrowded and people are turned away. They are often dangerous (women get raped, items get stolen, people get mugged, illness is spread easily and often the shelters aren't clean). Most people won't hire someone without an address, and if they aren't cleaned up enough. Pan-handling on the street is demeaning and not a fruitful career choice.

While all of you who chose cats are amazing animal-loving people (no need to stop being that way) think for a minute what you are saying. You make it sound like a homeless person has it made with all the options available... but truly think about how it must be... to have no money, be sleeping in sub-zero weather in a cardboard box, with an empty stomach. Add mental illness... jeez, just add a typical headache or stomach ache. Many are disabled mentally or physically (or both) beyond their choice. Even just imagine what it would be like to not be able to get a clean pair of underwear on for a month...

And on top of that, homeless people includes homeless children -- and they have far fewer choices and are even more at risk...
post #27 of 101


Also, I hope i didn't come across as saying that cats don't deserve to be looked after as well. All i am saying is that you can't choose. It's impossible.

Now if you were to ask which i like more - generally i'd have to say cats!

M
post #28 of 101
that is also true, but here in germany we have a welfare system.
ANd its not fair for us people who have to support those ( from our pay) , who instead of using this money to have a nice warm house they instead live on the streets of frankfurt, buying drugs and alcohol.
I know this because i live just up the road from the red light district and from the main city centre and it does break my heart to see people who are huddled up taking heroin, i mean why not use that money to get help?
Its winter and they are using card board boxes as a shelter and huddled up in their sleeping bags with botles of alcohol in their hand.

I know what its like to be poor although i was in a house, we didnt always have warmth, clothes were getting too small for me, i was picked on by my teachers and sometimes i went to school with out food. because my mother spent that money on alcohol.
And if people arent willing to help them selves how can you be sorry for them?
My mother has a lot of support form me and my boyfriend but she is on the edge to choose between life or death. If my mother died i woudl have nothing.
ANd those people did have support back then, its not like they never had support when they were young. They just chose to go onto the wrong path.

But if people dont have a graduation or any school diploma and were ruined from their parents then i will feel sorry for them because im in that situation.
My dad thought about money and not my education so i have to pay it off by doing extra years of my life to make up for the school.
I dont hope to be rich, I just want to be appreciated from the society for my work.


Lots of people actually are wondering why im not down that path, and i dont have friends anymore that can support me, its because i can see that i have strength in down deep inside me and i need to push it up.
post #29 of 101
Did you ever consider that these people have turned to drugs or alcohol because something in their life is SO painful they can't deal with it? The percentage of teenagers who end up homeless because of physical or sexual abuse is astronimical. When life comes crashing down and you end up on the street, it's HUMAN to make bad choices to cope with it... and then addiction takes over.

I don't think people choose to have a drug or alcohol addiction because it's fun. They do it because something painful in their life drives them to it (a lot of times, not ALL the time). Ask anyone who's recovered. There's usually lots of underlying issues.

I don't mean to argue about this -- I just think it's sad when we can't have equal compassion for our fellow humans. Cats may seem innocent, but so are babies when they're born. It's life that changes them.
post #30 of 101
EDITED OUT ENTIRE POST....

I have decided to take out my entire post.... This thread is beginning to really belong in IMO and I think I posted too quickly and never clearly gave my opinion while still giving respect to those of you who think differently...

At that, each of us has our own opinions based on our experiences ect, and no one is going to change their mind~
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