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I came to a descion

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Well I finally made my descion to continue the Kat blood line. No this is no pure bred cat, im tryn to descide between Babi or Hampster. It will be until one of the two is 2 years of age before I breed one of them.

I have now with me the 3rd generation of cats and well to tell the truth im going to continue this line. I have thought about it for months now and made the choice. I will also have a year or so to think more on the matter.

I will pick out cirtain things i like from the cat and choose like that. Who ever seems to be the best attitude, habits, personality will be choosen. It will be hard since they both act the same. All my other cats will be fixed so dont worry about those.


Ashley
post #2 of 29
Backyard breeding is generally a very BAD Idea. Please choose instead to give your cats a long and healthy life.
post #3 of 29
Good Lord! Get your cats spayed and neutered immediately and then rescue a kitten from a shelter. Don't add to the problem out there already of to many kittens and not enough homes!
post #4 of 29
I wouldn't even consider letting one of my cats reproduce unless I had the resources to keep all the kittens. Please don't add to the overflow of cats and kittens. It's so sad to see how many are given up by families just because the cat needs attention. Lousy people!
post #5 of 29
Beyond which, at that close in relation, it's uhealthy for any future cats. Weren't you also at some point thinking of having to rehome all your pets anyway?
post #6 of 29
breeding non-purebred cats is bad.. i think breding purebreds is over rated, to an extent also...i have 2 purebred bengals. plus maybe just.. off the street cats... but, please dont contribute to the un wanted cats
post #7 of 29
Thread Starter 
Everything you say I already considered. Me and my guy talked it all out the things we fargueed over I explained and all is well. LIke i said I have 2 years to consider this and a lot of thought has been going through this. Any way breeds do the same they contribute the the cat population. I have means to my reason LIKE I SAID I have TWO YEARS to considers this.
Please dont make this into a agruement PLEASE.

Ashley
post #8 of 29
Exactly why are you so determined to do this? Pregnancy endangers a cat's life, just like it does a woman's. Who's going to take the kittens? What's so special about these cats that you believe this is a good idea? Also, just because someone else does it doesn't make it right. You have less experience than most of the people on this board, why are you questioning their stance?
post #9 of 29
Well if yopu didn't want an argument, on a site that promotes SPAY and NEUTER, then why the hell did you decide to tell us you were going to start a BYB Program...
post #10 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by golden_moon_luv
Everything you say I already considered. Me and my guy talked it all out the things we fargueed over I explained and all is well. LIke i said I have 2 years to consider this and a lot of thought has been going through this. Any way breeds do the same they contribute the the cat population. I have means to my reason LIKE I SAID I have TWO YEARS to considers this.
Please dont make this into a agruement PLEASE.

Ashley
Ashley,
The one thing you really must consider is that 2 years of heat cycles (didn't check to see if these two are both females, so I may be making a needless point here) without a pregnancy are putting your cats at risk, a risk I don't think you'd take if you realized it.

Having seen a cat through mammary cancer, and another with pyometra, you don't want to put any cat you love through it, if you could have prevented it.

Just something for you to research, and consider in making your decision,
post #11 of 29
I seriously think you should reconsider your choice.

Spotz
post #12 of 29
You post on a cat welfare board that you are going to breed mutt-cats and you are going to get exactly this type of response. There are many people here who have to deal with irresponsible backyard breeders and irresponsible owners every day. They rescue cats who did nothing wrong other than be born into a world where there are not enough homes for them all. They care for ferals who have been tossed into the street to fend for themselves, who no one wants. They work with shelters who have to kill innocent and wonderful animals because there are not enough homes for them, or work with groups who have to choose which cats are most adoptable to save and try to place them into homes. There are literally MILLIONS of cats and kittens killed every year in shelters because of the overpopulation problem in the US alone, and quite frankly that's the most humane way that cats die because of the problem. Others die cold, miserable deaths alone in a big world where no one wants them.

And you don't want an argument? I'm sorry, but that isn't going to happen here. What you are planning on doing is irresponsible and selfish at best and those who have to deal with the problem that backyard breeding programs create simply will not sit on their hands.
post #13 of 29
Just say NO to Back Yard Breeding!!

post #14 of 29
Even if you aren't swayed by the arguments regarding kittens, how can you ignore the post by Pat, that you are putting your cat's life at risk by not spaying her? For every heat cycle a cat has her chance of mammary tumors increases and every unmated heat cycle increases her risk of life threatening pyometra. And pregnancy risks her life and many breeders will tell you the expense of an unexpected, unplanned cesarian section. Please reconsider. Find a breeder near you and help out if you want to be around babies. Or foster for a rescue. But don't endanger your beloved pets. Becky
post #15 of 29
Well said Becky.
post #16 of 29
Ashley, were you the person whose mom's dog just had puppies not too long ago and you were posting questions about the delivery and pregnancy?
post #17 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by golden_moon_luv
Everything you say I already considered. Me and my guy talked it all out the things we fargueed over I explained and all is well.
Please dont make this into a agruement PLEASE.

Ashley
You and the guy that is abusing you? That one that you said you were leaving? While you were trying to find homes for all the other animals you have when you *were* going to leave him? So that has changed I am assuming?
I am very sorry if I am being cold about this... but after everything you have shared here, you CAN NOT expect me to believe that you and him have everything worked out, and that these cats and their kittens have a stable future, Sorry but with me it will turn into an argument...
Just don't do it.
post #18 of 29
I have to second what others have said. You're 17 years old and post about being in an abusive relationship. How about getting your life in order before you decide to take on more responsibility, both financially and otherwise?
post #19 of 29
Ashley

I can see why you are wanting to do this, you are going through a really bad time, your grandmother is also sick and you want somethng positive to look forward to. But decisions made like that when we are all emotional are usually bad ones, and I am sure that you will feel differently when you think about it rationally. Don't worry - we are all here for you and feel free to post whatever you like. Let us know how you feel a little down the line, and remember that often, changing your mind is not a sign of weakness but of strength of character and maturity.
post #20 of 29
After spending the last 23 years thoroughly researching not only the basics of animal husbandry and genetics but also the appropriate care and other issues around breeding cats, I must say I am appalled to read of your decision here.

While I can certain relate to and even agree with your desire to breed, I cannot and will not sanction this ... this ... totally irresponsible choice.

If you are interested in breeding, please, I beg you - read everything you can on the topic, talk to established ~responsible~ breeders and then obtain pedigreed cats which are of a quality to play an active role in your breeding program.

To allow non-pedigreed cats to breed is not the right way to go about this and while I am certain you already know this, I just think you need to hear it from someone who has been down this road already.

Please reconsider. And if you can't/won't/don't reconsider, then at least find breeding quality pedigreed cats to work with instead of a line that you cannot hope to trace either historically or genetically.

~gf~
post #21 of 29
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT MAKE YOUR CATS BREED!!!!!!!
ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE OUTSIDE CATS!
my god i had the worst problem in australia my cats kept on breeding and we just had to keep all of them because nobody wanted them!
we couldnt spay them all because it costed so much and it broke out hearts to bring them to the RSPCA!
I know it would be nice for a cat to have atleast one litter of kittens but please!!!
Not when you are in that situation with your bf!
and i have read all of your other posts about your animals and with your bf.
Do Not let them breed!

And if its true that you are only 17 please dont do this.
I know you still have two years to decide but at 19 what the hell can you do???
Im trying to get on my own feet, by next month i wont be a stay at home mum for my kitty and im looking into getting another cat. I would preferably get it from the same owner where i got my cat from but i think she has spayed her now.
DOnt think about poo that you arent ready for!
I am only saying this because you are 17 and im not much older as im 18 but still please! 1 cat is enough to handle let alone a million.
post #22 of 29
Ashley, it's simple don't contribute to the rising number of unwated cats & kittens! It's totally irrisponsible and you know it.
post #23 of 29
I'm appalled, given your situation at home and the fact that you claim to be an animal lover. Sorry, but I feel this "breeding plan" is irresponsible.
post #24 of 29
Sorry Ashley, but I have to back up here what everyone has been saying.....please don't breed. If you want to be around kittens, foster a family that needs it..........
post #25 of 29
Ashley,

With all your problems at home, your finances in an uproar, why would you even consider bringing more lives into such an environment? You have complained from time to time at the lack of consideration your boyfriend shows you and the cats you do have. Do you even know how vulnerable tiny newborn kittens are? You should have packed your bags and moved back home to your parents, but for some reason you choose to stay with a boy who needs (according to your posts) severe counseling and anger management classes. Then discarding everyone's advice to you, you come back here, to a cat welfare board and post your intentions of furthering your own backyard variety cats because they have "neat traits?" Boy do you flunk cat welfare lessson 101. You can't even see to your own safety, you were worried weeks ago about the safety of your other animals wanting desparately to rehome them and get out of Dodge, and now you want to bring more kittens into your world that you can't provide for or protect?
post #26 of 29
exactly right Hissy.

Listen ashley, Im not against you but please think of the animals you already have now instead of bringing new kittens into the world.

They are just like human babies, Treat them like humans and then you will see how difficult it is and Just dont do it untill you are stable enough, finished your school, got a proper job to raise your little cat family.
If you cant even support them by nutering them then i wouldnt advise you to take any more cats in.
ANd how can you discuss with your boyfriend if he hurt one of your cats before?
post #27 of 29
I am sorry but this is getting real rediculous you havent listened to us once yet........i can't even deal with this....im going to throwup....sorry
post #28 of 29
Ashley, Adding more animals to your life, will not make you feel more loved, I think this is what is behind your plan. You are not geeting either love nor respect from your BF so you are desparately seeking it elsewhere. Please listen to the wise people here, new kittens will not fill the empty space you have in your heart. If you can not at this point leave your boyfriend, at least seek counseling. Make couseling a gift to yourself this Christmas and the coming New Year.
post #29 of 29
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mom of Franz
Ashley, Adding more animals to your life, will not make you feel more loved, I think this is what is behind your plan. You are not geeting either love nor respect from your BF so you are desparately seeking it elsewhere. Please listen to the wise people here, new kittens will not fill the empty space you have in your heart. If you can not at this point leave your boyfriend, at least seek counseling. Make couseling a gift to yourself this Christmas and the coming New Year.

^ she has it right ashley...I wish you would listen to us......but if you are only going to listen to one thing...i think it should be the above posts comment on a xmas present of counseling
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