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post #1 of 17
12/13/04 at 8:32am
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Another college student was found dead this weekend after a night of partying. They are awaiting toxicology reports to verify if alcohol was the cause of death.

http://9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNA...7-c589c01ca7bf

That makes 5 deaths since September at the two major Universities here in Colorado, but apparently there are a lot more that aren't getting the major media coverage.

http://9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNA...7-c589c01ca7bf

Is it just that for some reason it is getting more media coverage, or is it really that there seem to be more college aged (and younger) people being idiots with alcohol and paying for it with their lives?
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post #2 of 17
12/13/04 at 8:33am
Isn't this just hazing? Because if it is, it's a nationwide thing... illegal but you know that really doesn't mean anything to college students.
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post #3 of 17
12/13/04 at 8:34am
My first year of college there was an alcohol poison related death on campus. Its apparently a lot more common then one would think.
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post #4 of 17
12/13/04 at 8:53am
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Originally Posted by pinkdaisy226
Isn't this just hazing? Because if it is, it's a nationwide thing... illegal but you know that really doesn't mean anything to college students.
One of the five here was a hazing incident. 4 of the 5 happened at fraternaty parties, though. This last one wasn't at a frat house, just a party. I was appalled at five in five months, but obviously it's not just happening at CU and CSU, as the second article posted says.

I will certainly admit to more than my fair share of drinking in college, and underage at that, but I just don't think any of us were stupid enough to kill ourselves with it. (Obviously none of us did!) I just don't understand it, I guess...
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post #5 of 17
12/13/04 at 9:11am
If they weren't hazing, what are they thinking it is? Because they still sound like hazing incidents to me, but of course, what do I know?

I read one where a girl had upwards of 15 drinks (I can't remember the exact number, possibly 20. The most I've ever had in one night was 3. After maybe #5, perhaps even #10 wouldn't she go, "hmm, I'm not feeling so great"?
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post #6 of 17
12/13/04 at 9:58am
Their getting younger and younger!.

It's happening here in the UK as well, and some are caught drinking from as young as 14!.

The sad thing is that their starting off this young so whats their liver going to be like when they hit 30?!.

I like a drink but i don't go stupid with it.
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post #7 of 17
12/13/04 at 10:14am
People just don't realise how easy it is to get alcohol poisoning. You keep drinking to impress friends and the next thing you know you are in the hospital deathly ill.
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post #8 of 17
12/13/04 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by pinkdaisy226
If they weren't hazing, what are they thinking it is? Because they still sound like hazing incidents to me, but of course, what do I know?

I read one where a girl had upwards of 15 drinks (I can't remember the exact number, possibly 20. The most I've ever had in one night was 3. After maybe #5, perhaps even #10 wouldn't she go, "hmm, I'm not feeling so great"?
Ari, some of the others may well have been hazing, but they didn't find any evidence in the other incedences that it was anything other than just being at a party and consuming huge amounts of alcohol of their own volition. The presumption is that they are bing drinking in a very short amount of time, so their bodies can't process the alcohol, or purge it when they get too drunk like the majority of people do.
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post #9 of 17
12/13/04 at 10:46am
when i was in school (98-03) people were constantly drunk, like every night, during the day, stopping at bars in between classes.. I didn't really do much of it unless it was a weekend.. I think I had alcohol poisoning once and it was so awful now I watch carefully.. Don't get me wrong I still love that buzzed up drunk feeling just not to the point of 'where am i?'.. And only on very rare occasions (like christmas hehe yay!!)
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post #10 of 17
12/13/04 at 11:32am
I can drink my fair share, but as I'm prone to having my stomach reverse on me, I don't take any chances, and stay within my tested limits. Although, how many drinks do you have to have before you're killing yourself? I mean .. after a point, shouldn't you be feeling really bad?
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post #11 of 17
12/13/04 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by valanhb
Ari, some of the others may well have been hazing, but they didn't find any evidence in the other incedences that it was anything other than just being at a party and consuming huge amounts of alcohol of their own volition. The presumption is that they are bing drinking in a very short amount of time, so their bodies can't process the alcohol, or purge it when they get too drunk like the majority of people do.

So they're just saying that it's not hazing related, even though it seems to have a similar appearance - binge drinking?

If it's not hazing related and it's just people drinking excessively, then that's just tragic. I mean, it could have been prevented - obviously, so could hazing, but this is you doing it to yourself, you know?
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post #12 of 17
12/13/04 at 12:49pm
I'm twenty-eight but I hang around with some college age kids, I'm very close with a younger cousin and I can say this...a lot of kids just don't know when to stop. I usually try to be at parties (And yes all of them are of age) just to make sure that someone is around to take the bottle away when they've had enough. At first they were kind of put out that someone was ruining they're fun but soon they began to realize that it was probably for the best as the one party I wasn't around for someone wound up getting alcohol poisoning and had to go to the hospital. Needless to say, I'm invited a lot that and I am will to be designated driver.
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post #13 of 17
12/13/04 at 1:32pm
It must be a lot of self loathing. I mean sure most of us like to drink, and yes, enjoy the buzz. But this slamming drinks back until your just wasted seems to have this self mutilating
quality, like bolemia or something!

I know this is a sign of age on my part, but this generation concerns me. Who do they look up to?
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post #14 of 17
12/13/04 at 1:45pm
I don't know if it's self hatred. I'm think more along the lines of stupidity. Kids just don't think it can happen them.
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post #15 of 17
12/13/04 at 2:18pm
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Originally Posted by GrayKittenLove
I'm think more along the lines of stupidity. Kids just don't think it can happen them.
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Originally Posted by Marge
I know this is a sign of age on my part, but this generation concerns me. Who do they look up to?
I agree with you both on these two points.

One of the things that just amazed me is that after the first two deaths (one at CU, one at CSU and both during "Rush Week" for the frats), there was a LOT of publicity, and education about binge drinking. Both colleges made a point of making a big effort. And yet, still there are these same type of parties going on, and there are still people dying. I would have thought that two deaths in a week would have woken these people up that this isn't such a good idea.
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post #16 of 17
12/13/04 at 3:28pm
I think it's what is socially acceptable. I was sort of an outcast because I did not party that much. And really the people that partied the hardest are now a lot more successful than me, but maybe thats just from being a generally sociable person? I don't know. But it is totally expected and that's why a lot of people even go to college in the first place.
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post #17 of 17
12/13/04 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by annabelle33
I think it's what is socially acceptable. I was sort of an outcast because I did not party that much. And really the people that partied the hardest are now a lot more successful than me, but maybe thats just from being a generally sociable person? I don't know. But it is totally expected and that's why a lot of people even go to college in the first place.
I don't know, define success. Tom Wolfe, who wrote a book about college campuses, said he doesn't hear the word "Character" in relation to college goals anymore. It used to be used regularly, not now. Becoming a well rounded person isn't the goal. I work at a college and it drives me nuts. These guys are so tunnel vision about life. It's very empty. There are exceptions but not a lot.
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