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A Traitor is About to be Honored!

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A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me. These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343

PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK.
IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE.
post #2 of 9
This really belongs in IMO... Sorry Cheryl!
post #3 of 9
I was a kid when this all happened, but I do remember even back then thinking she was a dillitante (or however you spell it), and then look how quickly she chucked her activism for her leotards.

I do know some of the stories about her visit to Vietnam have been shown to be urban legend though, the slips of paper part has been refuted. The soldiers said directly they never met her. She did go over there, and did get a photo taken on a gun ship. Which was incredibly weird. But I don't know if we can say she is responsible for any deaths.

All that said, I don't admire her as a person. I do think she is a great actress. But as a human being kind of sad and lost.
So while I don't think anyone should hate her, I wouldn't honor her either (Unless it was for her acting...)
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Have you ever heard Bette Midler rip on Jane? It was one of the funniest parts of her show.

Remember all of Jane's workout videos? After all the support of communism she sure seized on capitalism when the opportunity presented itself. And particularly the ferver when she claimed she looked so good because of the exercise, but it came out she had actually had a good bit of cosmetic surgery.

Remember whe was with Ted Turner at the Atlanta Braves playoff games. After the controversy about the "Tomahawk Chop" she held a press conference claiming she "didn't realize" it was so offensive to the Native Americans, apologized, and stated she would discourage it's use and never do it again. Then THAT VERY SAME NIGHT there she was on national television doing the "Chop" with the crowd.

Jane has always been one to seize on any issue of the moment that would get some attention for herself. Once the media attention passed she'd drop the issue like it was a hot rock and run on to the next one. Why anyone would honor her for anything is beyond me.
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Ehh... is not this about 5 years TOO LATE. Most of the 100 women/ men/ inventions etc was done just before the year 2000. And if I remember correctly, she IS already featured in the "100 Women of the Century" back in 1999!
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Originally Posted by CharmsDad
Have you ever heard Bette Midler rip on Jane? It was one of the funniest parts of her show.

Remember all of Jane's workout videos? After all the support of communism she sure seized on capitalism when the opportunity presented itself. And particularly the ferver when she claimed she looked so good because of the exercise, but it came out she had actually had a good bit of cosmetic surgery.

Remember whe was with Ted Turner at the Atlanta Braves playoff games. After the controversy about the "Tomahawk Chop" she held a press conference claiming she "didn't realize" it was so offensive to the Native Americans, apologized, and stated she would discourage it's use and never do it again. Then THAT VERY SAME NIGHT there she was on national television doing the "Chop" with the crowd.

Jane has always been one to seize on any issue of the moment that would get some attention for herself. Once the media attention passed she'd drop the issue like it was a hot rock and run on to the next one. Why anyone would honor her for anything is beyond me.
Yeah she is more flake than traitor. Gosh I wish I could hear Bette go on about her, man I would bet that is funny!!!

Now Bette I would honor....
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YOu know it also doesn't say "Greatest" right? I mean just being a woman of the century doesn't condone her actions.
For instance Time made Hitler her the man of the year in 39. They make a point it's who had the biggest impact, not who they admire. She was the main actress of her time. She was like Julia Roberts with talent (sorry not a Julia fan)
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Originally Posted by Marge
YOu know it also doesn't say "Greatest" right? I mean just being a woman of the century doesn't condone her actions.
For instance Time made Hitler her the man of the year in 39. They make a point it's who had the biggest impact, not who they admire. She was the main actress of her time. She was like Julia Roberts with talent (sorry not a Julia fan)
Speaking of greatest. I thought Time copped out in 2001 when they chose Giuliani over Osama, at least based on their interpretation that greatest means greatest impact.
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Originally Posted by bumpy
Speaking of greatest. I thought Time copped out in 2001 when they chose Giuliani over Osama, at least based on their interpretation that greatest means greatest impact.

I totally agree, that was political. I mean Osama is the man of this year too if you ask me ,he decided this election as much as anybody (...sorry... not to lose more friends stating that but it's true...)
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