Anyone have Nostradamus' book?

Found this excerpt and would like to know if someone can validate it?

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos,while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb''The third big war will begin when the big city is burning'- Nostradamus 1654 ...on the 11 day of the 9 month that...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city..and the world will end soon after" "From the book of Nostradamus"

I would expect the terrorists are well aware of the implications of the date, including that one. Probably quite well chosen, since this is a psychological war as much as a physical one.

Boy does that raise the hair on the back of my neck!! That's too eerie for words.

False Prophecy


Claim: A 1654 Nostradamus prediction said World War III would begin with the fall of "two brothers," a reference to the destroyed World Trade Center towers.
Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]



"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Nostradamus 1654




Origins: The turmoil of recent events has us all scrambling, some to look for solace and meaning, others for the terrorists responsible, and yet others for signs that what happened could have been prevented or at least foreseen. The 11 September 2001 attack on America destroyed not only the two World Trade Center towers in New York City, a chunk of the Pentagon in Washington, and caused untold loss of life, it also shook America's sense of invulnerability. No longer do Americans presume safety in an unsafe world.

For some, that realization is an eye-opener, unsettling but necessary, in that a child's blissful unawareness has been replaced (at great cost) with an adult's more clear-eyed view of the world and its sometimes horrifying ways. For others, it spells the beginning of the end, in that they equated an illusion of safety with its reality and thus now feel their world is ending. It is the fears of that second group that are given voice in the Nostradamus prediction circulated on the Internet even before the dust had settled in New York.

The French physician and astrologer Nostradamus (1503-1566) penned numerous quatrains populated by obscure imagery that the credulous have ever after attempted to fit to the events of their times. These predictions can often ring somewhat true in that the images employed are so general they can be found in almost every event of import, but by the same token, the prophesies are never a dead-on fit because the wordings are far too general. Not that this stops anyone from believing in them; our society's need for mysticism runs far too deep to ever allow for that.

Those looking for the certainty of a Nostradamus prophesy come true have been known to sledge hammer the results to force a fit by inventing fanciful translations from the original French, bend over backwards to assert one named term is really another, and (as in this case) outright fabricate part or all of the prediction.

Nostradamus did not write the quatrain now being attributed to him. (One wonders how a guy who died in 1566 could have written an item identified as being penned in 1654 anyway.) It originated with a student at Brock University in Canada in the 1990s, appearing on a web page essay on Nostradamus. That particular quatrain was offered by the page's author, Neil Marshall, as a fabricated example to illustrate how easily an important-sounding prophecy can be crafted through the use of abstract imagery. He pointed out how the terms he used were so deliberately vague they could be interpreted to fit any number of cataclysmic events. (A dissertation on how a somewhat similar-sounding real prophesy of Nostradamus' has been interpreted in a variety of wildly different ways can be found here.)

It appears someone mistook Marshall's illustrative example for an actual Nostradamus prophecy and, not content to let well enough alone, added "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." A fabrication was thus further fabricated.

But that wasn't the end of it. More fakery was piled on in later versions that now included all of the text quoted in the Example section above but now concluded with:



"on the 11th day of the 9 month that...two metal birds would crash into two tall statues...in the new city... and the world will end soon after"




Similarly, another enhanced version incorporates the Example text into a more detailed prophecy:



And Nostradamus predicted this (who knows how long ago):
"In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
Fire approaches the great new city..."
"In the city of york there will be a great collapse,
2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos
while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
third big war will begin when the big city is burning"




Needless to say, these versions are as fake as the first was.

Barbara "la cosa nostradamus" Mikkelson

Last updated: 11 September 2001

just reading that gave me more shivers....
I can validate it but it is strange that it predicted this to happen in an exact time frame (month and day) I wonder what is going to happen next? aranoid3 aranoid2

She is after all trying to duck all the multi-million dollar lawsuits... but TLK once again, you made me snicker....

I didn't say I believed in the prophecy, I just asked if it was valid, and it stands to reason that the terrorists could of used it to their advantage to spook us if it were.

I also heard about this specific piece and how it was a hoax.

If you want real prophecy, look in the book of Revelations.

Originally posted by Debby
If you want real prophecy, look in the book of Revelations.

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Thank you so much Debby for saying this, it is something I wanted to say But wasn't sure if it would have been allowed.
Tiptop, your right how people start things like this & keep adding & adding to suit the circumstances & then pass it over the internet.

Originally posted by My3boys
Thank you so much Debby for saying this, it is something I wanted to say But wasn't sure if it would have been allowed.
Tiptop, your right how people start things like this & keep adding & adding to suit the circumstances & then pass it over the internet.

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You are always allowed to say whatever you want about your religion, and beleifs on here, and I know Anne would agree.

This item was in my e-mail trivia today:

Did Nostradamus predict his own death?

Apparently, he did. The famous prophet, who is credited by
believers with having predicted everything from World War II to
the assassination of John F. Kennedy, is said to have predicted
his death the day before. On July 1, 1566, his assistant said,
"Tomorrow, master" as he prepared to leave for the day.
Nostradamus replied, "Tomorrow at sunrise, I shall no longer be
here." He died that night of an attack of dropsy.


I have no idea what "dropsy" is, we probably call is something else these days. I thought it was interesting because he was apparently rather ill and probably knew he was going to die by how he felt. Lots of people do seem to know when they are at the end. But of course it is taken as a sign of his abilities, not simply a tired and unwell person knowing his own body.

Ok Cat without (hopefully) sounding too dumb I still don't know what that is!!! Explain a little more and hopefully the (rather dull) penny will drop!! hee hee (have mercy on the slow ones here... ha ha)

Debby, I have to say I agree with you about the book of Revelations, I have done some study on it and found it to be very intersting and very relevant!! I actually have a VERY good book explaining the prophecies contained in it!! (VERY usefull ya know!)

Thanks Cat!! Now I get it......(hee hee)

Hi everyone:

I'm sure you'll be getting quite a few more nonsense e-mails like that one before this all over.

There is a really great website that verifies all kinds of information. They listed that one on it within days.

So BEFORE you send any of these things on, please check with SNOPES.COM. Very few things like this that you hear and read are true, but there are some that are, so check it out!

I heard on Fox News this morning that Nostradamus was the most asked for book in book stores. They said the book stores were doing well in comparison to a lot of other retail places.

I tend to believe, like sunlion, that the terrorists used these dates because of the prophecy.