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post #91 of 331
I am so thankful that you and your husband are ok. I know some people in the NY area and I was worried sick untilI heard from that they were safe and well. I am sorry that your husband was affected by what can only be called sheer lunacy and pray that he recovers mentally and that the scars he gains from this tragedy are few.
I am praying for all the people in NY and Washington andI hope they find out who is responsible for this and bring them to justice swiftly.
Stay safe and well !
post #92 of 331
Thank you Barb
post #93 of 331
vjoy, I am a doctor of clinical psychology. My area of expertise is trauma survivors....I have worked with people who have survived horrendous traumas, so I think I am familiar with what your husband is going through.

As Hissy said, your husband is experiencing symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress. He will likely have pictures/memories/thoughts of what he saw and experienced running through his mind for days. He will find it difficult to concentrate and is likely to have nightmares or to have trouble falling asleep. Every little sound or sight will remind him of the event and he will likely have lots of panic attacks whenever there are loud noises or whenever he sees or hears something that reminds him of yesterday.

Also...he is likely to feel numb...like a zombee. He will probably shut down his feelings as an attempt to not feel the terror of yesterday. He may also dissociate...where he feels as if he is in a dream or watching the world through a window. Sometimes, people who have experienced horrors like this turn to drugs or booze or begin to abuse psychiatric medications...so, encourage him NOT to use beer to feel better and not to turn to other drugs to take the emotional pain away.

Finally, he is likely to become really irritable and depressed and to be on guard constantly for a while.

It is important to know that these are NORMAL reactions to a horrific event! Almost everyone there yesterday will be having these same experiences. Assure him that he is not going crazy and is not going to loose it....this is normal.

So...what do you do to help him? Talk, talk, talk. It turns out that the best treatment is to talk in gory detail about what he experienced. Also...research shows that if the person sits down and writes, writes, writes about the experience it will help tremendously as well. The more he writes the better he will be. Make sure he includes his feelings and thoughts during the disaster and his feelings and thoughts now while he is writing. The more detail he is able to include, the more effective it will be.

Also...continue to encourage him to talk to a professional....it would probably be good for you to talk to someone as well. You will likely experience what we call secondary traumatization as you think about and hear what your husband went through.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me or e-mail me. I want to help!
post #94 of 331
Vjoy - no words we can offer can fully comfort you and your husband at this time - but know that we are thinking about you and praying for you.
Please take care of yourselves - take as much time as you need!
In my thoughts...
Deb M
post #95 of 331
When I went back to check the thread it was no longer there...just some replies to it, so I assume the FBI took it off the internet. Apparently it was reported a number of times. I read it at about 2am this morning and it was gone by 10.
post #96 of 331
Debra and Lotsocats

Thank you so much.

We are so stresed here. In Manhattan, there is a domino effect going on....buildings are still collapsing. It is closing in on my husbands work. The building across the street from him just went down. He may not have a place to work. We just bought our dream home two months ago, and if he can't find work in NYC, then we will have to move to God knows where, and I can't drive..... I am loosing it....

My husband did see a professional this morning, and he has been talking about it a lot. But we are both still in shock.

Thank you again.
post #97 of 331
Just got this in my email:

Light a Candle for Unity!

Though terrorists may have struck out at us as Americans, let us come together and show our unity.

Let us show that though our arm may have been hurt, they can not dim the heart of America which rages bright.

On Thursday September 13, 2001 at 10:30 pm EST, walk out your door and light a candle or lantern to show the world that our spirit burns bright. Gather with loved ones or gather with neighbors but let our light burn in the night to show that we are united and that we remain strong.

Please pass this on to anyone you know..print it up and pass it to neighbors who may not have internet access, post it to message boards, clubs, news stations, anywhere and everywhere there is a PROUD American!
post #98 of 331
This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing, but not meant to cause
animosity towards other countries.

America: The Good Neighbor.

Widespread but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television
commentator. What follows is the full text of his
trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the least
appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets
of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
billions of dollars! into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German
technocracy, and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon -! not once, but several times -
and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at.
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India
were breaking down through age, it was the Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
me even one time when someone else raced to the
Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get
kicked around. They will come out of this thing with
their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of

Stand proud, America!
post #99 of 331
I can not believe this is happening to us. I never in my worst nightmares thougt this could happen. This is the worst tragedy I've ever seen, up until then it was Oklahoma, I just can't beleive it. Those poor people, most of them didn't even have a chance to get out. I pray for the victims and their families and those that are working on the rescue units, they have lost many of their own and are searching for them also. It is a day none will ever forget.
post #100 of 331
It snowed in New York City
But the sky was bright and clear.
There was a quake that shook the Nation
One the whole world could hear.

From the Pentagon to Pennsylvania
to where our eastern border ends
There amidst the rubble
Lay our family and friends.

Our freedom has been comprimised
Our children now live in fear
Even though we've been told since Pearl Harbor
that it could never happen here.

This enemy we call terrorist
Tonight, we say to you...
We will offer our prayers, our blood, our lives
to help each other see this through.

We will stand together as a nation
based on democracy
We will pray for those who have given their lives
so that our country will always be free.

It snowed in New York City
in some way, affecting us all
as it covered our streets with a layer of ash
It gave us a wake up call.

Don't lower your head unless it's to pray
Don't fly your flags half mast
Let's show these faceless cowards
that we intend to kick some ass.

Through it all, we stand together
and when the day is done
Our faith will be stronger than ever
God bless us everyone

Tena Bastian
copyright 2001
post #101 of 331
Vjoy my thoughts and prayers are with you and your husband...take care...

Hissy what a moving poem....thankyou

I just wanted to let you know that the whole country (UK) is having a 3 minute silence at 11:00am tomorrow as a sign of respect for the victims and people of America. I know it won't really help, but we are with you, this is the queens order....

Love to all

post #102 of 331

I am so happy and so glad for you that your husband is safe... I think you will need to be strong for him now and very patient. I hope Danielle helps you and your husband recover from this trauma. I am very far away in Portugal, but I am thinking of you as stroongly as I can...

On another note, I finally located last night a friend of mine that lives in NY, she is ok, as her husband and kids...

post #103 of 331
Sandie....that was an amazing speech! It really moved me especially since it was made by someone who is not from the USA.

Bravo to the Canadians! And...thanks to Canada for letting all of the jetliners land and stay there until it is safe to return home.
post #104 of 331
One of my friends maintains an email list that goes world-wide. There were in her box this morning. Hope they give you some comfort

I have no words to express the horror of today. As you know, we are ahead
of you in time and it was as I was about to leave school that a friend
mentioned that she had heard a rumour that a plane had crashed into the
World Trade Centre. We both thought it was an accident and spoke of the
tragedy little knowing how much greater the tragedy was than
we could envision. I got home to find all the kids who were home, and my
dad, riveted
to the TV, watching CNN. No one spoke as we watched in disbelief. There
are no possible words to convey the sympathy and sorrow that we, and I am
sure all decent South Africans, feel at this terrible deed. Our loving
thoughts are with you all.


Hello Chef,

I have been watching, listening and monitoring any news of the terrorism
that took place today. I live in Canada now, but spent 13 years with the
USAF and have a sense of what must be going on within the Branches of the
Service. I feel blessed that by now living in Canada, a country that has
for years enjoyed the protection and goodwill of America that I and (as far
as I know right now) all of the people I hold dear have escaped this
tragedy. My thoughts and prayers are with all of America right now. I will
continue to pray for the families that lost loved ones, those that gave
their lives in the actual act and hope that from this the world will sit
up, pay attention and finally learn to live and let live. It is important
that we all take your advice and the advice of President Bush and "Be Nice,
Nice is Good." I agree absolutely that this act was an act of war, and that
as President Bush stated in his address, it cannot touch the spirit of
America. God Bless you, and us all.

Rayna in Saskatchewan, Canada

Hello Chef,

This is the first time I have contacted you directly and feel compelled to
in light of the terrible events that have just happened in the US.
Australians everywhere are outraged and are at work today feeling shocked
and sad. Our heartfelt thoughts extend to every one of you over there and
our prayers are with you. We are keeping informed of any update in a wish
to feel connected to you all in this sad time.

God bless you and keep you safe. From your many friends in Australia.

Tania Mann

Please accept heartfelt condolences from far away Australia. Our thoughts,
hearts and prayers are with the people of America constantly. Flags on all
our buildings - Government and private - are being flown at half mast as a
sign of respect for all the innocent lives lost in this insidious horror.
As you said - God bless America.

Eugenie Jemison

This is a letter to all my dear friends in the USA. Paul and I feel with
you following the tragedy at the World Trade Center. How can people do
these atrocious acts? It is hard to believe that today the beautiful city
of New York and all the American people are devastated by the act of a few
fanatics. I believe all Australians have support for you all in this very
troubled time. Paul and I send our continuing love and support.

Love from Jill and Paul

Dear Chef;

You are one of my favorite Americans, so I feel I must send you and all
your helpers at WWR my condolences for the senseless massacre that took
place Tuesday morning. As your neighbors, we all have strong ties to you.

We have planes arriving with no accommodations for all their
passengers. Employees from our company are taking them into their
homes. New Brunswickers are donating blood to the Red Cross. We all wish
there could be more we could do if we were closer. Our prayers are with all

Liette S. Chiasson, New Brunswick, Canada

My God, what can I say? Here I am in sunny, beautiful, PEACEFUL, Perth
Western Australia where the worst thing that can happen today is that it
might rain.

My heart breaks for what happened, for everyone affected and for the world
as a whole. What is happening to us as a people? Where has the love of
our fellow man gone? Like the rest of the world I am in shock, unable to
come to terms with the absolute horror of what has happened.

I can't say anything more except that my prayers and heartfelt sympathy is
with everyone.

Colleen Towie

Dear Chef,

You and the people of your country are remembered in prayer. May the
Creator bring great good out of such evil. God bless America and all who
live there.

Gail, Oakville, Ontario

Please accept our deep feeling of sadness for the awful deed that has
fallen on your beautiful country. We are outraged and sad and all my
friends who have enjoyed your recipes wish to extend all our prayers and
good thoughts for those directly involved and to the people of the U.S.A.

With heartfelt compassion,

Catherine Ekvall, Sweden


Our hearts and prayers go out to all Americans everywhere in this
desperately trying time. If there is any way that we Recitopians worldwide
can co-ordinate our efforts to contributing towards the helping victims of
this catastrophe, please let us know. Individually we may not be able to
achieve much, but as a collective perhaps we may make a dent in assisting
in some way.

There is absolutely no justification for such a ruthless act of such
barbarism. Once again, our heartfelt prayers and sympathies to all affected
by this tragedy.

Kindest regards,

Sandy & fellow South Africans

Dear Chef,

I am a long time subscriber of your ezine. I live in Kenya where the US
embassy was bombed in 1998 killing over 250 people. As we follow on CNN
what is happening in your country, we want you to know that our prayers are
with you all, especially affected families. That a human being can be so
diabolical is beyond comprehension.

Lucy Maruti

Dear Chef ,

We here in South Africa send our condolences to all in the USA who have
lost loved ones as a result of the cowardly act which took place yesterday.
It is hoped that the world nations will unite to find and bring those
responsible to justice. Our prayers will be for you all this day.

Douglas Paton

The People of South Africa too are in shock. Our heartfelt prayers go out
to all American citizens and to all those who have been affected by this
terrible tragedy. May God be with you all.

Rose Horner

Dear Chef,

I cannot express the grief we have all felt in our family at the recent
events. It is all too horrible and too mad to comprehend or even
understand. Please accept our heartfelt wishes of strength and peace for
all those who remain and, like us, watch in stupor.
Our sincere condolences to the American people.

Elena MarÃ:censor:a Accinelli, Spain

Please accept, from a reader in South Africa, our heartfelt sympathy to all
of those who have suffered as a result of this wanton destruction of life
and property. God bless America and all its people in this hour of grief.

Hana Viljoen-Stehlik, Stellenbosch, South Africa

I just want to express my sorrow and feeling of grief for all of you and
all US people. I have several American friends here in Italy who are living
their worst days in life and so am I.
God bless America.

Silvia Frangini, Italy

Dear Chef,

We here in Israel are so shocked and heartbroken about the terrible tragedy
that took place in the USA. It is so terrible that so many innocent people
had to lose their
lives. Sadly, we understand so well the anguish and pain of losing beloved
ones and encountering such terrible and cowardly acts of terrorism.
Dearest America, please accept my deepest condolences and warmest support.

Miki Chen

Dear Chef,

Just wanted to say how awful we all feel over here in England. Watching
those events unfold on TV yesterday, the whole of London fell
silent. We've had our share of cowardly acts of terrorism - my father's
restaurant was bombed by the IRA many years ago - but nothing, NOTHING on
this scale. I wish there was something we could do other than let you know
that our thoughts are with you. I think the whole of the free world feels
the same.

Jane Owen

Querido Chef,

Comparto plenamente su sentimiento de tristeza, pena y horror. Me
solidarizo con todos sus conciudadanos y le felicito por la decisión de
suspender, temporalmente, su publicación. Que Dios ayude a esta infinidad
de familias que han sido rotas por la locura incomprensible de "personas."


Ramona Serentill, España

My family, friends and myself here in Manchester, England just cannot
believe what has happened even though we watched the events unfold live on
TV. We have no idea just how the people of America must be feeling but our
thoughts are with you today and for the future.

Jackie Murray

I wish to express my disgust and feelings of sorrow over what happened in
America. Here in Holland we all feel very sad and everywhere people can't
do anything but watch CNN and we are mourning your loss of all those people
and the feeling of horror about what happened. Wish you lots of strength
and faith.

Anda Sprenger

May I add my voice of condolence from the Central Coast, Australia, to all
people suffering such a great loss in the USA.


All my thoughts go from ice cold Norway (which seems even a bit colder
today) to all people in the proud United States of America. Be strong
fellow Recitopians, in time good WILL win.

Roger Mikkelsen

Dear Chef and all Americans,

Please accept our heartfelt condolences on your losses in America
yesterday. I watched CNN yesterday in absolute horror and disbelief at what
unfolded before my eyes, as did all South Africans. Our thoughts and
prayers go out to you all. God bless America and Americans and the whole
free world.

Alva and Les Cunningham, Johannesburg, South Africa

The Bahamas joins you and the American people in prayers for the families
of those innocent victims whose lives were taken away from them in this act
of cowardice - by persons who have no regard for the sanctity of life.

Salome F. Charles


I wish to express my deepest condolences to you and all your fellow
Americans in this horrendous situation. As a human being, I am outraged by
this cowardly act; as a Canadian neighbour, I will do everything I can to
help, including giving blood for the very first time in my life. We have
U.S. members in our Ring - SnowyRecitopia, and our hearts go out to each
and every one of them, and every citizen across the U.S. May God keep you
strong, and may you stay united as this terrible tragedy plays out. Take
all the time you need, Chef, we'll wait for our e-zine. I hope you and your
family are all safe and okay. God Bless any fellow Recitopians we may have
lost, or who may have lost a loved one to these
cowards. May the world rally behind you to give you the support you
need. I, for one, am right there.


Your Canadian Neighbours, The Leverdingen Family, Newmarket, Ontario, Canada

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Certainly, all over Brazil, our people are praying for divine protection to
the American people. God bless America is a sentence in all human minds
now. Please, receive an immense hug, embracing the whole country,
especially the most directly affected, because indirectly everyone in the
planet is. God bless our Earth, our home, our land.

Leilá Leonardos

Querido Chef:

Dado que eres, de algún modo, nuestro "amigo en América", nos dirigimos a
ti para expresar nuestra más absoluta consternación, nuestro horror y
nuestra impotencia ante los terribles atentados que han costado la vida a
tantas personas inocentes. A buen seguro, a partir de ahora ya nada volverá
a ser igual, y ni nos atrevemos a imaginarnos las posibles consecuencias
para el mundo entero. Desde aquÃ:censor: queremos aseguraros que estamos con
vosotros y que os acompañamos en el sentimiento.

Un gran abrazo,

Marianne Reutemann & familia, Barcelona, España

My family and I will think of each and every American in this time of
sorrow and carry you in our prayers. Our thoughts are with you and we will
carry you in our hearts.

Tharina Peters and family, South Africa

Dear Chef:

Our small Ring from Venezuela is shocked with yesterday's tragedy. We send
our condolences to all the American people. Our hearts are with you.


Yolanda and Rocio

Dear Chef,

I'm just another one, but I'd like you to know that my friends, my family
and I are feeling very sad and shocked with this tragedy. We learned since
we were children not to trust strangers because not everybody are good
people, but we never could imagine that a human being could be so evil. We
know the mankind is know praying for all USA population and we believe that
the American people will triumph over this tragedy. We hope that everybody
in USA gets back their feeling of trust and safety in life very soon. Our
respect for the innocent victims and our condolence for their relatives and

God bless America and God bless our Planet

Iride Marcatto, Brasil

Just a brief note to say to say we stand with all of you in the USA in
this time of sadness. We hope that the basic principals of our societies,
the sometimes contradictory ideals of justice and peace and equality and
democracy will prevail, and the basic goodness of the human spirit will be
allowed to grow despite the incomprehensible events of this day.

Anne McCusker, Australia
post #105 of 331
Hi, everyone. Here in Utah, we have our flags high and we are smiling and laughing even with our hearts deep with grief. Vjoy, my prayers and thoughts are with you guys. It saddens me that this thing had to happen. I love New York. And even though I am mexican, I love the USA and all that it stands for. The only thing I can help with is to light a candle and to go and donate some blood. And it is sad because I was planning on going with my boyfriend and children to New York so they can see the place. Is Time Square also ruined? And Broadway? I hope they catch those :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor:s. I know they will get the death penalty. But I think we should torture them. Make them work so they can be the ones to raise all the money for cleaning, funeral, and for those families who lost a loved one. Make them do the cleaning and looking for the bodies. Then, after they are done with their work and have paid off their $1,000,000 dept, go straight to the death chair and have God punish them eternally!!!!!
post #106 of 331
I got an e mail today asking that everyone wear red, white and blue tomorrow. I don't know how many people it has reached, but I know I will.
post #107 of 331
Sorry this is so long guys, I thought it was an interesting piece to read.Tamim, a writer and columnist in San Francisco, who comes from
Afghanistan. This is very, very interesting and a little chilling....

* * * *

I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the
Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would mean
killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this atrocity,
but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What else can we
do?" Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the
belly to do what must be done."

And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am
from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never
lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will
listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.

I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no doubt
in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity in>New York.
I agree that something must be done about those monsters.

But the Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the
government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics
who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal with a
plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin Laden,think
Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan" think "the Jews in
the concentration camps."

It's not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this atrocity.
They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would exult if
would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out the rats nest of
international thugs holed up in their country.

Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The
answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A
few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000 disabled
orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food. There are
millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these widows alive
mass graves. The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all
destroyed by the Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan
people have not overthrown the Taliban.

We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone
Age.Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already.
the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses? Done.
Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their hospitals?
Done. Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health
care? Too late. Someone already did all that.

New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at least
get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the Taliban eat,
only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away and hide. Maybe
the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't move too
fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and dropping
bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who did this
horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with the
Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping all this time

So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true
fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with
ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what needs to
done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many as
needed. Having the belly to overcome
any moral qualms about killing innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of
the sand. What's actually on the table is Americans dying. And not just
because some Americans would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to
Bin Laden's hideout. It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any
troops to Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us?
Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other
Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting with
world war between Islam and the West.

And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants.
That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right
there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might seem
ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the
West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a holocaust in those
lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose, that's even
from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably wrong, in the end the West
would win, whatever that would mean, but the war would last for years and
millions would die, not just theirs but ours. Who has the belly for that?
Bin Laden does. Anyone else?

Tamim Ansary
post #108 of 331
I feel even sicker to my stomach than i did before
post #109 of 331
Dear Tamim, I am an American-Israeli living in an area very close to the Gaza Strip on one side (20 minutes by car), a major Beduin-Arab and Arab city 15 minutes away on the other side, and on the designated road for all cross-travel between Gaza and the West Bank areas. In Israel, we have Arab terrorists, and in the Palestinian areas they have our army, and we both suffer.

I am in agreement with everything you wrote.

I saw a man interviewed briefly on CNN tonight -- an Afgani, tired, apprehensive, and desperate -- asking Americans to come, to do what had to be done, but to take care...to spare the Afgani people, was his meaning. My heart went out to him, caught between the murderous Taliband and the western world that does not understand the complexity of the Afgan situation.

I am really praying that Bush and company will get it right and avoid hurting civilians more than they have already been so hurt during the long, long years of civil war and war with Russia.

I fear what you do. That there is so much outrage -- and let's face it, fear that this kind of terrorist attack could hit anyone in the world if it is not stamped out -- that I am afraid that the effort made will not be careful enough. It is, after all, easier to sling a lot of cruise missiles at a distant enemy -- so sad about all the people caught in between -- when bin Laden is such a fanatic :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor:, and clearly so. But Bush has, at the moment, carte blanche, and even if he didn't, one way or another the Anglo-Saxon warrior has been aroused.

I pray that this incredible solidarity of revulsion and will is used as a righteous weapon against terrorism and not just as a way to change political balances and avenge old hatreds. If all the consenting governments stick to the agenda and go after terrorism of ALL kinds, then perhaps we can continue in this century in reasonable safety. If they enter with nothing but vengence and hatred, we are all ultimately lost. People have likened this event to Pearl Harbor. I think what is meant is that after Pearl Harbor, life and war changed irrevokably. It was a landmark moment in global history. The same is true of this event. And the lessons derived can go toward good or ill, depending on the attitude of the western world.

I grieve for the Afgan people. I grieve for New York and for Washington. I grieve for all those killed by terrorism in our century, and for the foreseeable future. I pray that we will be "careful."
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Thank you all for your kind words. My husband and I are going through a very difficult time. We are both seeing therapists.

Nena, you asked about Times Square and Broadway. That is midtown Manhattan, NOrth of the devastation. In fact, the Broadway shows resume tonight (thursday)

What I can tell you is that every building in a 10 block radius (which includes my husbands building) was affected by the destruction. Buildings are weakend, and starting to collapse here and there. The rescue efforts continue. They have found a few people alive in the reckage, but obviously there will many, many dead.

Almost everyone I know had someone in or around the towers. I have friends who lost loved ones, friends...etc.... I am so lucky to have my husband. He is afraid to go back into Manhattan....

Almost the entire lower portion of Manhattan is closed at this time. Only rescue workers, and some volunteers. Many, Many businesses were destroyed. And thousands of lives are probably lost. It is sureal, like in a movie.

Thank you again for your prayers and thoughts.
We are a devistated country, and our hearts are broken. At least that is how I feel.

I get Danielle tomorrow. I hope she can bring healing to me and my husband.
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That was insightful and thoughtful. I believe our leaders are treading very carefully right now. I pray this continues, they have been hunting this madman for quite some time and know he is elusive. Would you give me permission to share your letter on another board where this letter appeared?
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Originally posted by Sandie
I got an e mail today asking that everyone wear red, white and blue tomorrow. I don't know how many people it has reached, but I know I will.

I received this same email tonight. I have also heard on the news that several schools were planning on doing this tomorrow, as well. Seeing as we have a hurricane now bearing down on us for tomorrow, school has been closed. Guess I'll be wearing my read, white, and blue as the roof whips off the place.
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All Europeans were asked to observe a moment of silence this morning. As far as i can tell, we, in Portugal, did this. Just to let you know, that we are all mourning.

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Vjoy - through all this mass destructiona and loss of life - there needs to begin the healing. I will hope that you pick up Danielle today at the shelter. She needs a home and you and your husband need something to hold on to that is comforting and real and a sign of hope for you. I am praying for you all in NYC - especially you folks.
You will give Danielle a new life today -
Bless you......
post #115 of 331
Thank you Debra.

My husband woke last night during a thunder storm and thought we were being bombed.

Danielle is being delivered in about 20 minutes. I hope we can be good parents to her considering the mental state we are in.

Thank you all, everywhere for your kind and gracious prayers and wishes.
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Times Square is still here. It better be. I'm at work right now in an office overlooking Times Square. It's been very hectic here the last couple of days. Yesterday there were many bomb scares around Times Square and most people ran out of the buildings and left the area. A lot of businesses in this area are closed. Our company, however, refuses to close!! Today, we have CIA agents or something of the sort in our lobby! And we had two false fire alarms go off and had to run down 20 flights of stairs only to find out there was a problem with the fire alarm system and go back up! The sad part is, we've had this problem with the fire alarm systems in this building for a long time and now it's causing a REAL problem. It is complete chaos here.
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Hi everyone. Did anybody else living in other cities and states receive bomb threats? Yesterday, while I was going to work, the bus I rode had to detour because a courthouse received a bomb threat. Also, another bus had the same thing. Nothing real, but I think some people who have no heart think this tragedy is funny. I can't believe it. I don't think they should treat it as a joke. I, a sensitive person who cannot stand to see anybody in pain, had been crying all day. We can laugh, but only a little. We should be in the mourning state. I wish the U.S. and state government should have closed schools and some businesses so that we can all go to church and pray. I also heard here in Utah, that a middle eastern restaurant got on fire from an arsonist. Just because someone is from the middle east, we should not treat them bad. Is not their fault. Its their leaders and organizations.
post #118 of 331
Dear Hissy -- share anytime. I never write secrets, and frankly, I don't care if people know how I feel about things. But you should include the original article from Tamim.

as to bomb scares -- we take them rather seriously here in Israel, and some years it seems there is one a month in my area. Then I can go several years down here in the southland without one. We have scares, and then we have the real thing. So we tend to evacuate in an orderly fashion, or duck when someone shouts. With a suicide bomber, it's more difficult, because it usually catches everyone unawares. It is the same as New Yorkers having to get used to crossing streets in that ghastly traffic.

I know you are all stressed out back there in the States. I have been crying for days, and I rarely cry about things that can't be helped. But being afraid or letting all that horror wreak your lives is giving in to the the :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor:s. That's what they want you to do. A lot of people in the rest of the world have this strange idea that Americans are pampered and weak and will fold in fear at the first shot. Saddam Hussein made that mistake.

They don't understand Americans. I know that we are are a lot tougher than that. I know that we take after the original bloody-minded British (apologies to my English friends), who are civilized, polite, and low key until someone really gets them backed into a corner. And then they are the bravest, most vicious fighters in the world, steadfastly holding the line to the last man (or woman). These are, of course, cliches, but they are not far off the mark. Hitler thought the English would be a pushover. Boy was he surprised. Napoleon thought the same thing. That led to Waterloo. In WW2, the Germans also thought the Americans would never cross the ocean to leave their comfortable consumer-oriented lives. But Americans have enough Anglo-Saxon traditions in them to have given him another big shock.

When you feel really down, remember who you are. Crying is fine. Strong people cry. But fear will defeat you. Talk it out, and talk it out, and talk it out. But know that you are stronger than you ever imagined. Americans are survivors, or they never would have created America in the first place.

Vjoy, it will take a while -- trauma is not to be treated lightly, and treatment and counseling are good pathways to healing. But you'll see. You'll weather it and be stronger for it.

As for not being good parents because of your "mental" state, nonsense. You will rise to the occasion, as you must. You never really know your strength until you test it. You will heal each other in this relationship. Trust in your instincts and help each other.

Peace and love...
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NBC wanted people to spread this, so I wanted to write it incase you didn't hear yet:

Today at 7 o'clock, all Americans are expected to get out of their cars & houses & etc. & light a candle.

We'll also light one.
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NBC is also reporting an official number of 4763 people missing in the World Trade Center attack.

I heard one thing today that suggests flying the flag, not just for today or this weekend, but always. I, for one, will buy one as soon as stores get restocked. I have way too much pride in this country to take it for granted anymore.
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