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How much respect do you have for politicians?

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm a very irreverent person, as far as religions, philosophies and political ideologies are concerned. This afternoon, I watched some newscasts from Arab TV stations together with some Arab/Muslim students (who kindly translated for me, arguing all the time about the "correct" translation,) and one guy (Azerbijani) asked me what politicians I respected. The best I could do was to come up with, "So and so, but, ...) As a teacher, there are times when I have to "throw my weight around", simply in order to keep things under control, but to be quite honest, I can't come up with anyone, other than perhaps Mother Theresa, whom I'd completely trust- what about the rest of you? Do you trust politicians?
post #2 of 19
Jimmy Carter, and perhaps Ralph Nader.

The very nature of politics in our country (money talks!) tends to weed out honest politicians and attract the power-hungry, to the point where the term "respectable politician" has become an oxymoron.
post #3 of 19
I respect the Office/Title.
Actual respect for Politicians?
None.
Zero.
Zip
Nada.

If their lips are moving they're probably lying.
post #4 of 19
There are a few I respect and trust...however I am for the most part a very trusting soul..even a little naive at times. With age I'm getting wiser, but I hope never to be hardened. In no particular order: Past and Present, many of the "past people" are from reading and studying since I did not have first hand knowledge of them

FDR
ELEANOR ROOSEVELT...she may never had held office but she was a damn good pol
JIMMY CARTER
GEORGE MCGOVERN
SHIRLEY CHISOLM
HUBERT HUMPHREY
BELLA ABZUG
WOODROW WILSON
RICHARD NIXON..HA, HA, JUST KIDDING!
JAY ROCKEFELLER
HOWARD DEAN
BARBARA JORDAN
ABRAHAM LINCOLN
UPTON SINCLAIR

There is probably more...but enough for now.
post #5 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by grampngram
I respect the Office/Title.
Actual respect for Politicians?
None.
Zero.
Zip
Nada.

If their lips are moving they're probably lying.
Exactly. Respect the Office, not the people in it anymore.
post #6 of 19
Val:

I'm going to amend mine to 1 name.
Senator John McCain.
Straight Shooter and unelectable in todays political world unfortunately.
post #7 of 19
No respect or trust here whatsoever.
post #8 of 19
I trust and respect John McCain and my former Congressman, Jim Kolbe. Unfortunately, I was gerrymandered out of Jim's district.

When Russ died and I had trouble getting my pension, I contacted Mr. Kolbe's office. Not a week went by, without a letter or phone call, from someone on his staff AND they did light a fire under the Veteran's Administration.

Jim Kolbe truly represents the people of his district. My current Congressperson, Raul Grijalva is an embarrassment to Southern AZ. HE truly represents the people of Mexico and illegal aliens. If we had known how the redistricting was going to go, we would have bought a house, at least 1 mile east, in order to stay in Mr. Kolbe's district.
post #9 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by grampngram
Val:

I'm going to amend mine to 1 name.
Senator John McCain.
Straight Shooter and unelectable in todays political world unfortunately.
I agree with that. He certainly doesn't follow party politics, which is a good thing.

I'll add one from my home state, unfortunately he is retiring after this term. Ben Nighthorse Campbell. I liked him when he was a Democrat for the same reason I like McCain. He did was he felt was right. It took a lot of guts for him to abandon the Dems when he didn't like the direction the party was going and switching to the Republicans. The thing is, his politics didn't change with the switching of parties.
post #10 of 19
Power corrupts and that to me happens to every elected representative. They enter with good intentions (maybe) but once in power, it's bye-bye!
post #11 of 19
Hey, how come there is no option saying "I worship them" or I am willing to sacrifice my life for them? hehe

Personally I am more afraid of a politician who refuses to change their stance so that they will not be seen as being 'corrupted' by the system or what not. Fine line between stubborn person who refuse to recognise mistake and a determined person wanting to push through their vision against all odds.
post #12 of 19
I dont trust any of them..they talk alot about how they are going to do this and that,then once they are elected their promises go out the door
post #13 of 19
I'd trust some of them far more than Mother Teresa, anyway. Most of the Western world is in awe of her due to propaganda that she spread, but she was far from the kind person made out to be. Do a little digging and you'll see a bit... Holy crap was I surprised when I found out. (No pun intended.) You can start with Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

There are some people that I think are in it for more than immediate self-interest; in the US, politics really is about money, but some people manage to survive and get into positions to do some good. Sure their power is limited, but it doesn't mean they must be completely ineffective.
post #14 of 19
At the show this weekend there was a wannabe congressman trying to garner votes. He was pro the second amendment which is why he chose the gun show for his campaign. Mike got into a fairly detailed conversation with him, asking him some valid questions about concerns regarding the standard of living here for self-employed people. The man was swarmy and kept saying- "those are good questions and I would ask you, what would you do to remedy the situation?" Finally Mike rocked back on his heels, and looked this guy square in the eye and said- "It doesn't matter what I would do, what is relevant is what would YOU do?" No answer.

Talk about a weak platform. He said whatever needed to be said to be considered the right man for the job.
post #15 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weatherlight
I'd trust some of them far more than Mother Teresa, anyway. Most of the Western world is in awe of her due to propaganda that she spread, but she was far from the kind person made out to be. Do a little digging and you'll see a bit... Holy crap was I surprised when I found out. (No pun intended.) You can start with Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

There are some people that I think are in it for more than immediate self-interest; in the US, politics really is about money, but some people manage to survive and get into positions to do some good. Sure their power is limited, but it doesn't mean they must be completely ineffective.
Weatherlight, I have read other accounts about MT and her nuns with "let the dying suffer" routine. Doing so, as if suffering was noble and a way to repent your sins. I have heard that this was especially true for AIDS patients. I don't know if any or all of this is true, but it breaks my heart if it is. Especially since I have cared for end stage AIDS patients (I worked on an AIDS unit at one time.)
post #16 of 19
Honestly, I wouldn't trust any politician any farther than I can throw them... Current ones I know enough about not to trust them...Past one I don't know enough about to trust them and I know enough about history to not trust it as it was written. Isn't it strange that with history, you are either a great person or a horrible person not in between...I think it falls under the don't speak ill of the dead unless you can't get out of it mantra. Or unless they're Hitler.
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weatherlight
I'd trust some of them far more than Mother Teresa, anyway. Most of the Western world is in awe of her due to propaganda that she spread, but she was far from the kind person made out to be. Do a little digging and you'll see a bit... Holy crap was I surprised when I found out. (No pun intended.) You can start with Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

There are some people that I think are in it for more than immediate self-interest; in the US, politics really is about money, but some people manage to survive and get into positions to do some good. Sure their power is limited, but it doesn't mean they must be completely ineffective.
Uh, oh, another "fallen idol". How about the Dalai Lama? Does anybody have the "scoop" on him? Maybe I should just give up on the search for "exemplary" human beings. And please - don't offer the Pope or Bush as candidates.
post #18 of 19
Haha, Bush could have been a nice "fallen idol" if he had fallen down for good after that wonderful pretzel...

There are no objectively "exemplary" human beings. There are human beings with different characteristics, who do different things. There's no point in worshipping someone based on what the newspapers say; just be the best person that you yourself can be.
post #19 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weatherlight
Haha, Bush could have been a nice "fallen idol" if he had fallen down for good after that wonderful pretzel...
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