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post #1 of 23
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Ghost Town, a very real one to be exact. While prancing around the net late one night, I stumbled upon this website. Being curious and wanting to see something new, I clicked on it. What I read and saw on the site made me think about what happened at this town, what it was like then and now. Walking thru the gates of this town is like going thru a time machine. Everything is frozen. Laundry still hanging from the balconies of apartments, mail still waiting to be picked up and preparations of a grand parade just days away until the town went silent, when a shiny cloud came over the city; I’m talking about Chernobyl. That fateful day in 1986… The author of this website (the link is below) rides her bike through the city at times, but is very educated about the radiation levels since her father taught her well (He is one of the researchers on the after effects of the meltdown, etc.) As is sat there reading this website at 2 in the morning, I was blown away by the details of her visit, and the pictures alone tell the story (with some having the Geiger counter with the pics showing the levels of radiation). It’s very moving at times looking through this site seeing how time just stopped and the little stories that went along with it. But I wanted to share this website with you all, very educational and told by someone first hand who has been there a few times. It opened my eyes to see what really happened and what it is like now. It's just amazing…

Here is the link:
Ghost Town
post #2 of 23
Wow, that was amazing! I had always wondered what happened to the town. It looks so sad

Thanks for posting that Arg0!
post #3 of 23
wow I had no idea! I had heard of chernobil but didn't know anything about a radiation explosion. That's incredible that the government tried to keep quiet about it and not try and protect it's people and others that might be in harms way. And then to sentence the very people who tried to still save the place... unbelievable!

Thanks for the very educational site!
post #4 of 23
There just isn't words...Thanks for finding that.
post #5 of 23
Incredible. I remember Chernobyl well (and Three Mile Island), but haven't seen as many photos as on this site. Thanks for posting this.
post #6 of 23
Thread Starter 
Glad everyone found this to be an excellent site, I just wish I could contact the author by email. Oh wells.

But it is really fascinating, especially when I am a Cold War Junkie (and Veteran, yes there a few of us that are now considered by the Department of Defense, but not official yet, Cold War Veterans). One of my bookmarks is filled with this stuff, but nothing quite as riveting as this. I would love to see Russia, as tourist and as a veteran, especially the Rocket Forces. But seeing this webpage is definitely something to think about.
post #7 of 23
Thanks for posting this. Elena (the author of the site) seems to have made a full photographic documentary out of it. And a good one.

I shall confess it makes me want to grab a motorbike of myself and go there.... if I go to the Ukraine, I guess I will try to contact that lady to see if she can guide me and help me obtain the permits.
post #8 of 23
I visited both East Berlin and Hungary before the Iron Curtain fell, and felt that to some of the people I met I was an "alien". A group of us Americans (exchange students) ended up seated with a bunch of Soviet Army officers at a concert in Berlin - that was really hysterical - talk about being overly polite! When my husband and I visited Hungary (my in-laws are German-Hungarians), everybody kept dragging me off to see the "Iron Curtain" and shoddy state-run factories /farms. My husband finally said I shouldn't open my mouth so that people wouldn't realize I was an American - he was sick of being shown how horrible Communism was. I'd love to visit Russia, too - I had Russian history in high school, and a few political science courses in college in the late 70s. Nowadays I have several students from eastern Germany and from Russia who are too young to remember the Cold War, and are very curious about how I experienced it as an American. They find it so odd that we had air raid drills when I was in elementary school. Chernobyl became public knowledge on May Day in Germany. It was a beautiful, sunny day, and since it was a holiday, everybody was outdoors, and every little town had a festival. I really wonder how many of those celebrants are now dead. For years people were warned about eating game and mushrooms. Having grown up in eastern Pennsylvania, downwind of Three Mile Island, I really took it seriously. You wouldn't believe how many people I knew from PA, NJ and Delaware who died of cancer/leukemia after Three Mile Island. There was a film called "The China Syndrome", with Jane Fonda, Michael Douglas and Jack Lemmon, about just such a risk. The Three Mile Island incident took place just while the "experts" were assuring everyone that it couldn't happen because of the "fail-safe" systems!
post #9 of 23
I had just seen that site a couple of weeks ago; sent to me in an email by a biker friend. It was truly unsettling to view, and makes one think about all of the consequences that may yet befall us because of that incident. Six hundred years is a long time.
post #10 of 23
That's just....I can't even...


I have no words for this....
post #11 of 23
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I shall confess it makes me want to grab a motorbike of myself and go there.... if I go to the Ukraine, I guess I will try to contact that lady to see if she can guide me and help me obtain the permits.

I hate to break it you Victor but they don't let any Tom, Dick and Harry into the Dead Zone. The only reason why she has one is the fact that her father is a researcher of the area for the past 18 years and he got the proper permits and the right training for her regarding radiation poisoning. Going to that town or any radioactive site is very dangerous. She even stated she goes alone or with a passenger but with no other vehicles since she is afraid to put dust on other vehicles. That's how radioactive this area is. Unless you know what area's to avoid, depending on weather conditions and which building to avoid (and why) and knowledge about the surrounding areas, I highly doubt if they will let any Tom, Dick and Harry thru any check points. The area may have cooled slightly and the reactor covered but the area is still fully dangerous. And I highly doubt she will take any stranger with her on one of her rides, if she chooses to go back in there. I know I wouldn’t. And yes, I do have training and education in this field to make that decision.
post #12 of 23
Originally Posted by Arg0
Glad everyone found this to be an excellent site, I just wish I could contact the author by email. Oh wells.
What about writing her a letter? She leaves her address on the last page of the site. I very well think I may just write her a letter. Those pictures are just so amazing, yet so sad at the same time. It hurts to see it, yet it makes me so curious. It makes me wonder about those that were there, those that could still be alive. Taking a look at the pictures that were left behind....it just makes me sad. I can't imagine life just stopping.

I wish it were possible for me to go there, but I know it isn't. I feel so inspired and just want to know more.

Here is the address:

Ukraine 03187 Kiev-187 Zabolotnogo 20/A Post Box 25 Elena
post #13 of 23
Thread Starter 
I saw that I wish it was email though, just a tad bit quicker Thank you though!
post #14 of 23
I believe I once saw a program which shows a firm taking people to visit the place. My dad was in Eastern Europe when this occured but he did not know about it until he returned home. And while he was there, he was thinking, wow these communist government are really good, they wash the streets every single night. And he was wondering why no one touched the salad when he was at the restaurant. Of course, after coming all came to light.

Did you know that there are certain farms (and sheep) as far as UK that are still contaminated?

After looking at the pics, I really want to visit the place. I visited both Nagasaki and Hiroshima and went to their peace museums. The pictures and the building which they preserved, made my hair stand on ends.
post #15 of 23
I remember this disaster. And yes, they do say there were sheep contaminated as far as the UK - so too certain farms. I wonder where????????????????? State Secret????????
I believe it is possible to see it as another Pompeii in x amount of years as she states.
It is very spooky though - its the kids little shoes that got me!
post #16 of 23
So, you guys know- I am from Russia, right? And that city used to be a part of Russia when all that happened in "Ghosttown". It was a huge- huge secret, really! But- I saw people who sirvived over that tragedy- and it was awfull! Even if the goverment tried to keep everything quite and covered from the people we all had a lot of relatives of friends who somwhow were connected and that's why all knew the true story- BUT it was illigall to even whisper about that! That tragedy was awfull mistake of pople who OWNED that factory! Later, during Elzen beeing our president- we had sooo many TV shows about what happened! And later on- with Putin- everything got uncovered!!!! People on that factory beeing so aware of what gonna happened- but never even tried to prevent that. You know, in many cases what happened then really reminds me what happened with American people on 9.11- a lot of people felt- something really bad is coming, a lot of people got messages..well, there are a lot of staff we don't know- BUT they didn't do anything, just thinking- oh, well, everything is going to be fine, ain't nothing to worry about...Too sad. In moments like that I really really start to believe in God and Evil and in balance of good and bad we all do.
post #17 of 23
Very thought provoking site.
post #18 of 23
I know, I know. No need to reproach. I just was expressing the fact that she makes it so visual you end up imagining yourself in there in person. We all know that it would be impossible, but at the same time, you still visualize yourself in the place. It's just such a thought provoking thing that you simply can't avoid imagining yourself there in person. I hope you didn't got offended by it.

As pumpicoki said... its so saddening... brings you so much curiosity... and you wish you could go there, even though you know it isn't possible. And puts you to think so much. To reflex.

Perhaps I ought to write a letter - just to congratulate her.... she has made a very good documentation of it all. And brings you to reflex on it so much. A very good job.
post #19 of 23
This is a picture I found- and it shows the damages Chernobyl tragedy brought to the world!!!!
post #20 of 23
Some more pics I found from there- it's just terrible - they are probably doing some kind of research- but thouse happy fasies are not matching the ghost city at all!!!!link
By the way- "Ghost town"- is unique site! I spend couple of hours trying to find something close to, but...Elena did a great job!Oh, and i've just noticed- those birds they are reserching on- they are albinos!!!!!!!
post #21 of 23
I recommended the site to my classes today. They've all heard of Chernobyl, though most are too young to remember the disaster.
post #22 of 23
Here's my mom's experience when she traveled to Eastern Europe and the USSR. One of the things that was advised was to identify as a US citizen only for official purposes when you have to show passports or official papers and such. For all matters you are Puerto Rican and Spanish is your native tongue, English is a mere second learned (which is the truth). But that's a piece of advice I give to all fellow Puerto Rican travelers, however, it was stressed more in East Europe. If in the states, you should use the American citizenship to your advantage, if elsewhere, its more of an impediment and you should hide it whenever possible.

She says, it wasn't exactly impressive, but the place wasn't exactly bad at the same time. But that was from the eyes of a tourist, so it could not have been a total image, but that is what she said from the place.
post #23 of 23
Well, I'm not sure what in the heck that has to do with Chernobyl, but that doesn't surprise me a whole lot. During the Cold War, after WWII until (officially) 1989 when the Berlin Wall came down and even after that, America was the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe's enemy. Plain and simple. Both countries were telling their people that the other was evil and we had to be careful so that they wouldn't nuke the world into oblivion. I realize the Cold War was before your time, Victor, but all that propoganda (by both sides) doesn't disappear overnight. I'm sure there are still a lot of people on both sides who inherently mis-trust people coming into their country from the other country. And if your mother traveled there prior to or right after the Wall fell......DUH!
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