They just found the four missing bodies

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I am listening to CNN and they just found the four missing bodies of those contract workers in Iraq. How so very sad and what a hardship on the families of the missing and those who are over there now just trying to earn a paycheck.
 

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It is horrible. I'm so sorry for the families. I just wish this whole thing was over. What a nightmare. As you can imagine, I have such conflicting feelings about all this. I'm tired of the violence though. Rashid has postponed his trip to Iraq until things are more secure.
 

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Oh god, that is so terrible.


Why are things getting worse over there? Too many people are dying.

 

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This world is getting worse every day. Those poor heartbroken people, they will never get over it will they. But what is the answer, I certainly don't know how it all is going to get sorted out, but I hope it's soon.
 

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It is indeed tragic that innocent lives have to be lost for political gain. I'm afraid I hold a very cynical view of all politicians and suspect their motives irrevocably.

I fear that much blood will unfortunately be shed across many nations before the the human race will come to its senses - if it ever will
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I know my prayers to the families. It's getting hard to see a light at the end of the tunnel. My gosh does anyone have a plan for over there? Didn't they use common sense and count on this aftermath? Or were they that stupid to just think the first "shock and awe" would get everyone in line?
There's a good article in newsweek this week about all this. Apparently they did think the Shock and Awe was a big deal, I mean it was, but Rumsfeld is so into revamping the military and he thought it would pull us out of post Vietnam 'Paper tiger" status.

We can't pull out, we are stuck with this for years and years. I think it will come in waves, it will calm down and then another wave... etc for years.
 

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Originally Posted by Marge

I know my prayers to the families. It's getting hard to see a light at the end of the tunnel. My gosh does anyone have a plan for over there? Didn't they use common sense and count on this aftermath? Or were they that stupid to just think the first "shock and awe" would get everyone in line?
There's a good article in newsweek this week about all this. Apparently they did think the Shock and Awe was a big deal, I mean it was, but Rumsfeld is so into revamping the military and he thought it would pull us out of post Vietnam 'Paper tiger" status.

We can't pull out, we are stuck with this for years and years. I think it will come in waves, it will calm down and then another wave... etc for years.
You're statement is exactly right. There was no plan for after Baghdad fell. Pres. Bush said the U.S. isn't in to nation building. Well if you're going to go to war and over throw the government... you better have a plan for nation building!

Shock and Awe a big deal? I don't think so. Maybe for the women and children at first. But the people over there have been through so much that bombs don't faze them. They are numb. Just like when I expressed to my husband that I didn't want him to go over there right now. He told me he didn't care about bombs and fighting. He said he's used to it and it doesn't bother him.

At any rate, the whole thing is tragic and the violence has to start winding down. I wish the U.N. would get involved. I know they probably don't want to go in and clean up a mess they were against in the first place. But something needs to be done! Too many American's and the innocent Iraqi's are being killed while the bad guys are still roaming the streets. <sigh>
 

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I don't think the shock and awe was much either actually.
It was a big show and a bigger deal with Rumsfeld and gang than I realized.

<sigh> too. I was thinking maybe if we at least get a new PResident maybe just maybe people will see the US in a different light. And we will also start doing the right and smart thing more and more. And he would use better judgement in how we approach it all for 2 reasons, 1. he is a vet himself and knows what it's like and 2. cause he is just plain smarter with more common sense.
 

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Originally Posted by Yola

It is indeed tragic that innocent lives have to be lost for political gain. I'm afraid I hold a very cynical view of all politicians and suspect their motives irrevocably.

I fear that much blood will unfortunately be shed across many nations before the the human race will come to its senses - if it ever will
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I agree. There is not one polititian I look at now and think "Ok, what is it he really wants?"
 
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