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post #1 of 31
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For those of you, in warm climates, snakes are coming out of hibernation. Two Tucson-area men were bitten by rattlers, just today. One was working in his garden and the other one was trying to catch the snake. As far as I'm concerned, the latter had it coming. There is always some idiot, who thinks that all you need to catch a rattlesnake, is a forked stick and a 12-pack of beer.

Bill tells me that there are a larger number than usual, out at the eastside equipment yard. I told him to be careful. We had a pretty wet winter, which means more vegetation = more rodents = more snakes. Ever since he crawled under a loader and came face-to-face with a rattler, coiled on the differential, Bill takes a hammer and bangs on every piece of equipment, BEFORE he crawls under it. This will scare snakes away or, at least, make them rattle.

Be careful where you walk and don't put you hands into or under anyplace that you can't see. Look, before you sit down on a log or rock.
post #2 of 31
Oooo...how scary! I hate snakes with a passion & I'm so happy we don't have many in my area.

Thanks for reminding all of those who live in areas that have those pests!
post #3 of 31
Thank God where we live, we only have garter snakes. I hate snakes!
post #4 of 31
We have timber rattlesnakes in MN, they live in a hilly area that is along the banks of the Mississippi River. http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/snapshots...ttlesnake.html
post #5 of 31
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Arizona has the dubious distinction of being home to more species of rattlesnakes, than any other state. Several of them are protected species, too.

We have coral snakes, another poisonous species. There has never been a recorded case of anyone dying from a coral snake bite, though. They are very reclusive and their mouths are too small to bite anything but the tip of a finger or toe. People only get bitten, when they try to handle them.

I am more concerned with scorpions, black widows and brown recluse spiders, than snakes. Since we have a lot of lizards, around our house, the bug population stays under control and we don't get those creepy-crawlies, either.
post #6 of 31
I'm SO glad we don't have rattlers! Like hissy, we only have garter snakes
post #7 of 31
Arizona carries the distinction of having LOTS of venomous creatures, namely: Black Widows and other poisonous spiders, poisonous snakes, scorpions, fire ants (not deadly but still a very painful bite), and killer bees!! Did I miss anything? I am so glad to live back in the Midwest!! 7 months in AZ was enough for me.
post #8 of 31
Yes the snakes are out. I've seen several so far, I only had to kill one of em though. A young copperhead that had decided to take up in my shop. Most snakes I let go unless they are in a position to harm me or my family in any way. Btw Do any of you have outside cats catch snakes and bring them to you? I 've got one big ol b&w tom that will catch a snake in a heart beat.
post #9 of 31
NZ doesn't have snakes, thank goodness. Be careful everyone!
post #10 of 31
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Originally posted by catlover67
Arizona carries the distinction of having LOTS of venomous creatures, namely: Black Widows and other poisonous spiders, poisonous snakes, scorpions, fire ants (not deadly but still a very painful bite), and killer bees!! Did I miss anything? I am so glad to live back in the Midwest!! 7 months in AZ was enough for me.
The Midwest has prairie rattlers and black widow spiders. Africanized bees ARE on the move and the fire ants migrated west, from Florida. You can't get away from the creepy-crawlies.
post #11 of 31
Yes, but we have WINTER here, which effectively prohibits such creatures (killer bees and fire ants) from flurishing. The killer bee migration scenerio has been going on for over twenty years. So far I haven't heard of a single case of them in the midwest. On the contrary, A man in a little town in AZ was stung to death by a whole angry hive. Also the copperheads are not in populated areas (as of yet). The only real threat we have is from Brown Recluse spiders. My friend's house in Illinois had them in her lower level. Those little guys are fast and aggressive. They would run AT you, not away from you if they were disturbed. My friend's mother wound up in the hospital because one bit her thumb as she brought her hand down to smash it (not knowing what kind of spider it was). Her thumb swelled up and turned black!!! Nope. AZ can have the pollution, soaring crime rates, flash floods, dust storms, ungodly hot temps, AND their little poisonous critters. The occassional long winter sits just fine with me.
post #12 of 31
Thanks god there are only two species of snakes in PR and none is dangerous... they freak me out.
post #13 of 31
Originally posted by catlover67
Arizona carries the distinction of having LOTS of venomous creatures, namely: Black Widows and other poisonous spiders, poisonous snakes, scorpions, fire ants (not deadly but still a very painful bite), and killer bees!! Did I miss anything? I am so glad to live back in the Midwest!! 7 months in AZ was enough for me.
You forgot about the Gila Monster (lizard that clamps down, doesn't let go and injects poison). I saw one out there once hiking Sabino Canyon.

The biggest snake that I've ever seen in the wild was also in Sabino Canyon. It was a gopher snake, and was probably about 15 feet long. One end was hanging over one side of the road and the other was hanging over the other. That was wild!

We've got black widows, brown recluse, rattlers and copperheads here. I've seen both types of spiders in my garage, and have found copperheads in the field out back. Most snakes here are non-poisonous (had an 8 foot King snake crawl out from under my house one time).
post #14 of 31
I hate snakes!!
post #15 of 31
Originally posted by Strakatzz
Btw Do any of you have outside cats catch snakes and bring them to you? I 've got one big ol b&w tom that will catch a snake in a heart beat.
JC is an indoor cat who only goes outside on a leash, but he still manages to catch a couple of garter snakes a week in spring or summer(our yard in full of them - we have to go around collecting them in a bucket before mowing the lawn). Luckily there aren't any poisonous snakes in this area.

I was once contradicted by a herpetologist when I said there were no rattlers in Pennsylvania - he told me there were rattlers in most of the US. Take a look at the little maps on this page: http://www.pestproducts.com/rattlesnakes.htm
post #16 of 31
Thankfully there is only one poisonous snake in Finland, and no poisonous spiders or other critters as far as I know. Not scared of the one poisonous snake for my sake, but for my dogs. My older dog's mom always caught several of those snakes each summer, and I'm always afraid my dog will do the same if he sees a snake.
post #17 of 31
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In 46 years, I've seen just one rattler, in the wild and never seen a Gila monster. I'm not counting the dead rattlers, on the roads.

Over the years, in various parts of the state, I've seen bears, elk, deer (mule & whitetail), javelina, coyotes, kit foxes and bobcats. Skunks are prevalent, too.

Along with all of these things, we have wonderful winter weather, magnificent mountains, fascinating prehistoric and historical sites and the best sunsets, in the world, not to mention the Grand Canyon and the Painted Desert.
post #18 of 31
I do agree with the wonderful Winter weather!! It was nice to go swimming in Nov (outside!) Actually Northern AZ up near Page is beautiful. The pollution and crime are low and the weather is more moderate. I lived in Page for awhile. I wouldn't mind living in that part of the state at all. I forget to mention, in addition to the crime and pollution in the Phoenix area (2nd in air quality to Los Angeles), the nutty drivers. I witnessed anything from a fender bender to a severe crash almost every day on my way to work. I was almost smashed into several times as well. So it isn't like I am ANTI-Arizona, just ANTI-Phoenix and surrounding towns. I really don't mean to insult those who love it in the Valley, I just was presenting the lesser known and talked about side!
post #19 of 31
*sigh* nothing like a beautiful sunset at Gates Pass in the Tucson Mountains!! The desert sky produces such wonderful sunsets!

I've had family in Arizona my entire life - mostly Tucson but also Prescott and Cottonwood. There's not many places in the state that I don't like (except perhaps Phoenix! LOL).
post #20 of 31
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NOBODY likes Phoenix. Its not Arizona - its LA East. Tucson has some wackos and we have a bad red-light running problem but, it beats Phoenix, six ways from Sunday.
post #21 of 31
oh thank goodness all we have around here are garter snakes! I don't mind snakes, but I REALLY don't like spiders, and even the regular house spiders send me racing for the bug spray!

My family out west (B.C) live near a place called "rattlesnake point"... guess what's around there in high numbers?
post #22 of 31
I've already drug one snake out of my basement this year and its not been warm but a few days off and on..right now its an off..

my landlord has had the foundation sealed but they are still getting in somewhere, I usually get one or two a year down there biggest one was about 2 1/2 foot long. All garter snakes so far!
post #23 of 31
Yes it is, so be careful people! Nellie, my beloved 6.5yr old Australian Shepherd/Golden Retriever mix, was bit by a rattler nearly 3 weeks ago (March 16) on a hiking trip at Enchanted Rock (a huge state park in Texas). She put herself between the snake and my little sister (who was only a few feet away from the snake) and suffered 2 bites on the face. She was rushed to the nearest vet and spent 10 days afterwards in and out of vets, most of the time in critical condition. She's had 2 plasma transfusions, 1 red blood cell transfusion, several IVs (she's had them in all 4 legs), numerous blood tests, etc, and we almost lost her (at her worst, the vet said that "she was as close to death as she could be without being dead"). Her big problem right now is necrosis: she has a hole about the size of a dime strait through her face and is missing skin all along her muzzle and chest. She's still pretty weak and has lost 10#, but she's doing *so* much better now and is well on the road to recovery. She's eating food again, is going on short walks, snuggles up in bed with me, and feels pretty good, etc. She's going to have surgury next week to fix her face/chest, but all things considered, she's doing great although this was a horrifying experience for us.

So, be careful folks; no one should have to go through something like this. This page has all of Nellie's pictures (be warned that some are graphic):

post #24 of 31
Oh my, what a brave dog she is Aimee...what caused her face to do that? Was it the venom from the bite or infection? Those pictures are awful to look at, but she looks like its healing up nicely now..Do they expect a full recovery? Give her extra treats for being such a trooper!!!
post #25 of 31
Thread Starter 
Rattlesnake venom is hemotoxic, meaning that it causes blood to leak out of the vessels, inpairing circulation and causing tissue necrosis.

Neurotoxic venoms affect the central nervous system, causing muscle paralysis, leading to suffocation.

Spider venom is a combination of a neurotoxin and a digestive juice. The neurotoxin paralyzes the prey and the digestive juice dissolves tissue. People bitten by certain spiders, such as the brown recluse, have had to have skin grafts and reconstructive surgery, at and around the site of the bite.
post #26 of 31
With the link jcat providet I could look up what we have around here . And we have 6 poisiones snakes around here . I know we had a lot of Copperheads last year in our yard . That's one of the reason we have to keep our grass short for sure , so they wont hide and may bite one of us or the dogs . I had a big dog a while back and he got a good bite from a snake and almost died . For sure I don't want that to happen any more . I like snakes , but i don't like when they are poision and bite .
post #27 of 31
Aw Poor doggy.
post #28 of 31
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I remember copperheads, from when we lived in NC. My parents were walking down a dirt road and my mother jumped over what she thought was a stick. A few steps later, she turned around and saw the "stick" moving across the road. It was a copperhead. Mom freaked!

We also had to keep an eye out for cottonmouth moccasins and Eastern diamondback rattlers.
post #29 of 31
Oh Aimee, poor Nellie! She looks like a big strong dog though, pre the bite. She might not have pulled through had she just been a little thing. How brave.
Sooooo glad we dont have nothing in UK (as far as I know) to rival anything you lot have got. We have little snakes (grass snakes) which are actually quite cute.
post #30 of 31
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Tulip, correct me, if I am wrong but, don't the British Isles have one species of poisonous snake - the adder? I seem to remember reading that, somewhere.

Of course, there is that old myth, about St. Patrick chasing the snakes out of Ireland. Makes for a good story, except for the fact that there never WERE any snakes in Ireland, in the first place.

There is a similar story, about St. Paul doing the same thing, on Malta. While being transported to Rome, for trial, Paul's ship was wrecked on Malta. The survivors built a bonfire on the beach and a snake crawled out of the woodpile and bit one of the party. It is said that Paul picked up the snake and threw it into the fire. Since then, there have been no snakes on Malta. As in Ireland, though, Malta never had any snakes, to start with.
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