What does my kittens look like?

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I was wondering if anyone has any idea what my kittens breed/ breeds are.

First kitten is Dakota, male almost 5 months old. Short hair. Colors are tan,black,gray

The other kitten is Dustin. He is almost 5 months old.color is Black with a tad of white on chest area. Short hair.
 

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What sweet kitties! Are they siblings? They are both Domestic Shorthairs. I don't see any white on Dustin in the picture, but the white on his chest means he is a bicolor. Dakota is a brown mackeral tabby.
 
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Hello, Thank you for the response. Yes they are siblings. Believe it or not, I am told they have the same mother but a different father. They were born 10 days apart. Thank you.. I also think they are cuties. They really are great together. I will see if I can get a pic of Dustins chest area.
 
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I was told that Dustin was part Bombay and Dakota was part Bengal ?
 

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Bombays is a CFA/TICA recognized breed that has a very specific appearance with the head shape/eye color/size/muscle tone. Just because a cat is black does not mean he is a Bombay. All Bombays are black cats, but not black cats are Bombays. I really don't see any Bengal in Dakota. Bengals are either rosetted or come in the classic or "bullseye" tabby pattern. Bombays and Bengals are some of the most common breed titles given to Domestic Shorthair Cats.

Who did you get the cats from? Are you sure they're siblings? It's not possible for siblings to be born ten days apart. While a female cat is in estrus, she can mate with multiple males, resulting in offspring that has the same mother, but different fathers. These matings would happen very close together, however, so any kittens would be born at the same time.
 

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I agree 100% with Abyeb.

I have heard of a cat having two kittens almost a day apart but not 10 days. I don't think that it is biologically possible. I am also not seeing anything to specifically point to either having a purebred Bengal or Bombay father or even being more then similar coloring to the breeds. I find it a smidgen odd that someone would purposefully allow the female to mate with two drastically different males. A lot of shleters will label their cats because people like labels. Same with people selling kittens by upselling with specific breeds.

They are both beautiful cats Dustin is a black DSH (with a white spot although I don't know if it is enough to mention) and Dakota a brown tabby DSH.
 
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I got them off petfinder.They were labeled as mix breeds.I have different dates of births. One paperwork says they were born on the same day. Another vet said they are 10 days apart. My vet says its rare but possible they could be 10 days apart. But they weigh the same.The place I got them from says that the mother is a mixed bengal. They are trying to get the mother cat, supposedly whoever has this mother cat, is letting her get pregnant litter after litter.I was interested in them because their shedding is low for a bengal/bombay. I have copd. But its okay either way, because so far my breathing isnt affected. [emoji]128518[/emoji] and we love these kitties no matter what their breed is.
 

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Hello, Thank you for the response. Yes they are siblings. Believe it or not, I am told they have the same mother but a different father. They were born 10 days apart. Thank you.. I also think they are cuties. They really are great together. I will see if I can get a pic of Dustins chest area.
Seems to be an example of two different litters.
 

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I was told that Dustin was part Bombay and Dakota was part Bengal ?
Breed is not looks, but its if first hand parentage, as proven by correct paters, or at least, by some other credible evidence.

so the one is a very sweet shorthair domestic brown mackerel tabby, the other is a shorthair domestic black,  with a locklet.     MAY be same father, whom was a brown tabby, but not purebred, ie had only one tabby gene.

Im not sure if having a locklet means he is a bi-color.  This happens sometimes with solid colored russian blue - yes, its counted as a fault deeming them to be of pet quality.   but we know RB being purebred, they DONT carry no white spot gene.

Historically its common blackies had at least some white hairs.   In the medieval ages, when black cats were often burned or hanged or drown, as  devils and witches followers,  if they had at least some white on them, they were spared and let free again.

Did I say both are verry sweet?
 

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Ps they seems to be slender, aspecial blackie is.   But this is probably because they are kittens.
 

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This image makes me smile; Dustin reminds me of the silhouette by the Paris street artist Némo, which once appeared on the corner of the Rue du Chat qui Pêche and the Quai Saint-Michel in Paris.

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Breed is not looks, but its if first hand parentage, as proven by correct paters, or at least, by some other credible evidence.

so the one is a very sweet shorthair domestic brown mackerel tabby, the other is a shorthair domestic black,  with a locklet.     MAY be same father, whom was a brown tabby, but not purebred, ie had only one tabby gene.

Im not sure if having a locklet means he is a bi-color.  This happens sometimes with solid colored russian blue - yes, its counted as a fault deeming them to be of pet quality.   but we know RB being purebred, they DONT carry no white spot gene.

Historically its common blackies had at least some white hairs.   In the medieval ages, when black cats were often burned or hanged or drown, as  devils and witches followers,  if they had at least some white on them, they were spared and let free again.


Did I say both are verry sweet?
I agree with StefanZ. Having a locket does not make him a bicolor, before I was uncertain as to exactly how much white he had on him. I believe this is a spontaneous mutation, as it appears in pedigree cats who don't carry the white spotting gene. This happens in almost all breeds from one time to another. Perusing the CFA standard, each breed has some clause about what happens if a cat has a locket (also an issue with patterned cats, I.e., a silver tabby American Shorthair with a white locket on his/her chest. For most breeds it is deemed a fault, as StefanZ mentioned, but is acceptable in Cornish Rex. They also appear more in cats with more than one breed in their history. For example, Ocicats were developed by crossing Abyssinian, Siamese, and American Shorthair cats. Breeding cats without lockets or "buttons" as they are also called, can be frustrating for these breeders, because there is more places that a cat could inherit the mutant gene from. I just wrote this so that you can get an idea of how your sweet Dustin got that locket. I'm sure that 1CatOverTheLine 1CatOverTheLine would be glad to let you know more about the inheritance patterns and give you a more detailed explanation than I was able to.

With kittens, they will pretty much always be slender because of their high energy level. The best way to predict the body type that a kitten will end up with is to look at the head shape. Round head (think Persian, Exotic, Burmese) means the kitten will probably have the heavy boning and solid build similar to theses "cobby" breeds. Square head (think American Shorthair, Maine Coon) means the kitten will have the "intermediate" body type, muscular, like the true working cats that it might have in its ancestry. Triangular head (think Siamese, Oriental, Colorpoint, Balinese), and the kitten will grow up to be long and svelte. Dustin's head seems to be a modified wedge, so he will probably grow up to be between the body types of the working cats and the svelte "slinky" cats. Dakota seems to have a slightly more square shaped head than Dustin, so she might grow up to have a more compact, muscular build.

I hope to see you around TCS! We have photo contests every month which are very fun, I'd love to see more pics of your kitties there and in our other forums.
 
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