Is my cat a turkish van cat?

1CatOverTheLine said:

 
The Van pattern in the Turkish Van phenotype is determined by one of the alleles of the white spotting gene, the semi-dominant gene S^v - and a cat which is homozygous for the van-pattern gene (S^v S^v) is a Turkish Van.   The pattern here is simply similar to the Van pattern since the Piebald gene (S / s) is extremely variable, especially when the dominant is homozygous (SS).  Mikaela is a very pretty cat, whose markings resemble in some ways, the Turkish Van.

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StefanZ said:

 
Wait.  Do you mean our barncat out of nowhere in the Middle West or even further away, alone mother with 7 kids, shall be considered as a Turkish Wan, because all her 7 kids are of the Van pattern, and thus, she is probably homozygote for this gene in question?

She cant of course nowhere be a pedigreed TV, the probability is nearing seeing flying pigs or witches, but she should be considered for a natural candidat for Novice, so to speak??

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dianevm said:

Hello
 I adopted Mikaela, and I didn't know much about cats at the beginning. Then a friend of mine saw a picture of hers, and she told me she probably is a Turkish Van cat. Since then,  I've read much about this breed behaviour and characteristics. According to previous she seems like one. I would appreciate any feedback regarding this, for health and maintenance optimal care on my side, as pet owner. Thank you very much for the help, and sorry for the picture quality (It has been hard to take pictures of her, with her eyes open)

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nathaliewhite said:

Turkish vans have semi long hair and are actually rare so I do not think your kitty Is a Turkish van. Your cat does not have the long fur but she is beautiful, she is A domestic short hair, in color of calico. How do her parents look?

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1CatOverTheLine said:

It would be incredibly rare for a non-Van to be homozygous Sv / Sv, but with genes which are semi-dominant, a large number of traits can be carried forward. Their DNA proving out would be almost unimaginable, but as with any semi-dominant whose expression is variable, it's possible for the gene to affect the embryo cells which will become pigment-producing skin cells in the same way, I suppose,however if she threw a littler all of which gave the appearance of Van cats, she's probably homozygous Sv / Sv, and might have been bred to a littermate or to her own sire, who would have been also a Turkish Van. Semi-Dominants can and do act in the same way as recessives on occasion, "skipping" generations, and lying dormant in cats who look nothing like their (purebred) Parents. I've seen a little of cats who were clearly Snowshoes thrown by a cat bred from a Snowshoe / Siamese back cross, where W^S was expressed in every case (three kittens), with the same Breed Standard glove markings on each kitten.


U.C. Davis and their collaboration with the Feline Genome Project at the National Cancer Institute in Frederick, Maryland, is currently examining the semi-dominant genes, and the fashion in which they're expressed in F¹ and F² progeny of "mixed" Parents, and they've proven so far in mapping that we don't know enough to fill a thimble, especially as regards linked alleles. Instances of flying pigs and witches will always be uncommon, but it's clear now that some of those pigs do have wings (with apologies to C. L. Dodgson's Walrus and Carpenter).


Hello dear CatOverTheLine:
Thank you very much for your highly valuable scientific information. It has proven to be very enlightening for many of us. I understand your information which is very clear, and can match her breed unknown background. Hence, despite she might not "look like" one (according to one comment I received), she certainly has the typical behaviour of one, out of all the research I have done related to the breed's behaviour pattern, this far. I acknowledge she does not have long hair, though I have read they can have short hair too: they can adapt themselves to hot weather, which is the case, since we live in a tropical country in a mild-hot city. Sometimes, the temp. is real hot like any city in Summer season. I have to say that she loves water enough, to even look for the sink where to have a bath, and I do bathe her daily: it's like a dump bath I do with my wet hands. I pass them all over her fur, and she demands it on a daily basis. A thing she begun to demand since the first time I tried that on my ignorant assumption she would allow me to take my shower "in peace". Now she waits for me to finish my shower, so right after that she has hers.

Thus, thank you very much for your comment. I really appreciate it, since it is most valuable scientific information.
Best wishes.
Yours,
Kindly.
DianaV.

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nathaliewhite said:

sorry, I didn't realize you adopted her(from a shelter?) , so you probably do not know what parents look like. But we can wait for StefanZ for more info on your cat.

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nathaliewhite said:

Its fine and I see where you're coming from and yes they made have had exotic birds but the cat ate them? Of course, cats like chasing birds and if she was a stray before they had her that can show the behavior of the bird eating. My cat used to eat birds before we decided we were going to keep her. If she sees birds from the door she'll chirp at them to get their attention. Its possible your kitty may have a bloodline history and mom or dad maybe even grandparents were Turkish van. The only way to tell is through blood test. its okay if she's not pure Turkish van she's still beautiful. But there's also a lot of look alike to Turkish vans. I had a look alike her name was Masha. She suddenly got sick after a few days of having her and the person whom we adopted her came to get her and we don't know what happened after that. IF your cat is pure you got lucky. But as said, they are rare... If you decide to do DNA testing, good luck your kitty is still very Beautiful. Xx

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1CatOverTheLine said:

It would be incredibly rare for a non-Van to be homozygous Sv / Sv, but with genes which are semi-dominant, a large number of traits can be carried forward. Their DNA proving out would be almost unimaginable, but as with any semi-dominant whose expression is variable, it's possible for the gene to affect the embryo cells which will become pigment-producing skin cells in the same way, I suppose,however if she threw a littler all of which gave the appearance of Van cats, she's probably homozygous Sv / Sv, and might have been bred to a littermate or to her own sire, who would have been also a Turkish Van. Semi-Dominants can and do act in the same way as recessives on occasion, "skipping" generations, and lying dormant in cats who look nothing like their (purebred) Parents. I've seen a little of cats who were clearly Snowshoes thrown by a cat bred from a Snowshoe / Siamese back cross, where W^S was expressed in every case (three kittens), with the same Breed Standard glove markings on each kitten.

U.C. Davis and their collaboration with the Feline Genome Project at the National Cancer Institute in Frederick, Maryland, is currently examining the semi-dominant genes, and the fashion in which they're expressed in F¹ and F² progeny of "mixed" Parents, and they've proven so far in mapping that we don't know enough to fill a thimble, especially as regards linked alleles. Instances of flying pigs and witches will always be uncommon, but it's clear now that some of those pigs do have wings (with apologies to C. L. Dodgson's Walrus and Carpenter).

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