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Please dress the wound with a bandage of some sort until you can return to the vet. Surely you have some gauze or a cloth that you can wrap and tape around the paw.

You can also turn the heat on! Heat would be excellent.

How much milk is the kitten eating? Are you giving it formula every hour?
 
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I am giving it formula every 2 hours or less, It's not taking a lot but its taking somewhat okay amounts. I'll try and dress it, would normal bandages for humans be good? I don't actually think it needs dressing anymore, it's stopped bleeding, but if you ask I'll apply a bandage on it?

@StefanZ  Yeah, I'm trying to take care of it well, but as I said it's not exactly hugging the rice sock, and not really getting the warmth, would it be safe to place it directly on top of the rice sock?
 

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@StefanZ  Thanks alot, I'll try and prepare that, is it okay to give it along with the KMR? Or will it be too much for it to handle? Also I'm not sure if its premature or just underweight/weak, so should I give the "home made pedialyte" or not?

Also is there something I can do to increase the humidity? I sadly dont have a humidifier as you really dont want one in a place like Saudi..
Now when you managed to raise the body temp, you dont need to use the pedialyte / honey water.  But they are useful if you DONT manade to raise the body temp enough.  Or you may begin with it while you are increasing the body temp....   You can of course dilute the KMR powder with such a pedialtye, bough or home made...

If the kitten evere gets diarrhea, a pedialtye containing salts (and a little honey) becomes extra important.

Why dont you want to have a humidifier in Saudi?

Anyways, I presume its rather warm there?  Have hanging a couple of wet towels in the room. Its better than nothing.   If you do have a heat source, have it so the towels are heated and dried by this heat source, so it will let out the damp quicker....  (sorry for my bad english - I hope you understand anyway what I want to say)
 

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I am giving it formula every 2 hours or less, It's not taking a lot but its taking somewhat okay amounts. I'll try and dress it, would normal bandages for humans be good? I don't actually think it needs dressing anymore, it's stopped bleeding, but if you ask I'll apply a bandage on it?

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 Yeah, I'm trying to take care of it well, but as I said it's not exactly hugging the rice sock, and not really getting the warmth, would it be safe to place it directly on top of the rice sock?
Yes, see my post above about the human bandaid. Don't stick it to the kitten, but wrap the paw.

Feed every hour.
 

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I am giving it formula every 2 hours or less, It's not taking a lot but its taking somewhat okay amounts. I'll try and dress it, would normal bandages for humans be good? I don't actually think it needs dressing anymore, it's stopped bleeding, but if you ask I'll apply a bandage on it?

@StefanZ  Yeah, I'm trying to take care of it well, but as I said it's not exactly hugging the rice sock, and not really getting the warmth, would it be safe to place it directly on top of the rice sock?
Wrap the rice sock in a towel, then you can lay it on it.   You can also lay a  furry  toy animal as companion.  If you dont have one, you can surely make one.  Fleece is best.

If it doenstn bleed from the paw anymore, you dont need bother with the wrapping.  I hope.  Still, it may be wise, kittens may soil themselves etc...

The bloeeding from the behind has stopped too?

All bleeding has stopped??   Good, I feared it was some fault with coagulate of blood. 
 

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Turn your heat on! Do not put the kitten directly on the sock! Dress the paw with a bandage.
 
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@StefanZ  No, the ambient temp here at this time of year is 22*c outside, it was pouring rain yesterday. Like I said before I have put 2 warm rice socks around it around 15 mins ago but the body temperature has not raised up a lot at all. That is why I'm asking if I should put it directly on top of the warm rice sock instead of next to it? The cat's body temp has not raised up at all yet, she's still pretty cold to the touch, I don't know what to do. P.S Since the body temp has not raised up I'm going to give it the pedialyte and then 5 mins after the pedialyte I'll try feeding it KMR again. Thanks for helping me so far I'll tell you what happens.

Well I don't really have a humidifier, but I've turned on the heat on the A/C, 

@talkingpeanut  Okay I'll try and do that, but obviously one part of the bandaid has to stick to the kitten's skin. idk how im going to remove it later..

Also the white cat is doing good!
 
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@StefanZ  yes thank good all bleeding has stopped for now, there still a tiny bit a very tiny bit of bleeding from the paw so I'm going to dress it any way. Okay I won't put it on the sock I'll just leave it as it is next to it, I think wrapping it in a towel will have no effect so It's better to just leave it next to it.

@talkingpeanut   Thank you I'll do that.
 

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@StefanZ  Thanks alot, I'll try and prepare that, is it okay to give it along with the KMR? Or will it be too much for it to handle? Also I'm not sure if its premature or just underweight/weak, so should I give the "home made pedialyte" or not?

Also is there something I can do to increase the humidity? I sadly dont have a humidifier as you really dont want one in a place like Saudi..
Are we talking about the same?  Humidity = water / wetness in the air.   I imagine the air in Saudi is rather dry?!

I think a premature prefers a rather high humidity, to not get the fragile lungs dried out.
 
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@StefanZ  Yeah the air in saudi is rather dry, but it was raining yesterday (its cold season right now, yes Saudi gets cold as hell, down to 10*c in feb/jan. I'll try and introduce some wetness in the air, but idk how to do that.. dont have a humidifier, will putting a wet cloth in front of the A/C work? (a/c is on heat rn)
 

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@StefanZ  No, the ambient temp here at this time of year is 22*c outside, it was pouring rain yesterday. Like I said before I have put 2 warm rice socks around it around 15 mins ago but the body temperature has not raised up a lot at all. That is why I'm asking if I should put it directly on top of the warm rice sock instead of next to it? The cat's body temp has not raised up at all yet, she's still pretty cold to the touch, I don't know what to do. P.S Since the body temp has not raised up I'm going to give it the pedialyte and then 5 mins after the pedialyte I'll try feeding it KMR again. Thanks for helping me so far I'll tell you what happens.

Well I don't really have a humidifier, but I've turned on the heat on the A/C, 

@talkingpeanut  Okay I'll try and do that, but obviously one part of the bandaid has to stick to the kitten's skin. idk how im going to remove it later..

Also the white cat is doing good!
You can also massage it, rub the limbs and the body with a towel, or your fingers.  It too raises the body temp.

If you can get IR-lamp - perhaps some neigbour has??   It gives nice warmt, also when you have the kitten up and are feeding it.

If the air temp is 22 degrees celsius, its not that bad, it would be enough with a healthy kitten, but its not enough with a weak kitten with low body temp...
 

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Its very late here, Im going to bed now. Sorry, I wont answer nothing more for 8 hours.


Good luck!
 
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Yeah, I'll warm up the socks again I guess. Also my dad is a bit worried so he's not allowing me to make the pedialyte, he says honey is too much for it and it might kill it.. I'm going to have to listen to him I guess I don't wanna tense up the situation. I'll massage it I guess that might help. Thank you for your help. 

@StefanZ  Okay, goodbye, thanks endlessly for helping me out here <3
 

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Yeah, I'll warm up the socks again I guess. Also my dad is a bit worried so he's not allowing me to make the pedialyte, he says honey is too much for it and it might kill it.. I'm going to have to listen to him I guess I don't wanna tense up the situation. I'll massage it I guess that might help. Thank you for your help. 

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 Okay, goodbye, thanks endlessly for helping me out here
 

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StefanZ is the expert on these matters. Maybe have your dad read this thread?
It's a great idea to ask your father to read StefanZ's posts on the matter but in case you are worried because he had to go to bed, you will be in equally expert hands with  @sarthur2
 

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There are several other experts on kittens here like @talkingpeanut  and @Handsome Kitty  to name a few, but my computer was having a problem with my last post so I hit send.  The main point I'm making is not to worry, you are not alone. 
 

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Honey will give the kitten 'instant' energy. Too much is not good but you can add some to the pedicure or water it down a little bit and rub on the kittens gums or lips just before feeding. It goes directly into the blood stream and doesn't need to be digested.

I only read the last few entries. If Stefanz recommended using honey, please try it. He has a lot of experience.
 

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Yeah, I'll warm up the socks again I guess. Also my dad is a bit worried so he's not allowing me to make the pedialyte, he says honey is too much for it and it might kill it.. I'm going to have to listen to him I guess I don't wanna tense up the situation. I'll massage it I guess that might help. Thank you for your help. 

@StefanZ  Okay, goodbye, thanks endlessly for helping me out here <3
How is it going?  I presume you took your sleep you too shortly after me, as you didnt wrote much anew.

If you or your father is afraid of TOO much honey in the pedialyte, add just some.  The recommended amouth is 1-2 soup spoons in a litre water for pedialyte.

For just  smearing on lips and gum a Little more, of course.

IF it would you to feel safer, do boil it up, and cool down to body temp.

If you can get real glucose sugar; brand name may be dextrose or dextropur, its even better.  Here in Sweden its easy to get it, but many of our forumites has great difficulties to find it.  Using honey or White caro syrup is the easiest to find somewhat instead.

Re the socks.  You know the temp by touching them yourself, if they feel nicely warm to you, or uncomfortably hot.   If they are too hot, its too much, but you will probably want to wrap them up in a towel, to moderate the warmth, and become more even. 

If its not warm, the sock was eithr too thick, or you didnt heated enough.
 

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How is the bub going? To raise its body temp I would have had a hot water bottle and also put it on my chest until its warmed up. I leave a heater on in my Kit room so they cant get cold. Really hope all is good xo
 
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@Margd  Thank you, you are an amazing person. I'll post more pics soon.

@Handsome Kitty  I know but like I said dad is not to keen on it, I still might do it when he's not around though.

@Lozzenga  He is doing much better now, thank god bleeding has completely stopped but she's still a bit cold, definitely not as cold as before.

@StefanZ  So, to update you: Kitten is a bit warmer now but still not 100F/37C, she's still cold but not as cold, now uh there is more goodnews which is that mom cat took notice of her and helped her eliminate, buuuuuuuut she then tried to bite the hand injury so I took the kitten away quickly, so i can't let kitten be around mom without my supervision. Now for the Pedialyte, I'd like to rub some on its lips and gums(if I can get it to open its mouth), So can you tell me how much honey to mix in 1 cup (300ml) of water to make the pedialyte? My other concern along with it still being a tiny bit cold is that it seems very lonely, it doesn't move alot except for when mom licks it it starts squirming a bit, Since it had only 1 littermate which was still born, it is indeed very lonely and I'd like to make some fake littermates so it is not lonely, any ideas on how to do that?

@Primula  He knows about this thread and has read it, but he still refuses.
 
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