My kitten

Hi we picked my kitten up on Monday I was told she was full ragdoll but don't have papers .. she's very small would every one say she's full ragdoll ? Thanks Jasmin

Ragdolls are a pointed fluffy breed and she is a pointed fluffy kitten. She is really too young to tell for sure anything. Some of the features and characteristics are just not visible this young. Without papers she wouldn't be considered pure for showing or breeding purposes. Just on the one photo and comparing to known Ragdolls she doesn't look quiet fluffy enough or round enough for an actual Ragdoll. The fluff could still be kitten coat fluff but I lean towards more actual long hair cat. But the angle and lighting could be giving that affect. Ragdolls are extremely popular and often pointed cats who have long fur are labeled as such to mark up their selling price.

Where did you get her from and how old is she? Can you post some other pictures?

Regardless of her lineage she is a very cute little kitten.

Okay double post but I just saw the other post and photo about her.

No she is not a pure Ragdoll.

The other photo shows better that she has shorted body fur then a pure Ragdoll has and the fluff in this photo is more from lighting then actually there. I am also concerned that she is sick and the other photo helps reaffirm my initial thought that she is probably closer to 6 weeks old then the minimum 8 she should be to leave Mom. How old did your vet say she is? Those combined make me guess not a reputable breeder and further convinced she is not a Ragdoll.

She is a beautiful kitten and I am sure a joy so please don't take it as a negative if she isn't pure. She may prove me wrong and end up looking closer to a Ragdoll with time and some growing.

I don't know what to think iv had that may mixed messages ... she's meant to be 8 weeks but I really don't think she is!

Right away I would expect fluffier coat as well but still

a very striking kitty    assuming then you never saw

the parents were papers offered at all?

jasmincara said:

I don't know what to think iv had that may mixed messages ... she's meant to be 8 weeks but I really don't think she is!

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How old did the vet say?

Where did you get her from?

Ragdoll points are different though, more like an inverse "v" on the forehead. Your kitten could have some Balinese influence though!

At this age, her point colour is impossible to guess, but I don't believe she'll grow up to be a Ragdoll.  I am pretty certain, however, that when she does grow up, she'll be either a gorgeous Blue Point or Chocolate Point Balinese.

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The vet said he thought she was between 5-6 weeks but if was 8 weeks was in bad condition so I don't know what to think .. got her from an advertisement online

Abyeb said:

Ragdoll points are different though, more like an inverse "v" on the forehead. Your kitten could have some Balinese influence though!

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You beat me to it by fourteen seconds, but at least we agree.  When Stefan comes along and agrees, we'll have a Triple Balinese.



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jasmincara said:

The vet said he thought she was between 5-6 weeks but if was 8 weeks was in bad condition so I don't know what to think .. got her from an advertisement online

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Go with the vet on the 5-6 weeks old. The vet has many years experience in aging. I have bottle fed 4 week old kittens and my boy came to me at 5-6 weeks old. She looks 5-6 weeks old to me too just from what I have seen on here. You came to a cat website with a very active community who know and love their cats and people on the other thread agree she is younger then the 8 weeks you were told. I would say it is unanimous that she is at oldest 6 weeks old.

I wish I could say it is surprising but people who rehome or sell their cats through online ads are notorious for saying the kitten is older then it is. Why? To get rid of it. They don't want the kitten anymore and have already had it for a month and a half. The kitten showed some interest in regular food at some point so it is good to go in their mind. It is not a reflection on you in anyway that you believed them. Please take that to heart and focus on her. She is a young kitten and needs loving, care and support right now. The other thread has some really good advice about caring for kittens that young. Let her eat as much as she wants and if she looks even a little worse you run to a vet. 

The people lied about her age and her breed. She is not a purebred Ragdoll. That is another common thing with online ads. They lie to up the price and entice people. Ragdolls, Siamese, Bengals, Spinx, and Persians are the most common ones I see. There is a chance they didn't know better because sometimes shelters will label cats with no real basis for doing so or they were sold a cat thinking it was pure too and decided to make some money off it. You have me who is fairly familiar with the pointed breeds in a general sense, @1CatOverTheLine  who is very familiar with genetics and points, @Abyeb  knows breeds, and others saying that she is not a ragdoll (@StefanZ  can you chime in as you are really good with breed identification too?) A beautiful little pointed cat, a special cat with some special lineage, but not pure Ragdoll. Please believe us.

We know our cats and our breeds; you came to the right place for all your cat questions and needs. We will offer you advice, help with tips to help your little one, be there when you have problems or just need a shoulder, and we would love to see her grow up and become the gorgeous cat we see in her. 

Kieka said:

 
The people lied about her age and her breed. She is not a purebred Ragdoll. That is another common thing with online ads. They lie to up the price and entice people. Ragdolls, Siamese, Bengals, Spinx, and Persians are the most common ones I see. There is a chance they didn't know better because sometimes shelters will label cats with no real basis for doing so or they were sold a cat thinking it was pure too and decided to make some money off it. You have me who is fairly familiar with the pointed breeds in a general sense, @1CatOverTheLine  who is very familiar with genetics and points, and others saying that she is not a ragdoll (@StefanZ  can you chime in as you are really good with breed identification too?) A beautiful little pointed cat, a special cat with some special lineage, but not pure Ragdoll. Please believe us.

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Abyeb is equally familiar, and perhaps even more familiar in a great many cases.

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1CatOverTheLine said:

 
Abyeb is equally familiar, and perhaps even more familiar in a great many cases.

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Sorry for leaving you out @Abyeb  

Kieka said:

Sorry for leaving you out @Abyeb
 

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That's fine! I'm just glad to help out.

Yes, I too have an impression of sooner a Balinese look alike than a ragdoll look alike.

Still, with kittens not much is sure.   its easier with kittens of proven breed, because we KNOW what they shall be as grown up.   But with kittens of uncertain parentage, or from pet quality purebreds, not much is entirely sure.

Of course, if you arent after a big career in the Show world of purebreds, nor wanting to have a foundation breeding cat, this doesnt means much.

You will have a lovely, beautiful cat to love and be loved by, whichever the exact details are.

Hi just an update Luna is 100% a ragdoll managed to track down the actual breeders and she had both the parent both beautiful ragdolls .. the person I picked her up from wasn't feeding her right etc so not sure if that the reason why she was very big! She is 10 weeks on Saturday, still having diarreha but eating well waiting for a sample of her stoll to come back from lab to vets and see what's going on with her! Thanks Jasmin

Did they show you the pedigrees? I'm still suspicious, as other posters have mentioned because her build/markings do not look like those of a Ragdoll.

I saw both the parents both ragdolls yeah!

Ragdolls have different markings though, more like an inverted "v", and a less slender build. http://cfa.org/Breeds/BreedsKthruR/Ragdoll.aspx
If the parents didn't have markings like this, they are not Ragdolls, regardless of what this person told you. Additionally, if said "breeder" did not have the pedigree papers, they can't be considered purebred. I don't mean to be of any discouragement, as you have a lovely kitten, however, I want to make sure that you don't support this "breeder" again, as they have a). Not provided you with a Ragdoll (as many other posters have said) b). Failed to give you pedigree papers c). Gave you a sick kitten and d). As you mentioned, did not feed the kitten sufficiently. There are many reputable breeders, so if you want to get a pedigreed cat as a companion for Luna, please support one of these breeders, whose first goal is to preserve the breed, and provide pet buyers with healthy kittens with predictable temperaments.

These are her parents ...