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post #31 of 62
I recommend that you leave dry food out 24/7 and also offer canned food once or twice a day (you can feed half a can in AM, refrigerate, then re-heat in microwave a few seconds in evening). Cats who have experienced hunger or starvation have stress and anxiety issues concerning food availability. If she is pregnant, her hunger and anxiety will be greater. I have 5 rescued cats indoors, and four of them experienced hunger before I took them in. I have 3 feeding stations with dry food I leave out 24/7, and they also get canned food. I never want any of them to ever experience anxiety over food again. If you provide catnip toys and engage the in interactive play with a wand or laser toy, they will stay fit.
post #32 of 62

^ good, accurate advise right there, @MsAimee   Bug fits right in to your description.. was literally starving and in distress when I first encountered him...NEVER again. 

post #33 of 62
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I started using your advice today, wet food twice and dry food 24/7. Both Hills Science Diet. She is scared of toys....I wonder if someone abused this sweet girl. I'll get some toys that she can play with on her own vs being on a "stick"
post #34 of 62
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I started using your advice today, wet food twice and dry food 24/7. Both Hills Science Diet. She is scared of toys....I wonder if someone abused this sweet girl. I'll get some toys that she can play with on her own vs being on a "stick"

 

That rings familiar...Bug was the same. It took him awhile to realize I wasn't attempting murder. Watching me play with another domestic really helped too. Getting him to play took WEEKS after neuter and indoors.  

 

I'd suggest to start *very slowly*  with a soft, yarn type toy....slow movement.....not intimidating at all. Bug is still upset by large, mouse or feather type toys...he prefers to retreat. Trying again with the soft fabric...he then becomes interested again. 

 

A history of abuse, to some degree, may have been present in his past, as in your kittys.  Requiring your time, sensitivity and finesse.  

 

At this point, I'll yield to the experts.    

post #35 of 62
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Thanks, I'm going to get some different types. This one was feathered and on a stick. I'll try catnip toys maybe....My Gary hated catnip with a passion so I didn't think to try it. I closed the door when she voluntarily came in today and she didn't meow to get out or even go back to the door to get out. Now the only issue is the dogs....
post #36 of 62
Are you still letting her go out? I think it's best to keep her inside. Within a week or two she's going to realize she's in a safe place and has a good thing going (especially with food available all the time), and might not go near the door at all. Of the 5 cats I have taken in, only one wants to go outside. As a compromise, I trained him to walk on a lead and harness, and in nice weather we go outside together that way. But the others, three whom were young feral cats when I brought them in, have expressed no desire to return to life outside. I suspect this may be the case with your little kitty. It will also be easier for her to bond with you when she is in your house 24/7. Whether she was abused, neglected, dumped, or lost and forgotten, she has likely been traumatized and will need some time and patience. The one feral kitten I brought into my house a year ago would play with catnip toys at night alone in her room with the door closed. That was actually a breakthrough for us. She had never experienced playing with toys before, and it opened up a whole new world for her. Have you named her yet? Cats very quickly pick up on their names, and it will be another way to bond with her. It sounds like you are doing everything to give this little cat a wonderful new home and life. Once she settles in, she will be very devoted to you smile.gif
post #37 of 62
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Yes, the vet wanted to spay her to abort the pregnancy if she was....I just can't do that. I'm making every effort to bring her into the house so if she is pregnant she will be safe and if she isn't we can get her spayed. I told the vet I had no issues with paying for shots, spay/neuter for however many babies she has and finding
Homes for them! I'm sure I should know in a week or so right?


OK.  So here comes another part of my "prophesy".

 

I wrote, its very apparent Gary did accepted, even choosed her, as his successor and protegé  - for you to help and protect and adopt.  Of this Im entirely sure.

 

There is another possible twist. More speculative, but still, I think may be true.

 

Soul wandering,  á la the Tibetan Lamas.   What are the rules of it?   Its impossible to know, but my theory and intuitive knowledge is:

 

The soul of the deceased has up to 30 days to go on to the Afterworlds, OR to attach to a new body, to be found again.  The kitten whom can get this soul, its time limits are several days before delivery, essentially when its viable; say one week before but surely not earlier.   And up to about three weeks after the delivery.

So it gives some time to manevreur, and may be difficult to calculate exactly.

 

OK, if the purpose is to come back to the same human, it must come to a kitten whom will be found by you.  Ie a kitten whom you will easily meet.

 

It may be that simple here.  He seeing a healthy preg female at your garden, did chose her.  With the idea to move into one of the newborn kittens in the time frame.  He knew he was dyeing.

 

 

So what does it means for you practically?  Before you do adopt them kittens out, be sure one of them isnt a new Gary as kitten...

 

Let her stay, as his personal representant, and let the "suspected" kitten stay too...

 

 

Do observe, Im writing this as a private person. These speculations and ideas are nowhere a part of me being one of the Advisors at this Forum.

post #38 of 62
I personally do not believe in reincarnation for either animals or humans. I do believe that upon death our soul, as well of the souls of our beloved pets, enter into the afterlife with God. But these are religious views, and everyone has their own, and we respect one another. That said, I do believe that our beloved pets, whether domesticated or feral, sometimes do bring us another one to care for before their passing. Case in point, exactly a year ago, I lost my most beloved cat of all time, Muffin. He was a feral cat I cared for during four and a half years. He became very ill from FIV, and when I got him to a vet, I made the difficult decision to have him euthanized because the disease was at an advanced stage and I was told he had a lot of suffering ahead of him. However, a week before he passed, he had brought his offspring, a beautiful little feral kitten who looked exactly like him in every way, to my porch to care for her. He had in the past brought other offspring to me, and two others are living in my house as well. A few days after Muffin passed, I trapped little "Cupcake" and brought her to the vet to be spayed. I brought her into my home with my other four rescued cats. She made a remarkably wonderful transition to being an indoor cat, was socialized fairly easily, and is extremely sweet and loving and reminds me so much of Muffin. And I know he brought her to me, not just because he wanted her to be cared for, but becausr he knew he was passing and that she would bring great comfort to me. And she does. So I do believe that sometimes our beloved cats do in fact bring us someone else to care for and love before they pass.
post #39 of 62

MOD NOTE:

 

These are lovely and interesting sentiments, but we are veering OFF TOPIC in this thread. ;)

post #40 of 62
AmandaG had mentioned the unusual timing of the new cat appearing right before her cat Gary passed, and her concerns about caring for another cat so soon. I was in a similar situation a year ago and was sharing my experience and views about it but if you feel I veered off-topic, you can delete my post. Perhaps I should have shared that in a PM instead.
post #41 of 62
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I We have 3 inside dogs with full range of the house and 3 small children that may accidentally open a door if we were to confine her to a single room. I don't feel it is safe inside yet. At night I put her in our garage which has heat/ac and satellite TV lol as this is where are dogs go when we leave to go somewhere for short periods of time. I do let her out some but she stays on the front porch and lays on the patio furniture. She doesn't roam at all, we are working to build the relationship with her and the dogs b/c we don't want her outside at all! Her name has been agreed by the kids as Gabby heartpump.gif
post #42 of 62
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@MSAIMEE I loved your comment and found it very helpful and comforting.
post #43 of 62

Awww, Miss Gabby.  That's a great name!

 

By the way, can I move into your garage?  :catguy:

post #44 of 62
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@Orange&White They act like they are neglected when they go in the garage! Gabby didn't seem to mind it at all though! This might have to be her temporary home though, as her belly seems to be getting bigger, so I'm almost positive she is pregnant....I'm going to see if she will let me look closer at her belly tonight so I can check her nipples for swelling or redness.....I don't know that its the best time to introduce her and the dogs....does anyone have experience with this?? I don't think 2 of my dogs care about her at all they are old and just want to eat and sleep for the most part....but my larger dog is only 2 1/2. very active and is 60 lbs. (Gary was her best friend)

post #45 of 62

Well, I cancelled my television service about 10 years ago, so I was kind of jealous that your pets get to watch TV.  Hee hee, lucky dogs...and cat.

 

I have the same conundrum about introducing my new feral kitten to my 10 year old Corgi, so I'll see what everyone else has to say about that.  My Corgi and the senior cat get along fine, but the senior does not run from dogs.  I'm afraid if the kitten runs from my dog, he will think she is prey and hurt her.

 

Looking forward to following the pregnancy story as it unfolds.  :) 

post #46 of 62
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Well, I cancelled my television service about 10 years ago, so I was kind of jealous that your pets get to watch TV.

 

 

 

Not true; in the ten years you've been away from television, there still hasn't been a single thing on that's worth watching.

 

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post #47 of 62
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Not true; in the ten years you've been away from television, there still hasn't been a single thing on that's worth watching.

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Not true; there's tons of old & new TV that's of the highest quality.
post #48 of 62

Between "Keeping up with the Kardashians"  and NY Yankees baseball.....i'm torn.  Makes for a tough decision (sarc)   

post #49 of 62

Remember that "ON TOPIC' thing? :)

post #50 of 62

I think your kitty will take nicely to you.

 

MORE PICTURES!! this can help stay on topic.  :catguy:

post #51 of 62
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Now I'm a little confused.....I noticed a slit in the very top of each of her ears, almost like someone took scissors and made a precise cut. Google says feral cats ears are clipped or notched to indicate spay/neuter.... The vet didn't see a scar from surgery. Is there another reason for the slits? I'll get a picture as soon as I'm back home!

 

I don't see that anyone answered this, but when they clip or notch an ear for spay/neuter it is pretty obvious. The idea being that someone will notice it from a distance and not spend time to try and trap that particular cat again. The little slits could be left over from a fight or, if she isn't spayed, a mating if her ear was torn/bit. I don't want to consider some random cruel human chance of causing it. 

post #52 of 62
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Last night we had the dogs on leashes and let her walk around, I think it went well...she didn't seem scared. She got under my chair and started grooming herself, I would say the dogs are a lot more anxious than she is! She follows me everywhere lol my little shadow.....I take a bath she is sitting on the edge of the tub....I get up to get something to drink and come back and she has stolen my spot  haha I put her in our spare room at one point so I could move the dogs and the kids were in there watching TV, when I opened the door to let her out she was in the bed with them laying down while they pet her. :) 

 

She doesn't like wet food now that she has gotten use to having food at all times...(Gary didn't either) She also refuses to use the litter box if we put her in the garage b/c she doesn't want to be in there.....but if we let her in the house she uses it but doesn't cover which is strange! She does have times when she will choose to pee on the carpet vs the litter box.....hopefully she gets the hang of it soon! Today hasn't been easy keeping her inside b/c she really wants to go out.....and I feel so mean for making her stay in!

 

We have had a name change too......as the kids when trying to call her Gabby would sometimes mistakenly say Gary.....Chloe is what they decided on! They have said it so much she is already looking when you say it!

 

 

 

 

post #53 of 62

what a sweet kitty! 

post #54 of 62
No, you're not being mean keeping her inside, it sounds like she's adjusting well to being indoors, especially in your house (as opposed to the garage). It took one of my ferals about a year to learn how to cover her poop in the litter box--maybe yours is a little slow, too. It sounds like Chloe is on her way to being a spoiled little princess smile.gif
post #55 of 62
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Chloe !!!

 

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post #56 of 62
What a good progress! clap.gif

It's great to hear that she's following you around and getting petted and grooming herself.

Some cats don't cover their pee or poo. As long as it's not a medical issue like if she use to cover before and now she suddenly stop doing that. It could be some pain or discomfort that made her hard to pee or poo and therefore wants to get out of the box without covering the poo or pee. She could be constipated or have UTI.

Other than that, I guess it's just a territorial marking as you have dogs in the house.

No, you are not mean in keeping her in. You'll only be mean if you let her out.

She has such an adorable face!
post #57 of 62

Sounds like the introduction to the dogs went really well!  Aside from the carpet peeing, seems things are going well for your family and Chloe in general.  She'll probably get more consistent with the box over time.  Keep up the good work!

post #58 of 62
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 I tried a leash tonight and it wasn't her favorite thing.....but, Gary was the same way at first. I think I will let her get a bit more settled in and more comfortable with myself before trying again. I remember the same situation with Gary but he was so determined to go outside so we stuck to it and he eventually loved it! Anyone else use a leash or stroller?  Also, since being inside I have noticed her belly doesn't seem quite as big so maybe she was just overeating thinking something was going to take her food!

 

Here are some pictures of my Gary and his leash/stroller......I sure do miss that sweet boy!

 

 

 

 

post #59 of 62
Oh, Gary's such a handsome boy.

Well, time to spoil Chloe!
post #60 of 62
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 I tried a leash tonight and it wasn't her favorite thing.....but, Gary was the same way at first. I think I will let her get a bit more settled in and more comfortable with myself before trying again. I remember the same situation with Gary but he was so determined to go outside so we stuck to it and he eventually loved it! Anyone else use a leash or stroller?  Also, since being inside I have noticed her belly doesn't seem quite as big so maybe she was just overeating thinking something was going to take her food!

 

Here are some pictures of my Gary and his leash/stroller......I sure do miss that sweet boy!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or she may have dropped...  If it is a small litter, she wont protrude much.    "Dont shout  Hey before you are over the creek"  as the proverb says.   :)

 

 

Yeah, Gary was handsome and sweet.   As is his successor and  named  heir

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