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Gaze/stare (is this normal?)

post #1 of 24
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Perry does this a lot does your cat has tendency to stare or day dream no idea how else to explain it. Here's example I took a picture of what he looks like. I wonder if it is wiring down before sleeping?

post #2 of 24

My cat Zoe does that.  She looks like she's asleep, but her eyes are open.  I always wonder what she's thinking about.  :think:

post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by betsygee View Post

My cat Zoe does that.  She looks like she's asleep, but her eyes are open.  I always wonder what she's thinking about.  think.gif

Thank you for responding. Maybe that is it he's sleeping with his eyes open 😂 he's deep in thought
post #4 of 24

My guy does that also.. It kind of worries me, but I have gotten used to it. 

 

I had an older neighbor visiting, who never had cats, and never really cared for a pet. This is funny: She saw Artie doing the staring into space thing... She went crazy thinking he was having a seizure or dying or something. She could not understand why I just sat there and said, 

"oh yeah, he is ok.. thats normal"... 

post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by Artiemom View Post

My guy does that also.. It kind of worries me, but I have gotten used to it. 

I had an older neighbor visiting, who never had cats, and never really cared for a pet. This is funny: She saw Artie doing the staring into space thing... She went crazy thinking he was having a seizure or dying or something. She could not understand why I just sat there and said, 
"oh yeah, he is ok.. thats normal"... 

😂 Nah! No seizures that I see ... I suppose I think he's think I'm a deep thought...
post #6 of 24

Nothing abnormal that I can see - he is probably thinking or daydreaming, just like a lot of us do.  Perry is a very fine cat, by the way -- I love the look of black longhaired cats very much. blackcat.gif:heart3:

post #7 of 24

Note how Perry folds under and lays on the front paws.  I notice mine does this on a perch that is an arm's length away over my shoulders as I sit at the PC.  He also stares straight forward but will focus my computer screen or my face if I turn and look at him.  He never leaves that position.  I think it's their version of being in a hammock.

post #8 of 24

I just joined TCS a few minutes ago (can't sleep, it's 4:30 am) and I had to say -- Perry is gorgeous!  I have always loved black cats, especially long-haired beauties!  I was lucky enough to be owned by one many years ago, and he has been my favorite cat so far.

 

I think it's normal cat behavior.  I have only had my current cat, Indy, for 3 months (he is almost 4, and had lived his whole life in a cat rescue), and he does this a lot.  He loves to lay with his front paws tucked in and just stare at nothing, and I've seen him do it while sitting, too.  I think of it as his "waiting for something interesting to happen" mode.  I don't know if he does it when he's alone, because obviously he's near me when I see him do it.  

 

Maybe, in Indy's case,  he's just enjoying the peace and quiet here (he lived with 106 other cats, so he probably never had a moment's peace or a good night's sleep until he moved in with us!

post #9 of 24
My Zoe is a long-haired black cat, too. They're beautiful cats.
post #10 of 24
Maybe it's contemplation "what am
I doing with my lives?"
post #11 of 24
Not to discount the more positive responses so far to your post, but I do think this Cat Site article is very helpful:

"35 Signs That Your Cat May Be In Pain"
http://www.thecatsite.com/a/35-signs-that-your-cat-may-be-in-pain

How old is your cat Perry?
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by PushPurrCatPaws View Post

Not to discount the more positive responses so far to your post, but I do think this Cat Site article is very helpful:

"35 Signs That Your Cat May Be In Pain"
http://www.thecatsite.com/a/35-signs-that-your-cat-may-be-in-pain

How old is your cat Perry?

Thanks you kindly for the info on 35 signs. I dunno if Perry is in any pain. I'm such a worry wart about my cat. Perry is 4 years old.
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Originally Posted by Elliesvictim View Post

Maybe it's contemplation "what am
I doing with my lives?"

😂 he is such a complimentary boy and regal. I suppose he is.
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Originally Posted by betsygee View Post

My Zoe is a long-haired black cat, too. They're beautiful cats.

Thanks 💗 Yes they are!
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I just joined TCS a few minutes ago (can't sleep, it's 4:30 am) and I had to say -- Perry is gorgeous!  I have always loved black cats, especially long-haired beauties!  I was lucky enough to be owned by one many years ago, and he has been my favorite cat so far.

I think it's normal cat behavior.  I have only had my current cat, Indy, for 3 months (he is almost 4, and had lived his whole life in a cat rescue), and he does this a lot.  He loves to lay with his front paws tucked in and just stare at nothing, and I've seen him do it while sitting, too.  I think of it as his "waiting for something interesting to happen" mode.  I don't know if he does it when he's alone, because obviously he's near me when I see him do it.  

Maybe, in Indy's case,  he's just enjoying the peace and quiet here (he lived with 106 other cats, so he probably never had a moment's peace or a good night's sleep until he moved in with us!

I do gather it's a normalcy of what cats do. Could be deep meditation in zen. I do find black cats are distinctive beautiful and regel cats. Indy now can live a happier and zen life, Perry is the only cat.
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Note how Perry folds under and lays on the front paws.  I notice mine does this on a perch that is an arm's length away over my shoulders as I sit at the PC.  He also stares straight forward but will focus my computer screen or my face if I turn and look at him.  He never leaves that position.  I think it's their version of being in a hammock.

I do wonder now you mentioned the arms folds and how he lays on them. Do they fall asleep? I suppose his deep in thought Perry version of being in a hammock, that is new to me never heard of it
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Originally Posted by Tarasgirl06 View Post

Nothing abnormal that I can see - he is probably thinking or daydreaming, just like a lot of us do.  Perry is a very fine cat, by the way -- I love the look of black longhaired cats very much. blackcat.gifheartpump.gif

Thank you 💗 He very well could be in complete zen
post #13 of 24
Looks like it might been the slow blink. Do you try blinking back at him? It's a way of saying I love you.
post #14 of 24
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Looks like it might been the slow blink. Do you try blinking back at him? It's a way of saying I love you.

Yes! He slowly blinks at me when I look at him
post #15 of 24
Missy even keeps her eyes open while she's laying down and seems asleep.
post #16 of 24
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I do wonder now you mentioned the arms folds and how he lays on them. Do they fall asleep? I suppose his deep in thought Perry version of being in a hammock, that is new to me never heard of it
Thank you 💗 He very well could be in complete zen

 

If Perry could sing, I reasoned his choice of song to you would be "As Long As You Love Me," by the Backstreet Boys.

 

"Perry's version of being in a hammock," I was just saying he is probably zoned out or as you say in "zen" mode.  The paws tucked under seems similar to when we have both elbows on the desk or dinner table, with our face resting between our palms.  Of all the times I have noticed my cat in this posture, he is never asleep.

post #17 of 24
Perry is just using feline telepathy to report what he has observed to the mother ship. When they have enough informationally they are going to enslave all humans - not just cat lovers. 😸.

Actually, I see The Ladies doing the same as Perry quite often. If you have serious concerns, see or call Perry's doctor.
post #18 of 24

My Speedy does this too.  She takes the same pose as Perry (tucked legs under body) and will start to look half-asleep and just keep her pose like that for the longest time.    I always think this is a "stage" before going to sleep.  It is like she is monitoring her environment by staying still and "tuning in" to noises to make sure she is safe before falling fully asleep.   I may have read this is a built-in instinct, but I'm not sure.  Perry is so beautiful!

post #19 of 24

If there is a problem, every single cat including strays i've ever met would be in a bad way. I would concur it's typical. I think they are just in a relaxed state. They do observe a lot so it could them doing what they do best. Maybe for some assurance, Grimmy was doing the same thing for maybe 20 minutes. She just did that little head bob with slow blink and went to sleep ;f

Of course, best thing to do is observe, take note if anything changes in your cat's behaviour, and have a vet check up.

post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by PushPurrCatPaws View Post

Not to discount the more positive responses so far to your post, but I do think this Cat Site article is very helpful:

"35 Signs That Your Cat May Be In Pain"
http://www.thecatsite.com/a/35-signs-that-your-cat-may-be-in-pain

How old is your cat Perry?

I just saw this thread and thought it was important to add to what @PushPurrCatPaws  mentioned.

 

Cats are amazing at hiding pain.  People sometimes misunderstand the the difference between the Sphynx and Meatloaf positions.

 

Sphynx, is where the head is held high up, good eye contact is being made and the cat is clearly engaged. If you blink at him/her most likely you'll get the I love you look back :heart4:

 

Meatloaf, has a heads down position, no eye contact and sort of crouched over.  This position indicates, usually, pain of some kind and can be anything; an infection, being sick to their stomach, dental pain, etc. 

 

It's important to be able to distinguish the difference. If you notice your cat in the Meatloaf position, perhaps a quick vet visit might be in order.  

 

Here are a couple of photos to show how different they are from each other:

 

Sphynx:

 

 

Meatloaf:

 

post #21 of 24
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Cats are amazing at hiding pain.  People sometimes misunderstand the the difference between the Sphynx and Meatloaf positions.

 

Sphynx, is where the head is held high up, good eye contact is being made and the cat is clearly engaged. If you blink at him/her most likely you'll get the I love you look back :heart4:

 

Meatloaf, has a heads down position, no eye contact and sort of crouched over.  This position indicates, usually, pain of some kind and can be anything; an infection, being sick to their stomach, dental pain, etc. 

 

It's important to be able to distinguish the difference. If you notice your cat in the Meatloaf position, perhaps a quick vet visit might be in order.  

 

 

Thanks so much for your post!  As a new cat guardian, I wasn't aware of the difference between these positions.  The pictures were especially helpful!

 

thanks.gifbigeyes.gif

post #22 of 24
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Originally Posted by msFriday View Post
 

 

Thanks so much for your post!  As a new cat guardian, I wasn't aware of the difference between these positions.  The pictures were especially helpful!

 

thanks.gifbigeyes.gif

Glad to help!

 

Really, it's all about the head posture, and the eyes. It doesn't always mean the cat is ill but, it is an pretty good indicator if they are. I think most of us who have had sick cats recognize the difference pretty fast. 

post #23 of 24
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Glad to help!

Really, it's all about the head posture, and the eyes. It doesn't always mean the cat is ill but, it is an pretty good indicator if they are. I think most of us who have had sick cats recognize the difference pretty fast. 

Yes, thank you for the photos, I think that will be very helpful to people!

I didn't want to be a Debbie Downer on the thread when I posted earlier... but I agree with you that people who have had sick cats will certainly recognize a difference in gazes and stares, etc. Hopefully the OP will be able to decipher what it means for the cat, Perry.

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post #24 of 24
Yet I've seen Kabby do what you call meatloaf if he falls into a deep rem sleep. But then again he always sleeps in weird positions he even sleeps on his head upside-down in a half somersault.

Vet has seen photos and he has a clean bill of health.
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