Gettin' Old Ain't for Sissies

ginny · Feb 27, 2017

I think I have a little bit of a miralax deficiency too, lol. So I'm going to get on that today.

I already take 400mg mag. glycinate every night (which helps sleep/regularlity/nerves greatly) but I certainly do need to check my potassium intake as well as my fluid intake.

When I'm at work, it's virtually impossible to stay hydrated, so I'll have to concentrate on my days off. The patients I have nowadays keep me busy the entire shift and lots of heavy lifting involved. Saturday I didn't even eat all day until 6pm. I'd brought 3 bottles of 20 ounce water and had only drank one.

arouetta · Feb 27, 2017

Ginny said:
I think I have a little bit of a miralax deficiency too, lol. So I'm going to get on that today.

I already take 400mg mag. glycinate every night (which helps sleep/regularlity/nerves greatly) but I certainly do need to check my potassium intake as well as my fluid intake.

When I'm at work, it's virtually impossible to stay hydrated, so I'll have to concentrate on my days off. The patients I have nowadays keep me busy the entire shift and lots of heavy lifting involved. Saturday I didn't even eat all day until 6pm. I'd brought 3 bottles of 20 ounce water and had only drank one.

Can you get a doctor's note for a water bottle? I did that for my job because I'm on four medicines now that cause extreme thirst and can lead to dehydration.

ginny · Feb 27, 2017

The problem with most sliced cheeses is that you have to hunt for full fat. Most are low fat, that I've seen. Low fat is a no-no on paleo. Next time I'm in the store I'll look at the profile for the Kraft Deli slices.

ginny · Feb 27, 2017

arouetta said:
Can you get a doctor's note for a water bottle? I did that for my job because I'm on four medicines now that cause extreme thirst and can lead to dehydration.

I'm sorry, what do you mean by water bottle? You mean an order to drink a certain amount daily?

I think my thirst is simply caused by not drinking enough and increased activity, plus I'm borderline diabetic. Last April's fasting blood sugar was 101, so I got "the talk". At the time I had no plans to quit my sugar benging although it did give me pause. I don't want to be diabetic.

Btw, most water gives me heartburn, so I'm less likely to drink it. Now that I've drastically reduced my sugar consumption (fruits and stevia only) and since I've gotten a water filter pitcher, I've noticed less heartburn while drinking it. I hope that continues. I still have water aversion because it used to cause such discomfort after drinking it.

foxxycat · Feb 27, 2017

You need to drink more. Forgive my forwardness but that's very much why you have cramping. dehydration makes us feel crummy. grab yourself a water bottle and fill it every 2 hours. I suck down a liter every 3 hours. I have to. my teeth would crumble and fall out if I don't drink enough.

That cheese in the cardboard box was cheddar cheese and was the very best cheese in the world to me. I usually use extra extra sharp cheddar. white colored. lots of fat in that one. I don't buy sliced cheese unless it's cheddar. it has wax paper between each slice. so very yummy on grilled cheese.

Ginny-you have to start taking better care of yourself-every time you go to the bathroom drink 12 ounces of water. Just put a bottle by your desk/coat and make sure you drink it. These problems won't go away-you MUST start taking better care of yourself. Or have your patient take a sip of their water while you sip yours. You can do this!

ginny · Feb 27, 2017

foxxycat said:
You need to drink more. Forgive my forwardness but that's very much why you have cramping. dehydration makes us feel crummy. grab yourself a water bottle and fill it every 2 hours. I suck down a liter every 3 hours. I have to. my teeth would crumble and fall out if I don't drink enough.

That cheese in the cardboard box was cheddar cheese and was the very best cheese in the world to me. I usually use extra extra sharp cheddar. white colored. lots of fat in that one. I don't buy sliced cheese unless it's cheddar. it has wax paper between each slice. so very yummy on grilled cheese.

Ginny-you have to start taking better care of yourself-every time you go to the bathroom drink 12 ounces of water. Just put a bottle by your desk/coat and make sure you drink it. These problems won't go away-you MUST start taking better care of yourself. Or have your patient take a sip of their water while you sip yours. You can do this!

I don't think I could drink as much water as you do. I just calculated 85 ounces per day based on my weight (0.5 ounces per total pounds body weight) so that's around 4 20oz water bottles. That's what I'll shoot for.

arouetta · Feb 27, 2017

Ginny said:
I'm sorry, what do you mean by water bottle? You mean an order to drink a certain amount daily?

I think my thirst is simply caused by not drinking enough and increased activity, plus I'm borderline diabetic. Last April's fasting blood sugar was 101, so I got "the talk". At the time I had no plans to quit my sugar benging although it did give me pause. I don't want to be diabetic.

Btw, most water gives me heartburn, so I'm less likely to drink it. Now that I've drastically reduced my sugar consumption (fruits and stevia only) and since I've gotten a water filter pitcher, I've noticed less heartburn while drinking it. I hope that continues. I still have water aversion because it used to cause such discomfort after drinking it.

No, it's a reasonable accommodation under the ADA. The note means your employer has to let you carry water with you because you have a medical need for water to be available at all times.

My husband will only drink filtered water and I found a Brita sports water bottle that has a squeeze top instead of a straw. My husband hated the bottles with straws as it took a lot of sucking to get the water through the filter, but the squeeze top moves water through the filter pretty easily. It's not any more expensive than a good normal water bottle and the filter lasts about a month.

Bottle

http://www.target.com/p/brita-bottle-20oz-blue-green/-/A-14332237

Filter

http://www.target.com/p/brita-water-filter-bottle-replacement-filters-2-ct/-/A-14434440

arouetta · Feb 27, 2017

Ginny said:
The problem with most sliced cheeses is that you have to hunt for full fat. Most are low fat, that I've seen. Low fat is a no-no on paleo. Next time I'm in the store I'll look at the profile for the Kraft Deli slices.

The package I got has 6 grams of total fat, 3.5 of which are saturated fat. It also has zero carbs.

Hmm, looking over the ingredients, apparently American cheese is a variation of Cheddar cheese. It has more ingredients than my other cheeses but it's primarily two cheeses, cream, milk fat and sodium citrate. According to wikipedia, that keeps melted cheese from oozing oil, so good for cheeseburgers and grilled cheese sandwiches.

Mamanyt1953 · Feb 27, 2017

Ginny said:
I'm having a scary symptom all of a sudden. Actually it's been going on for quite some time, it's just gotten worse here lately.

My thigh goes numb when I stand up. Right at my knee and a little above it . Actually it's a little numb right now sitting down, but I've noticed some pain in my right groin where I get numb. As long as I'm walking there's no pain. But when I stand, my groin hurts, and my thigh gets cold and numb. I've made a call to a chiropractor (one whom the orthopedic surgeons respect and refer to.) I'm hoping it's something easy and fixable.

If it is any consolation, I've been dealing with that numbing in the thigh for about 35 years now, No one has come up with a definitive answer for me, but I'm still alive and occasionally kicking!

arouetta said:
Be careful, to the body sugar is sugar is sugar. Fruit is literally just as bad as eating table sugar straight out of the canister with a spoon. Fruit has a lot of water, a lot of fructose, some vitamin C and......nothing. If it ends in -ose, not counting sugar alcohols like sucralose, the body turns it into glucose almost instantly. If your pancreas is normal and you don't have insulin resistance, your insulin will act in perfect time with the conversion. If your body is not so perfect, it's going to shoot straight up and then right back down, no matter what the original sugar source was. I compared an apple and a Hershey's bar at one point, you're better off eating the Hershey's bar if you are concerned about sugar. Honey is just as bad as table sugar too, that's not a safe substitute. If you need sweet, go with something milk based. Lactose is just as bad as the other sugars, but at least you'll have the protein offset.

(I hope the links post right).

https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+nutrition+facts&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

https://www.google.com/search?q=sni...-8&oe=utf-8#q=hershey's+bar+nutrition+facts&*

Is there any protein source that you do like? Fish? Eggs? Cheese? Dark green leafy vegetables? Tofu? Nuts? Beans? I know that beans have a fair amount of starch but they are a great protein source. Maybe you could look at reputable sites that give good nutritional advice for vegetarians. Just remember that there are several nutrients found only in meat that the body needs, so find a way of getting those too.

I get so tickled at those commercials screaming "NO HIGH-FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP!" as if the body knows the difference!

arouetta said:
The flimsy American cheese as you call it is actually American cheese food. It's in pretty small print, but it will say that on the front. Actual American cheese tastes really good. It's more expensive and while it does come pre-sliced, it's not individually wrapped. I keep mine in a ziplok sandwich bag.

Kraft Deli Deluxe is real American cheese, so is deli cheese. Every store I've shopped at also has generic real American cheese in addition to generic American cheese. Just read the front carefully. Be aware that real American cheese is more expensive than cheese food. If you get the generic real American cheese, it's probably going to cost about a dollar more than Kraft brand American cheese food. Personally, I think the extra cost is more than justified by the really good taste, and that extra cost is an easy way to weed out the nasty stuff.

Even though my Google-fu is failing me, I remember as a young child that there was some type of government thing that gave some food to the poor and my dad would occasionally bring home a box or two of cheese in brown cardboard. The cheese was really, really good tasting, similar but far better tasting than sandwich cheese. Looking back, I'm betting that was real American cheese as a food supplement program would probably focus on nutrition. I do know that when I was receiving WIC buying American cheese was allowed but American cheese food wasn't allowed.

Ah, commodity cheese! Best stuff in the world. We used to get it when the boys were young and my husband was recovering from severe burns. Any help we qualified for, I took, with deep gratitude! The funny thing is that some of our neighbors, who could afford any cheese they wanted, would always try to buy it from me and VERY good prices! But we loved that cheese. It was NOT for sale!

Ginny said:
I think I have a little bit of a miralax deficiency too, lol. So I'm going to get on that today.

I already take 400mg mag. glycinate every night (which helps sleep/regularlity/nerves greatly) but I certainly do need to check my potassium intake as well as my fluid intake.

When I'm at work, it's virtually impossible to stay hydrated, so I'll have to concentrate on my days off. The patients I have nowadays keep me busy the entire shift and lots of heavy lifting involved. Saturday I didn't even eat all day until 6pm. I'd brought 3 bottles of 20 ounce water and had only drank one.

Rule of thumb for hydration: Take your weight in pounds, divide by half. That is your basic requirement in ounces. If you smoke, add 10%. If you have a moderately active lifestyle, add 20%. If you have a VERY active lifestyle, add 30-50%, depending on how active, if you are in heat, etc. This ideally should be JUST WATER for the sake of your kidneys. Caffeinated drinks DO NOT COUNT, and actually can raise the amount of water you need, as the caffeine dehydrates you. Same goes for alcohol.

rubysmama · Feb 27, 2017

Ginny said:
My problem is I don't really like meat or protein. It's a daily struggle to even get the minimum requirement. But when I do, resisting sugar isn't nearly as hard. Fruit is my new sugar.

Ginny said:
I'm having a scary symptom all of a sudden. Actually it's been going on for quite some time, it's just gotten worse here lately.

My thigh goes numb when I stand up. Right at my knee and a little above it . Actually it's a little numb right now sitting down, but I've noticed some pain in my right groin where I get numb. As long as I'm walking there's no pain. But when I stand, my groin hurts, and my thigh gets cold and numb. I've made a call to a chiropractor (one whom the orthopedic surgeons respect and refer to.) I'm hoping it's something easy and fixable.

B12 deficiency can cause tingling and numbness. And since you mentioned you don't like meat, if you don't eat enough meat, eggs and dairy, your B12 could be low. As I'm vegetarian, I take B12 supplements everyday, just to be on the safe side.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/guide/vitamin-b12-deficiency-symptoms-causes#2

I also love fruit, and from what I've read, unless you're diabetic or have another health concern, the fibre, skin, etc. in whole fruit makes the sugar different from added sugar in sweets or fruit juice.

ginny · Feb 27, 2017

Mamanyt1953 said:
If it is any consolation, I've been dealing with that numbing in the thigh for about 35 years now, No one has come up with a definitive answer for me, but I'm still alive and occasionally kicking!

I get so tickled at those commercials screaming "NO HIGH-FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP!" as if the body knows the difference!

Ah, commodity cheese! Best stuff in the world. We used to get it when the boys were young and my husband was recovering from severe burns. Any help we qualified for, I took, with deep gratitude! The funny thing is that some of our neighbors, who could afford any cheese they wanted, would always try to buy it from me and VERY good prices! But we loved that cheese. It was NOT for sale!

Rule of thumb for hydration: Take your weight in pounds, divide by half. That is your basic requirement in ounces. If you smoke, add 10%. If you have a moderately active lifestyle, add 20%. If you have a VERY active lifestyle, add 30-50%, depending on how active, if you are in heat, etc. This ideally should be JUST WATER for the sake of your kidneys. Caffeinated drinks DO NOT COUNT, and actually can raise the amount of water you need, as the caffeine dehydrates you. Same goes for alcohol.

Thanks, that does help. I was scared because, well, I'm a hypochondriac eating what I know was a very poor diet, and I noticed here lately that numbness has gotten worse. I also notice every now and then some numbness around my mouth too, like today my lower lip has a numb area and sometimes in my left pinky finger.

About the HFCS. The body doesn't know how to process it so the body treats is as if it's a toxin and shunts it right off to the liver for detoxification. Here's a link. Look down to the 4th paragraph (below "Up Next").

http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/sugar2.htm

ginny · Feb 27, 2017

rubysmama said:
B12 deficiency can cause tingling and numbness. And since you mentioned you don't like meat, if you don't eat enough meat, eggs and dairy, your B12 could be low. As I'm vegetarian, I take B12 supplements everyday, just to be on the safe side.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/guide/vitamin-b12-deficiency-symptoms-causes#2

I also love fruit, and from what I've read, unless you're diabetic or have another health concern, the fibre, skin, etc. in whole fruit makes the sugar different from added sugar in sweets or fruit juice.

I do take a multi-vitamin, but haven't been taking my B12 here lately so I'll start back. Thanks! I really like the TriVita brand the best. The one I'm taking now is kinda cheap. It's B12, B6, and folic acid.

In total agreement with you about the fruit. It's a whole food, so although yes it is a carb it's also not just any carb like white sugar with empty calories, and as such can't really be equivalent to the white stuff. Fruit is infinitely more satiating than a candy bar ever could be. White sugar makes me a bottomless pit. It always leaves me wanting more. OTOH, I can eat fruit until I'm happy, which is usually not more than say a half-cup or so. When I'm done I feel full and like I've had enough. That never happens eating white sugary stuff. Never.

arouetta · Feb 27, 2017

Ginny said:
I do take a multi-vitamin, but haven't been taking my B12 here lately so I'll start back. Thanks! I really like the TriVita brand the best. The one I'm taking now is kinda cheap. It's B12, B6, and folic acid.

In total agreement with you about the fruit. It's a whole food, so although yes it is a carb it's also not just any carb like white sugar with empty calories, and as such can't really be equivalent to the white stuff. Fruit is infinitely more satiating than a candy bar ever could be. White sugar makes me a bottomless pit. It always leaves me wanting more. OTOH, I can eat fruit until I'm happy, which is usually not more than say a half-cup or so. When I'm done I feel full and like I've had enough. That never happens eating white sugary stuff. Never.

You're very lucky then. If I touch a berry or an orange slice, it's like a drug and I either feel horrible cravings for sweet or I eat myself sick with fruit.

Mamanyt1953 · Feb 28, 2017

MUST get back on the B12 and B6! OH...and Ginko Biloba. It is about the only thing that really works for my tinnitus. I get so DANGED tired of listening to that wretched squealing in my ears. And it is both ears, and multi-tonal, which is just disgusting. I can hear people talk...the actual noise of them talking, but when their voices fall in the range of the squealing, it sounds like the adults on the Charlie Brown cartoons..".Whaaa whaa WHAAA whaa whaa!" The hearing aids for it are digital, and cost in the neighborhood of $3000-$5000 EACH! Now, there is not an insurance company out there that covers hearing aids, nor does Medicaid or Medicare. That makes no sense! Some of us could find SOME sort of work if we could hear!

Margret · Feb 28, 2017

Mamanyt1953 said:
MUST get back on the B12 and B6! OH...and Ginko Biloba. It is about the only thing that really works for my tinnitus. I get so DANGED tired of listening to that wretched squealing in my ears. And it is both ears, and multi-tonal, which is just disgusting. I can hear people talk...the actual noise of them talking, but when their voices fall in the range of the squealing, it sounds like the adults on the Charlie Brown cartoons..".Whaaa whaa WHAAA whaa whaa!" The hearing aids for it are digital, and cost in the neighborhood of $3000-$5000 EACH! Now, there is not an insurance company out there that covers hearing aids, nor does Medicaid or Medicare. That makes no sense! Some of us could find SOME sort of work if we could hear!

I used to have tinnitus. It went away when I went off of aspirin. Most of the NSAIDs can be implicated in tinnitus; the key is figuring out which one is doing it to you and switching to a different one.

When my doctor's PA decided that, now that I'm officially "elderly," I should be on an aspirin a day to protect my heart I said, "Wait a minute. I went off of aspirin because it was giving me tinnitus. I'm not going back to that!"

She said "Oh, one aspirin a day shouldn't hurt," and I said, "Well, okay, but if the tinnitus comes back it'll be one low dose aspirin a day, and if that doesn't do it it will be no aspirin at all."

Sure enough, the very first time I took one aspirin the tinnitus was back within 30 minutes, so I went to low dose aspirin. That didn't cause tinnitus, but when I needed a breast needle biopsy it failed due to excessive bleeding. I'm now off of aspirin entirely and only use ibuprofen when I really really need it, because it's also a blood thinner, and I obviously don't need a blood thinner.

Margret

DreamerRose · Feb 28, 2017

All OTC pain relievers are blood thinners except for acetaminophen (Tylenol). I'm going in for surgery and was given a list of drugs NOT to take for 10 days prior. It's a full page, two columns, in small print.

Ginko biloba never helped me with tintinitus. What did was getting on meds to lower my blood pressure. When BP went down, the tintinitis went away.

Margret · Feb 28, 2017

Yes, I know. Unfortunately, no one thought to mention that I needed to be off of the aspirin before the needle biopsy; what they told me was to continue taking all of my meds.

Even more unfortunately, I can't use acetaminophen. In the first place, my dad died of liver cancer, which could mean that I'm susceptible to it, so I'm extremely protective of my liver and acetaminophen can be quite dangerous to the liver. More to the point, acetaminophen just doesn't work for me. It will lower a fever, but it does nothing for pain.

(Incidentally, another X-ray followed by an ultrasound 6 months later revealed no change in the breast that could mean cancer, only scarring from the failed biopsy.)

Well, I'm off until late tonight. I have errands that I need to run before weather rolls in.

Margret

Mamanyt1953 · Feb 28, 2017

Margret said:
I used to have tinnitus. It went away when I went off of aspirin. Most of the NSAIDs can be implicated in tinnitus; the key is figuring out which one is doing it to you and switching to a different one.

When my doctor's PA decided that, now that I'm officially "elderly," I should be on an aspirin a day to protect my heart I said, "Wait a minute. I went off of aspirin because it was giving me tinnitus. I'm not going back to that!"

She said "Oh, one aspirin a day shouldn't hurt," and I said, "Well, okay, but if the tinnitus comes back it'll be one low dose aspirin a day, and if that doesn't do it it will be no aspirin at all."

Sure enough, the very first time I took one aspirin the tinnitus was back within 30 minutes, so I went to low dose aspirin. That didn't cause tinnitus, but when I needed a breast needle biopsy it failed due to excessive bleeding. I'm now off of aspirin entirely and only use ibuprofen when I really really need it, because it's also a blood thinner, and I obviously don't need a blood thinner.

Margret

Mine actually developed when I was in my very early teens, maybe as young as twelve, and I have never taken NSAIDs on a regular basis. I was NOT on any meds on a regular basis at the time, and none of the ones I've been on since seem to affect it one way or the other. My dad had it, too. That's what eventually forced him to stop flying.

ginny · Mar 1, 2017

I've had tinnitus for years, especially the left ear. Sometimes I can hear it even with other room noise going on and it's so annoying. But I can't pin it on aspirin or NSAIDS because I don't take them except once in a great while and as briefly as possible. I think it's just due to all the damage from childhood infections and two very bad cases of otitis media, both of them as an adult. The last one was bilateral and I lost my hearing for almost three months. I'm always having to hold my nose and blow so my ears will pop. That instantly improves my hearing but doesn't make the tinnitus go away.

arouetta · Mar 1, 2017

DreamerRose said:
All OTC pain relievers are blood thinners except for acetaminophen (Tylenol). I'm going in for surgery and was given a list of drugs NOT to take for 10 days prior. It's a full page, two columns, in small print.

The blood thinning effects of ibuprofen only last a few hours, which is why they never recommend it as ongoing therapy to stop blood clots. Aspirin takes only a tiny amount to last for days.

Tylenol is the absolute worst thing to take. Back in the day when I was first diagnosed and networking with other mentally ill people, every time you logged on was someone else offing themselves with Tylenol. There was a successful attempt with only 7 regular strength Tylenol. I absolutely hate that Tylenol is in Dayquil since it does take so little to die.

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