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Open the door of the garage and stand in front of the entrance. Did he attack you in this case? Cats are territorial.

I suggest to experiment more, to get more info.

Otherwise, the only straight action is to sedate him, bring him to vet, sedate again, bring home and wait. But in my humble opinion, this way goes nowhere. Except he is ill and the vet treat him, of course. But chances are the problem is not in the health status. 
I disagree. Something sounds quite wrong. He needs to see a vet first. And if it is behavioral, vet support will still help. There are anti-anxiety meds, etc.

OP, are both of your cats neutered?
 

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If the cat is ill - the vet will treat the cat.

But if the cat is not ill, what can do the vet? Attack in the described way is most likely fear-based (does not look like hunting) or defending the territory.  If the medicine reduces the anxiety- OK, that may work for a while. But the medicine will not remove the real cause.

I also said to see the vet first. But to be prepared - look for details, evidences and indexes to the cause. The more details gathered, the easier for the vet to get the overall picture. He/she may be in the position to give some behavioral advise, I agree, but he/she will not do the primary research, most likely will just ask the guardian some questions,  
 
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If the cat is ill - the vet will treat the cat.

But if the cat is not ill, what can do the vet? Attack in the described way is most likely fear-based (does not look like hunting) or defending the territory.  If the medicine reduces the anxiety- OK, that may work for a while. But the medicine will not remove the real cause.

I also said to see the vet first. But to be prepared - look for details, evidences and indexes to the cause. The more details gathered, the easier for the vet to get the overall picture. He/she may be in the position to give some behavioral advise, I agree, but he/she will not do the primary research, most likely will just ask the guardian some questions,  
Yes i understand, but if i can't touch the cat to bring him to the vet then what can i do?
 
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I disagree. Something sounds quite wrong. He needs to see a vet first. And if it is behavioral, vet support will still help. There are anti-anxiety meds, etc.

OP, are both of your cats neutered?
Yes both are. 

But i can't bring him to the vet because he does not let me touch him at all.
 
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Open the door of the garage and stand in front of the entrance. Did he attack you in this case? Cats are territorial.

I suggest to experiment more, to get more info.

Otherwise, the only straight action is to sedate him, bring him to vet, sedate again, bring home and wait. But in my humble opinion, this way goes nowhere. Except he is ill and the vet treat him, of course. But chances are the problem is not in the health status. 
Yes he does attack instantly. He climbs my legs with his claws and hisses and whatnot 
 

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If nothing else works, you may use a fishnet to catch the cat (borrow one from a friend). Use gloves. Once you got it, cover it by a blanket. Pay attention not to suffocate the cat. Use a mouth restraint that let the cat breath while making biting impossible (if you can find one, otherwise a common one may be ok).  

Fishnet is not something I like and I hate this way of catching. But you must do something to catch the cat. To sedate the cat by yourself may turn far more dangerous and to hire some specialist to do it may be very expensive. 

Don't just get in and throw the net. Leave the net on the floor one day and get back next day to use it.

Never ever by no means use human sedatives! They will kill the cat. As far as the animal sedatives, please be aware that the dose is weight-specific and species-dependent. So ask your vet if you decide to use this way.

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From the picture you posted, the cat shows no fear at all. This is strange.

Pay attention to the ears when the cat attacks- are they pointing backwards? Have a look on the tail- what is the shape of the tail?

Make a map of the points you are when the cat attack. Are they following a certain pattern?

Check your perfume and aftershave. I have an aftershave my cat really hates. I used it with big success to protect my Christmas tree :-).

Check the garage - what is inside? Chemical substances you may not know are there?
 

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If there is dark in the garage, pupils are of little relevance. Ears are on "attention", whiskas-not conclusive (in my view). It you go to the vet you may film the cat aggression  and show the film to the vet.  That film may be very informative.
 

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OP mentioned that the cat moves back and forth between two places, if I'm not mistaken? Is there someone else who is able to catch the cat who he's more comfortable with? I assume there is otherwise how do you move him? 
 
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OP mentioned that the cat moves back and forth between two places, if I'm not mistaken? Is there someone else who is able to catch the cat who he's more comfortable with? I assume there is otherwise how do you move him? 
My mother puts chip in the garage and then we call Chip, so when Chip runs away Mori chases him and when Chip climbs the cat tree we tell the vet to grab him and then he puts him to sleep for a while. 

It's very complicated and i know a lot of people don't like the idea of putting the cat to sleep. But it's the only way.. Or else he would jump all over inside the carrier and wait until it falls somewhere
 
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If there is dark in the garage, pupils are of little relevance. Ears are on "attention", whiskas-not conclusive (in my view). It you go to the vet you may film the cat aggression  and show the film to the vet.  That film may be very informative.
The vet has already seen it all. When we have to take the cat to the vet because of some medical issues we have to put him to sleep once inside the carrier. He already broke two plastic carriers when he knocked them over.
 

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My mother puts chip in the garage and then we call Chip, so when Chip runs away Mori chases him and when Chip climbs the cat tree we tell the vet to grab him and then he puts him to sleep for a while. 

It's very complicated and i know a lot of people don't like the idea of putting the cat to sleep. But it's the only way.. Or else he would jump all over inside the carrier and wait until it falls somewhere
Wow. I mean. Wow. Okay.

Can't you use that to get Mori to be seen by the vet?
 
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Wow. I mean. Wow. Okay.

Can't you use that to get Mori to be seen by the vet?
No because we have a special vet. And she doesn't work every day. And i can't come there every day because i live really far away.
 
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Wow. I mean. Wow. Okay.

Can't you use that to get Mori to be seen by the vet?
Only if i come next week. But i wouldn't  have done that until now because i am afraid of the cat.
 

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Ok, to summarize.  I am encouraging the use of a sedative to get your cat to the vet so that he can be examined.  I believe you mean the same thing when you say "put him to sleep for a while."  What has your vet found when they have examined him in the past?

If there is nothing medically wrong, the cat needs some sort of calming medication. 

If calming medication doesn't help after a month or two, perhaps you should consider rehoming him or putting him to sleep.  This is a miserable life for all of you.  I really hope that you can get help.
 

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If his eyes are dilated like that all the time, and it's not because it's dark, I would suspect head trauma or a neurological problem, perhaps even a brain tumor. If you can get someone to sedate him for transferring him between houses, certainly you can get that person to sedate him to take him to the vet. But if the vet can't fix what's wrong, in this case I wouldn't feel bad about putting him to sleep (permanently). He's suffering, and if it's neurological it will only get worse.
 

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Usually, if make dark in the carrier, a cat shall rest. Not always, though.

If you use a fishnet + blanket method to catch the cat (and the jaws-free restraint I suggested above) you may be able to put it inside the carrier with some struggle. Then cover the carrier by a blanket, to make dark inside. If the cat is still aggressive in such circumstances, then, yes, a serious health issue can be suspected.

I do not see a point in sedate the cat to transport, bring it to the vet, then get the cat back in the same aggressive status when wakes up. Ether cure him (if possible) or (if health OK) work to solve this behavioral problem.

If health ok, then working to calm him down may be challenging. But keep in mind that it will be very rewarding as well. Like a difficult football match: beating a powerful team is more satisfaction than beating a weak team.
 

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Usually, if make dark in the carrier, a cat shall rest. Not always, though.

If you use a fishnet + blanket method to catch the cat (and the jaws-free restraint I suggested above) you may be able to put it inside the carrier with some struggle. Then cover the carrier by a blanket, to make dark inside. If the cat is still aggressive in such circumstances, then, yes, a serious health issue can be suspected.

I do not see a point in sedate the cat to transport, bring it to the vet, then get the cat back in the same aggressive status when wakes up. Ether cure him (if possible) or (if health OK) work to solve this behavioral problem.

If health ok, then working to calm him down may be challenging. But keep in mind that it will be very rewarding as well. Like a difficult football match: beating a powerful team is more satisfaction than beating a weak team.
Because sedating that cat will keep everyone safe. The cat or the family could be seriously injured while trying to use a net and a restraint.
 

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Right.  I suggested the fishnet method only if nothing else works or if sedation is not possible for whatever reason.

There are 2 problems in fact:

a) to bring the cat to the vet

b) to calm the cat, if it is not a health issue

Well, if there is a health issue is a totally different story.   
 
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Right.  I suggested the fishnet method only if nothing else works or if sedation is not possible for whatever reason.

There are 2 problems in fact:

a) to bring the cat to the vet

b) to calm the cat, if it is not a health issue

Well, if there is a health issue is a totally different story.   
Alright, the next week i'm going to get the cat. And see if our vet is working. I will update everyone on it.
 
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