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post #241 of 323
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Woke up to find the food bowl a mess again. This time I left him 1 1/2 cans of the prescription food, mixed with water.. He ate just one small can... sigh..

 

I think he is getting constipated again.. he has no appetite for his food this morning.. it is the prescription food, he wants his old food..He is really not going over to it and eating..

 

Plus he left a 2 inch hard piece of poop in the box, late yesterday afternoon...sigh...

 

Will be attempting the sub-q's when he quiets down. I need to get to him wherever that will be.. need to hang another hook in my bedroom..I have the bag warming up right now..

 

I may tempt him with Wild Calling Rabbit, but he does not care for that either. I honestly feel the NV and the Pride line from NV are not good foods for him because of the clay.. but what do I know??? I think by keeping him on one food it would be easier to regulate him...

 

Ok another picture.. this is from my files and was taken a while ago...

 


this was taken in September, on his new pillow/bed... a friend makes them..

 

the blue thing in the background, is his quilt/bed. It was originally mine from my old twin bed at my parents, then became my dad's.. I kept on to it; Artie inherited it.. 

 

 

I DID IT, AGAIN!!!   I DID THE SUB-Q'S !!!!  HAPPY DANCE....I got him when he was comfortably sunning himself in  y bedroom. . I warmed the fluids, He did not even flinch!! What a good boy he is...

 

except, I would feel better if he decides to eat something.. and did poops.. so far nothing at all to eat. I even opened up a can of Wild Calling Rabbit.. He was all over me for the food, but once he got it, nothing.. he did have his cerenia and pepcid, so he cannot be nauseous, unless he is 'backed up' again.....sigh....

 

gotta go on with my life.. have to jump in the shower...Artie only has the steroid to take this morning.. I can give him that later this morning..

He is just so handsome.  Look at that sweet face. :9:

 

He IS a good boy and you are a great mom. You are a great team. He loves and trusts you. He knows how much you love him and that you just want him to be well and happy. 

 

Here's hoping he has a good dinner and things work themselves out normally afterwards.  :vibes: :vibes:

post #242 of 323
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Well, Artie still has not eaten anything.  I did open up the can of Wild Calling, he wanted it, sniffed it and walked away..

 

He did pee, and tried to poop, but all that came out was gas..I think he is getting constipated again! sigh...

 

At 1pm, I put a call into the S Vet about this. I also asked about giving him 1cc of lactulose. If I do not hear from them by 3pm, then I am giving him the lactulose.. 

 

I think he is full of poop.. I am not wanting to take him in for an enema.. sigh... wanna bet that is what the S Vet will advise??? 

 

sigh... 

 

one more step backwards.....my poor baby is hiding in his tent quilt for a few hours.. 

 

sigh..

 

no, he does not seem to be interested in playing.. we have a ton of birds around her. He can look out at them anytime.. 

sigh

post #243 of 323

Praying for you and Artie right now :)

post #244 of 323

Okay, so he's a little off today.  Let's not panic.  Will he let you gently massage his belly.  I used to pick Simon up and massage his belly in the direction of (well you know)  and I would take a q tip with veggie oil on it and gently rub it around his tiny bum hole.  It usually worked.

 

So sorry today is turning into a different kind of day.  These are the ups and downs we go through, but you need to stay positive and strong.

 

Artie will eat when ready.

 

xoxo  

post #245 of 323

*PRAYERS* for Artie to stabilize and "doo" his best ;) without having to have veterinary assistance.  Massage is an excellent suggestion, one others I know use when their cats are in that state.  Maybe you'll have success trying that?:vibes:creampersian.gif:heart3:

post #246 of 323
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  I used to pick Simon up and massage his belly in the direction of (well you know)  and I would take a q tip with veggie oil on it and gently rub it around his tiny bum hole.  It usually worked.

 

 

I'd do the same thing with Sven.  I'd literally rub his tummy so hard ti would lift his back legs off the floor while doing it.  And I'd use my knuckles while rubbing back towards his nether regions ;) He always seems to enjoy it.  I must dmit I never tried the Q-tip with vegie oil though.  Would probably work, or at least help.

post #247 of 323

Artie is such a handsome boy, great work on the sub q !!!

post #248 of 323
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thanks for the 'push' to massage.. I never did it. Artie always hates to have his belly touched.. even with brushing.. I may do that.. and hope for the best.. wonder if there is a video on line about how to do that...

 

the not eating, even though he is taking the appetite stimulant is worrisome.. that means that he is full--full of poops and it is backing up...sigh...

post #249 of 323

Not exactly sure about the video, but one of my online friends whose cat has been diagnosed with megacolon and who massages him for this can be visited at mycatgoma.com.  She's been on hiatus for some time and recently posted that they were going to be back soon.  You might try to access their archives, because she does talk about megacolon in them.  There may even be a video -- not sure, but worth a try, yes?  

 

Here we are; try this:

 

http://www.mycatgoma.com/p/megacolon.html 

post #250 of 323
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Not exactly sure about the video, but one of my online friends whose cat has been diagnosed with megacolon and who massages him for this can be visited at mycatgoma.com.  She's been on hiatus for some time and recently posted that they were going to be back soon.  You might try to access their archives, because she does talk about megacolon in them.  There may even be a video -- not sure, but worth a try, yes?  

 

Here we are; try this:

 

http://www.mycatgoma.com/p/megacolon.html 


thanks, I did look at it.. describes how to massage a cat.. I tried it. I think I feel his descending colon filled with poop, but, that could be a muscle or something.. I will delve into that site further.. thank you..

 

ughgghg!!

Can I vent again! at the S Vet.. ok.. left a message for the Tech line at 1pm. It is faster to get a response instead of just leaving a voice mail with the vet. I waited until 3pm--no return call.. so I called again.. This time the secretary made sure they called me back asap. Fifteen minutes later the phone rang. This tech is kind of 'not so swift'.. she had gotten part of my message messed up with last week; so this week I had left a specific message with a 'as per your instructions of last week', and left dates with what occurred. I was ready.. 

 

She said the S Vet wants Artie to begin lactulose 0.5 cc twice a day, in addition to the 1.4 tsp of miralax twice a day..I should see something in a day or 2.. if not, call again..

 

I am not saying that the S Vet or her staff do not know what they are doing, but it is so painful for me to deal with them.. and Artie has had all his specialist care there. For me to take him somewhere else and start all over again, is too much for both of us.. so I am just going to have to learn how to deal with the S Vet.. I am sure she feels the same about me.. we will have to somehow, come to some kind of working agreement. It will happen.. I have faith.. if I keep bugging her, it will have to happen..

and I have to remember to be more concise and deliberate when I deal with them...lesson learned...

post #251 of 323

Ok, for one .... breath .... relax ... and put your trust in the Lord. I'm sure I'm not the only one praying for you and Artie. Just focus on that and don't allow all this other stuff to steal your peace.

post #252 of 323
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thanks for the 'push' to massage.. I never did it. Artie always hates to have his belly touched.. even with brushing.. I may do that.. and hope for the best.. wonder if there is a video on line about how to do that...

 

the not eating, even though he is taking the appetite stimulant is worrisome.. that means that he is full--full of poops and it is backing up...sigh...

 

I actually used to pick Simon up in my arms so his front paws were hanging over my left shoulder with his face obviously looking back and I'd hold him with my left arm, then I'd take my right hand and go underneath and feel for the lump, mind you Simon had a very long thin body do any lump I'd feel right away.  I'd only do it a few strokes at a time then I'd repeat after a while so he wouldn't get stressed.

 

His constipation was so severe at times, he'd actually come to me and try to poop and push, letting me know he was in trouble.  

 

Now if any neighbors ever saw me doing that they may think I was subjecting my boy to an all together "different" kind of massage, lol but it helped.  I got the veggie oil tip from a cat person I know, or use the warm water paper towel affect to stimulate his little bum.

 

Best of luck.  xoxox

post #253 of 323
Yes, massaging the belly is a great idea. As a massage therapist, I should've thought to mention that earlier.
Yes, you want to go clockwise. The first few strokes, I would just start going straight down his left side & across & down, to move any gas out of the way first, so when you start going clockwise, right side, across where our belly button would be, then down his left side, & across & out, so to speak. this way anything further in has the space to work on down & out. wink.gif
If he has a lot of gas, it might be a little uncomfortable for him at first, so you may have to use a lighter touch, but as you do it more, & if he will let you, a firmer pressure should work well.
post #254 of 323
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I actually used to pick Simon up in my arms so his front paws were hanging over my left shoulder with his face obviously looking back and I'd hold him with my left arm, then I'd take my right hand and go underneath and feel for the lump, mind you Simon had a very long thin body do any lump I'd feel right away.  I'd only do it a few strokes at a time then I'd repeat after a while so he wouldn't get stressed.

His constipation was so severe at times, he'd actually come to me and try to poop and push, letting me know he was in trouble.  

Now if any neighbors ever saw me doing that they may think I was subjecting my boy to an all together "different" kind of massage, lol but it helped.  I got the veggie oil tip from a cat person I know, or use the warm water paper towel affect to stimulate his little bum.

Best of luck.  xoxox




I'm sure the veggie oil helped his little hiney feel better too. 👍
post #255 of 323
I've read that feeding a cat canned pumpkin can help with constipation issues.
post #256 of 323
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I've read that feeding a cat canned pumpkin can help with constipation issues.


Yes, it can help either way. I asked if she tried this, & she said unfortunately, Artie won't touch it. 😕
post #257 of 323

Let us know if the massaging and veggie oil help!  I remember a thread long ago about a cat with paralysis who had to be manually evacuated.  Or maybe it was on My Cat From Hell.  

post #258 of 323

I also put olive oil in Chestnuts food when she was constipated, I found after a while that the pumpkin fiber was too binding and had the opposite affect.

 

I'm not sure you remember Simon's thread, but, finding new tricks was a daily task.  Just when we'd get a rhythm down, he'd change his habit.

 

I also tried to keep him engaged, even though he was sick and laying on the bed, I'd take his flashlight or string and try and play, even if it got his attention for only a minute or so, I felt it was important to mentally stimulate him.

 

Getting sleep is tough, I know all to well as many here do, but TRY...

 

And again, let us worry for you.  Even if it's just for one night to get sleep.

 

You'll figure it all out.

 

xoxo Hope

post #259 of 323

@Artiemom How is our sweet boy doing today? hugs.gif

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@Artiemom How is our sweet boy doing today? hugs.gif


Ditto, how are Artie and you?heart-on.gif

post #261 of 323
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@Artiemom How is our sweet boy doing today? hugs.gif

 

 

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Ditto, how are Artie and you?heart-on.gif

 

 

I think we're all wondering how you are and of course sweet boy Artie.

 

I'm taking this as a good sign that you took the day off from the interweb and are getting into a routine with Artie.  I really hope you got good sleep and are relaxing with your sweet boy.

 

Nite nite, fill us in when you can. xoHope

post #262 of 323
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Hi all, No, I did not forget about you guys.. I thought you may need a break from all my whining and perhaps I needed a bit of a break also...but you asked so here is the update..

 

Yesterday was a bad day for both of us.. between him straining and not pooping and me waiting for instructions.. and then the explosion, well it was a bad day overall.

 

I gave Artie his first dose of the lactulose in the afternoon. He still was not eating, refusing the prescriptions food. I had to give in and give him the Pride rabbit. He ate a bit, not much...I did try to massage his belly--he ides not care for it.. was running away..

 

That night, after the second dose of lactulose, (only 0.5cc) he had diarrhea!!! OMG.. one minute hard poop (and with a piece on the edge) with straining ---each time he moved a piece came out --all over the place... and then diarrhea.. so fast?!! hard to comprehend. 

 

I smelt poop all over me and his plush throw, but could not comprehend where it was. He was clean.. I finally got up and saw it all over the throw. Mind you, I had washed this the day before , Monday.....

And then I looked, and poop was all over his quilt, washed on Tuesday..

 

I cleaned things up as best I could with Natures Miracle... and covered things up with towels. 

I remembered to cover my quilt with a large sheet. 

 

Woke up to 2 large piles of poop and 3 pee clumps in the litter box...

 

Found poop on one towel, on top of his fleece throw, on the floor... on my bathroom rug,  all over the sheet on my bed, and a pillowcase....

Cleaned things off with Natures Miracle and then soaked in the washer with bleach before washing..

Keep finding spots all over the place.

 

He had diarrhea when I got up. He waits for me to get up for a morning poop.. 

 

He did eat all his food from the night...just over a small can.

 

Artie is not eating much today. I think the effects of the cyproheptadine as an appetite stimulant are wearing off. sigh

 

Went back to the NV Pride Rabbit because he is completely refusing the prescription food. I am even mixing a bit of it in with the Pride rabbit...

 

He just pooped a bit more.. it was more formed... getting normalish.. 

 

Artie just looks sick, to me.. his coat does not look good. he looks thin.. and sickly.. 

I do not know what more I can do... frustrated, and not knowing what else to do for him. I am thinking I am almost at my end.. 

 

I do not know what more I can do...He is starting to run away from my touch. He has to come over to me.. if not, he runs away.. at my wits end. He feels so thin....

 

I sound vey down, because I am.. I am trying.. trying my best.. trying to be positive..but I am not sure if my best is going to be good enough to get through this.. I do not know what else to do.. 

 

What is the worst part, is that Artie is so alert.. and has such expressive eyes.. he can see into my soul. He still has a lot of life in him, but it seems to be slowly dwindling away, no matter what I do.. 

 

I am not giving up.. I am not giving up... I am just so frustrated that in spite of all I am doing, he is not improving.. It has been 2.5 weeks of intensive work..another 4 weeks of increasingly increasingly exhausting work... Since December first... 

 

I am exhausted..my brain is totally drained out...

 

All I seem to be doing is washing poopy laundry, washing spots off the floor, washing the floors, medicating Artie, calling Vets, taking Artie to Vets, or ER, running to get his prescriptions filled, scooping the litter box, cleaning it, washing Artie's bum and some of his fur, running to buy new food for him, ordering new food for him, begging him to eat, leaning how to do subs fluids, ...and weeping....worrying about him.   and trying to cuddle with him... and brush him without running over his bones.. sigh...

 

I am burnt out.. 

 

I guess what I am saying is that I cannot do anymore. I am going to keep fighting for him.. and I will continue on this course, but it is out of my hands.. it is in God's hands now.. I am not defeated... just burnt out. I have to give it up to a higher Authority.. and that is God. I cannot do anymore.. 

 

anyway.. Artie is waiting at the kitchen doorway for new food. He is not liking his Pride Rabbit..

 

here is a picture of him lying on my arm, from tonight..

 

 

I love my little boy... he is so precious.... 

post #263 of 323

You DID have a bad day.  And I empathize so much.  I could revisit so many times, with so many of my beloved ones, when things were similar, and I was a wits' end as well as so downhearted.  Now that these loved ones are no longer here, I would give anything to have them back with us again, not in terrible health of course, but just to be able to love them and share life with them.  It is so difficult.

 

My friend with a cat in similar situation uses the dog weewee pads to put under her little guy.  If Artie is not very active, this might be a help to you, too, to save on laundry.  If you can't get those, even baby diapers might work.  

 

He is so sweet.  Give him kisses from me. *PRAYERS* for him and for you too, for better days. And I hope you'll be able to tempt him with some food that he will enjoy. I have no idea which foods he should and shouldn't have, but meat baby food with NO onion/garlic, like the Gerber small jars, has been helpful in the past with cats who are very hard to tempt.  And Soulistic salmon has been very well loved here, as well.  It's very soupy and fragrant. 

post #264 of 323

I am sorry you and Artie had such a rough day. Poor little guy

post #265 of 323
That was a really bad day. Hugs, Artiemom.
post #266 of 323

(((((Hugs)))))   Just hugs.  hugs.gif    

 

You and Artie are in my heart.  :heart3:

post #267 of 323
I am so sorry to hear that things are rough again, and that you are so broken hearted. I have a suggestion that is a little out there but might be helpful to you. Have you ever considered seeking help from an animal communicator or spiritual healer.
If you are skeptical or don't think that's right for you then I apologize for overstepping. However I have worked with one and was skeptical at first but then amazed at how much she picked up on and how accurate. She can do long distance sessions with your pet. You could have her communicate with artie to get an idea of how he feels about everything or where he stands. You can even have her do an intuitive healing session with him where he will recieves healing energy and she can pick up on anything you need to know about his body. I have used both services with amazing results.
the one i use is debbie mcgillivray. If you Google her name you should find her website, Animal Telepathy.
Once again you may feel this is not right for you but it's something to think about.
post #268 of 323

Prayers for you and your beloved Artie. 

post #269 of 323
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I love my little boy... he is so precious.... 

Friend

we have talked many times.  As I may have said before, in time, all treatments fail. Always.  What must not fail is your relationship with Artie, even if that means hastening his demise.  He must not live in fear of you.  At the end (not that he is there) it is more important that he love you than live a little longer.  You may have to choose between treatment and trust and at the very end, trust doesnt fail, but treatments always do.


Edited by StephenQ - 1/12/17 at 7:07pm
post #270 of 323

Would in home hospice care help relive some of the burden of caring for Artie? The newspaper had an article about it about 2 years ago. Besides the hopsice provider mentioned in the article, there are others in the area. I can PM you the links if you'd like.

 

Do what you you feel what is best for Artie but don't forget yourself, too grouphug2.gif If things are getting too much and Artie is just not responding, have an honest talk with whichever vet you are comfortable with and really discuss Artie and his quality of life. Don't feel guilty if the "big decision" has to be at least talked about.

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