persian?

We believe that our cat Jack is part persian. I already had this thread before but I have more photos of him as he is more tame now (we befriended him after his owner died in Jan this year). he now spends a lot of time at our place. But we have two cats who also dont get along and he has trouble trusting so we cant lock him up. In any case the space our both cats get is only around 20 square meters for one and 25 for another (two rooms and corridor for Tabby and kitchen and living room for Snowy). Sometimes we lock Tabby in the small bedroom when Jack is around, but I think it is too small to be there too long only 7.5 sq meters.

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I don't think he has any Persian blood in him. His head, face and ears are all wrong for that, so is his body shape. Do you have any particular reason for thinking so? He is a very handsome Domestic with medium to long hair. Gorgeous tail!

Agree. If you want to put a fancy label on him, so sooner  a look alike to a Turkish Angora...     Or if he is visibly largish, perhaps Norwegian....

I agree. He is quite handsome and I love his little black "beard"  but I don't see any Persian there. Do you have any pictures of his face with his eyes open?

The reason we think he might be part Persian is because he has large but short paws and he is similar body shape to my parents Himalayan: stocky body shortish legs
He is not large so only quite a short cat. The other reason is his fur.
He has a strange "beard" it's funny.

If he has Persian it is way back in his lines. I would say he is a very handsome domestic long hair. He really has no Persian traits that I can see.

Maybe this is just in comparison to our two other cats whose mother is Oriental shorthair. I don't know if she was pure bred either however she definitely was part oriental
So the other two have tall legs and narrow bones and maybe it's just in comparison he looks Persian to me

The cat there is Tabby he is part oriental and don't know if it is visible to anyone but he most definitely is as I saw his mother.

Did you see the mother's papers? It is quite possible for a non-breed cat to look like an breed cat, but not have the genes. This is because cat genes do not work like dog ones - Breed cats descend from non-breed ones, not the other way round. So many non-breed cats may look like Siamese, Persian or other breeds but not have an ounce to that breed in them.

No I didn't see their papers but she looks like Siamese but white. I would think to look that distinctive they have to have Oriental maybe not full breed but she would be oriental. They also have a particular type of voice similar to a Siamese but only one of my cats has that voice- we have a Siamese cat two floors up and neither my partner nor the Siamese owner can tell my cat and his cat apart - they sound the same
So it would be strange to look oriental and yell like oriental but not have the genes for it. If you heard Siamese meow you would know what I mean it doesn't sound same as other breeds.

There are few 'purebred' breeds in the cat world compared to dogs, Persian, British Shorthair, Siamese, Rag Doll, etc, and many cats might descend from a certain breed somewhere back in their linage. Tabby, Calico, Tortoiseshell, Tuxedo, etc, all explain their coat patterns. Unless you have papers for a cat's linage, they are called a domestic short hair, medium hair or long hair in your cat's case. I have a beautiful 'flame point Siamese' with the most beautiful blue eyes, that distinctive 'talk' and the long lean build of the oriental. But he was born out back in my pump shed to a yellow and white mama, so he is a domestic short hair too, white with flame 'points'. I see more Rag Doll or Norwegian Forest cat in yours than Persian, but without papers the point is mute. He is a beautiful baby, and I'm sure he loves you very much, I pray you have many happy years with him, you will be blessed for your kindness.  

I don't know of course if he is Persian that's just a thought. But the cats I have for 6 years are definitely part oriental judging by their mother. I don't know how is it possible that a non oriental cat has the loud meow? Could be your cats father was a Siamese or related breed.
My cats mom was pure white with green eyes. The owners said she was Foreign white from memory.

She looked close to this but pure white
My cats don't have her lean figure or narrow face or as large ears but they have some of these features

In order to determine the breed papers aren't necessary - my parents took their cat to the vet the cat was a rescue and their vet said that he was 100% himi. They had no intention obviously to show him and he didn't have papers for that purpose but it is possible if the cat is purebred or rather not purebred since we don't know lineage but is distinctly that breed so everyone who ever saw that cat knew he was Himalayan.

Anni7 said:

She looked close to this but pure white
My cats don't have her lean figure or narrow face or as large ears but they have some of these features

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Cat on the pic is obviously a siamese of some sort, may be purebred.   If your cat is white you shall compare instead to an Orientale,  whom are often solid colored, AND build as the siamese - they are de facto twin breeds, often interbred with each other.

Yea that was their mother the owners told me that she was a breed but they never shown the papers. I think they said "foreign white" but her eyes I think were yellow but foreign white are blue eyed. She was oriental shorthair or it had some ie she had same body as Siamese but I am not familiar with modern Siamese so I was a bit confused seeing the bat ears and lean look. I grew up in Ukraine and never seen modern type orientals which are real skinny. The only ones I saw were round facedand thicker body one. I thought the mother was sick to look like that but my partner said she had Siamese in her and she did. But the father was some tabby cat - cause Tabby is part white and part tabby and Snowy is white but has some sort of brown grey cross shape on his head - must be from his farther. If mother was pure or not we don't know but she is pretty typical for oriental shorthair I've seen many pictures and one real life cat. In Australia I very rarely see an oriental cat- a couple of siamese and lots of Burmese, rag doll and a lot like maybe 10 himalayans I met all around my area even my vet has a Himalayan.

This is my parents late Himi. He was old at least 15-16. Had pancreatitis so he passed recently. He is unwell on this photo but had bigger furbefore or maybe this is summer?
The vets told them he was definitely a Himalayan but he was found on the street never found owners and no microchip before he came to my parents.

this is with his eyes open as requested before