Could Pine Sol have caused cancer?

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Please..I need your help.  I have an 11 year old male American Shorthair and I desperately need advice...well actually its my sister's cat and I am house sitting him...a couple years ago I used pine sol to clean the kitchen floor...fast forward to last month, we took him in for his annual checkup and had bloodwork done and one of the chemicals in his blood was very high...i forgot which one but its usually like 120 and now its 360...the vet suggested he might have liver cancer...My sister remembered that I'd used the pine sol and now is accusing me of poisoning her cat...she is furious at me and I don't know...Could that have caused the cat's liver cancer?  I am feeling so guilty right now...what if she's right?
 

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You used Pine Sol a few years ago and now his liver enzymes are elevated?  I don't see much of a connection unless it were repeatedly used and the cat walked on it and licked his paws.  
 
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I did use it about 2-3 times, but wouldn't it have shown up sooner?  I mean this was his annual checkup and he had a clean bill of health last year...and the year before...

thank you for the opinion...this issue has caused me no end of sleepless nights...
 

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I think it would have showed up BEFORE last year if you had used it a few years ago.  But even if his labs were poor after the pine sol doesn't mean pine sol is to blame.  Does he go outside?  What does he eat?  

The indoor environment is already toxic.  I've heard it's more toxic than the outside but I don't know how scientific that statement is.  He may be continually exposed to something else that is causing his elevated liver enzymes.

What has he been around in the past year?  That would provide the clue to his current lab values.  
 
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Hi Ginny,

thank you for your feedback...I cannot tell you how good it is to talk to someone about this...I know I'm just a cat sitter but I would be devastated if I knew I'd caused harm to the cat.

He had been on a straight dry food diet until recently when we switched him to wet food (fancy feast)...he weighed about 17 lbs but at the checkup last weekend he came in at 13lbs.  we switched from dry to wet because we were concerned about his weight and thought the extra protein in the wet food would help his diet.  

He has been drinking more than usual, and recently he's been more lethargic than he normally is, which made me think it might be diabetes.  He is strictly an indoor cat...I have to confess I have been busy with work lately and have not had much time to play with him...could that have anything to do with it..?
 

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I wonder could the weight loss have anything to do with his liver enzymes?  Did he lose the 4 pounds fairly fast?  What does the vet say about all this?  I hope someone else will provide some feedback.  @missmimz  what do you think?

I don't think not playing with him would cause his labs to be elevated.  Sounds a bit more complex than that.  I would get a second opinion on the labs and his current complaints if the first vet doesn't know why this is happening.  How are his kidney numbers and his blood sugar? 
 

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I think I misread you a while back.  The kitty has  liver cancer now?  Or were you asking if pine sol could cause it?
 
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His liver enzymes were high and the vet suspects liver cancer...He is going in for tests next week...My sister recalled that I used to use pine sol to clean her floors and suspected that might be the cause...bear in mind that I am simply cat-sitting and didn't know anything about cat care at the time...BUT, since I was the one that used the pine sol,....I'm to blame for his liver cancer...
 

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Unless he ATE the pine sol, I don't think that's it.  Did he walk on it while it was wet? Even so, that was a few years ago.  

 I'd suspect his overall environment, his food and water and treats, not only that but other household scents/fragrances, other toxic cleaners, cigarette smoke or whatever he was continually exposed to in an enclosed environment.  Exposure to sun, fresh air and exercise.  All of that adds up.  And there's the gene speculation too.  But genes can't be completely blamed because researchers now find that certain genes can be turned on or off by environmental factors.  Then there's stress.  Stress leads to poor digestion, poor assimilation of nutrients, and then inflammation which is one of the precursors to disease.  I don't really see how she can blame you for this.  
 

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You need to give us more information. Get a copy of the labs and post them for us. What other blood work was done? Was his thyroid (T4) tested? What about his kidneys? What follow up tests are being done? I'm not even concerned about the pine sol thing, that's really irrelevant at this point and probably plays no role in what's going on here. 
 

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IMO, The correct use of Pine Sol on your floors several years ago didn't give your sisters cat cancer. 
If it did, I'm really going be regretting that cigarette I smoked back in high school.
AND, IF I do find myself contemplating that cigarette?

Do I blame me for smoking it, or do I blame Sue.  (they were her cigarettes).   
 
 
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