Pet Peeves

Primula · Sep 2, 2016

Feel free to vent!

Drivers who make a legal right turn on a red light, but don't check to see if a pedestrian is trying to cross the street on a walk signal. Stupid system here in CT. I have to have eyes everywhere when crossing the street.

Stop and Shop Supermarket does not let you self-check multiple items of the same product at one time. In other words, if I buy 30 cans of Fancy Feast I have to scan 30 times. Drives me nuts.

My iPad has a quick way to get to the top of a page, but no quick way to go to the bottom of a page. How hard could it be for Apple to remedy that?

People who cold-call for a donation & don't you let you get a word in edgewise until they have finished reading from their script.

People who throw trash all over my street. Every morning I pick up all the trash & next morning it is all there again.

People who do not walk their dogs. They drag the dogs outside to do their business & then drag them back inside to spend all day in front of the TV.

misty8723 · Sep 2, 2016

Primula said:
Feel free to vent!

People who do not walk their dogs. They drag the dogs outside to do their business & then drag them back inside to spend all day in front of the TV.

Also people who go out for a run and drag their poor dog along with them. If you are going for a run leave the dog home. If you are walking the dog, then WALK the dog!!!

Primula · Sep 2, 2016

I see a lot of folks running with their dog & the dog seems to love it. Never thought that was bad.

oldgloryrags88 · Sep 2, 2016

I have too many. . .

When people let their damn kid/baby cry on end!!! I don't hate kids/babies, but I absolutely loath the sound of crying. Makes me feel suicidal/homicidal.

The sound of someone scratching a fork or knife against their plate.

When people are stupid. Can't spell correctly, etc.

Poor grammar to look cute >>> kill yourself.

When people let their kids get fat

Anyone that thinks using your thumb and index finger on both hands make 'L's! Only the left does!

When you're driving and the person in front of you is so slow, but you can't legally pass them and then they finally let you over annnnnnd you still can't legally pass.

When people don't put periods at the end of their sentences.

When people rage that its wrong to say you're proud to be white when any other race says they can. (I have nothing against anyone who isn't white) but its just stupid how I can't say I'm proud.

When people wouldn't rewind VCR tapes.

Primula · Sep 2, 2016

I'm confused. You don't like poor grammar & bad spelling, but you misspelled "it's" twice.

oldgloryrags88 · Sep 2, 2016

Primula said:
I'm confused. You don't like poor grammar & bad spelling, but you misspelled "it's" twice.

Typing on iPhone. Auto correct got me there.

'&' is used as in someone (like Andy & Anna for example)

Primula · Sep 2, 2016

Gotcha. My iPad is the worst for auto correct - have to watch it like a hawk to correct all the gibberish it produces.

Don't understand your ampersand (&) comment at all.

oldgloryrags88 · Sep 2, 2016

Primula said:
Gotcha. My iPad is the worst for auto correct - have to watch it like a hawk to correct all the gibberish it produces.

Don't understand your ampersand (&) comment at all.

Yeah auto correct is a funny added thing.

Sorry! Ignore my last post. I mixed up with another post. . .but I also meant that I was always taught that the ampersand is used for people/pets, etc (like for example, oldgloryrags88 & Primula). And, and was used for things like for an example, using flour, water, salt, and yeast will make bread. Sorry if that doesn't make any sense. It probably doesn't. I confused myself with another post. So my apologies.

You're a vegetarian you said? An off the wall question, but I've been wondering this: do vegetarians eat honey? Someone told me they don't, but bees aren't animals? Just curious.

Willowy · Sep 2, 2016

I do enjoy militant pedanticism but it's fairly obnoxious and doesn't make you many friends :tongue2:.

Crying babies make me terribly anxious so I understand that but, well, YOU try to make them stop crying (without killing them

). Or you could offer to do the parents' shopping while they take the baby out to the car. Sometimes that's just The Way Things Are. We were all babies.

Yeah, autocorrect, ugh. I disabled it on my phone last time but I had to reset my phone and now I've forgotten how to disable it :/. I'm sure I'll find it sometime. . .

Putting periods at the end of a text is considered rude. Means you're angry. Probably why periods are used less often.

The right hand makes an L when someone else looks at it from the other side :lol3:. The left hand only make an L when you look at it.

People who complain about how other people live their lives when it doesn't affect them at all or hurt anyone. You want to live my life? Super. Otherwise, shaddup about it.

do vegetarians eat honey? Someone told me they don't, but bees aren't animals? Just curious.

Bees are animals. They sure aren't plants

. Vegetarians will eat honey (because it doesn't kill the bees) but vegans won't. Because they don't use any animal product because they think it's wrong to exploit animals for human gain.

profdanglais · Sep 2, 2016

oldgloryrags88 said:
When people rage that its wrong to say you're proud to be white when any other race says they can. (I have nothing against anyone who isn't white) but its just stupid how I can't say I'm proud.

When people of colour talk about their pride, they are talking about not allowing themselves to be devalued by a society that prizes whiteness above all. When white people talk about their pride they are talking about something that they did nothing to earn but that affords them tremendous privilege. One is an attempt to reframe a bad and abusive narrative and the other reinforces that bad narrative. With all the benefits that being white brings you, do you really resent people of colour for having one small thing that is acceptable for them but not for you?

caitini · Sep 2, 2016

People who don't understand "stand to the right, walk to the left". It's not freaking rocket science!!!

oldgloryrags88 · Sep 2, 2016

profdanglais said:
When people of colour talk about their pride, they are talking about not allowing themselves to be devalued by a society that prizes whiteness above all. When white people talk about their pride they are talking about something that they did nothing to earn but that affords them tremendous privilege. One is an attempt to reframe a bad and abusive narrative and the other reinforces that bad narrative. With all the benefits that being white brings you, do you really resent people of colour for having one small thing that is acceptable for them but not for you?

I meant for Asians, Mexicans, Africans, etc for it to be okay and encouraged for them to say that they're proud to be who they are (which is great) but if an American or similar white person says they're proud to be what they are, it is instant hate towards them. That is not fair at all. You should be proud of yourself regardless (which is why I said I have nothing against anyone who isn't white). This is very similar to when women say they're proud to be female, but if a man says they're proud to be male, they're almost instantly viewed as being sexist. Again, not far. I am a female but I will not hold anything against a man for saying he's proud to be a male. What is the difference? They're both unfair.

I have a African-American employee and guess what? She is the nicest one there. I have had lots of different colored friends, I do not resent anyone over color or looks. I judge on how they treat me and others and how I treat them and others. That's all.

It is a little absured how being proud of yourself must first be granted by hardships. . .white colored people deserve to be proud of themselves too; we too, like any other color have hardships. Ever heard the term cra*cker? That's a white person and the saying comes from 'to crack a whip' (as in for slaves. Yes, whites too were slaves, and women and children). Or cra*ker means someone from the south. N*gger on the other hand means 'color black' or just 'black'. I hate both words which is why I blurred them out (plus I'm not sure what if any profanity is allowed on this site). So yeah, everyone and every race I know of went through hardships or is going through hardships. No need to devalue people over their color or hardships. We're all people and all deserved to be treated equally with rights.

oldgloryrags88 · Sep 2, 2016

Willowy said:
I do enjoy militant pedanticism but it's fairly obnoxious and doesn't make you many friends :tongue2:.

Crying babies make me terribly anxious so I understand that but, well, YOU try to make them stop crying (without killing them ). Or you could offer to do the parents' shopping while they take the baby out to the car. Sometimes that's just The Way Things Are. We were all babies.

Yeah, autocorrect, ugh. I disabled it on my phone last time but I had to reset my phone and now I've forgotten how to disable it :/. I'm sure I'll find it sometime. . .

Putting periods at the end of a text is considered rude. Means you're angry. Probably why periods are used less often.

The right hand makes an L when someone else looks at it from the other side :lol3:. The left hand only make an L when you look at it.

People who complain about how other people live their lives when it doesn't affect them at all or hurt anyone. You want to live my life? Super. Otherwise, shaddup about it.

Bees are animals. They sure aren't plants . Vegetarians will eat honey (because it doesn't kill the bees) but vegans won't. Because they don't use any animal product because they think it's wrong to exploit animals for human gain.

Lol the 1st is me. I love an intelligent person. Not one that is a know it all, but just smart. I don't handle lesser intelligence very well...

Nope, it doesn't make me anxious at all. Just angry or even enraged. I know that is terrible but I am only human and cannot help how I feel. Literal hatred of certain sounds is a real disorder (I am about 90% sure I have it) look it up, I can't remember the name at the moment though. I would never intentionally harm a baby. I just depise the sound. I wish I didn't as I find them adorable in every other way.

I don't understand how that would make you appear angry? It looks proper to me. Is this a new trend? I am young (in between the ages of 16-25) and have never heard of this??? I was always taught it was proper and good English.

Bees are insects (not sure if that's in the same class as 'real' animals like dogs, humans, cats, etc). Honey has been used for thousands of years for medicine. Pretty amazing actually.

oldgloryrags88 · Sep 2, 2016

caitini said:
People who don't understand "stand to the right, walk to the left". It's not freaking rocket science!!!

I had a woman scream this at me one time. She was on rollar blades and spiraling out of control. Funny part was that rollar blades were prohibited there.

profdanglais · Sep 2, 2016

I know what you meant @oldgloryrags88, and I'm sure you didn't intend to be offensive. But privilege is a funny thing. People who have it almost never recognise it, and that obliviousness just emphasises even more the struggle that less privileged people have. There's no need to proclaim that you're proud to be white, because white people are never told they should be otherwise than proud. White people are never told that their skin colour or their ethnic heritage is something that they should be ashamed of or something that may hold them back from what they want to do. White people see other white people in positions of power, influence, wealth, and fame, so there is no reason for them to believe that they can't have those things. The experience of people of colour is very different. They almost never see anyone who looks like them on television or in films, and if they do that person is probably the sidekick or the villain. Their political representatives don't look like them. They are followed in shops. They are more likely to be ignored by educators. The police are disproportionately suspicious of them. Well meaning white folks talk about all the POC friends they have and how great they are without recognising how patronising that attitude is. For POC, declaring that they have pride in their race is a way of not allowing these things to drag them down, of not allowing a white-dominated society to make them feel lesser. White people don't need this declaration of pride because their race brings them nothing but advantages. That doesn't mean life is easy for all white people, but that's not really the point.

In an ideal world, no one would be proud of their race, because it's not something that is earned. However, in this imperfect world less privileged people need to be able to declare pride in what they are, otherwise that thing they didn't ask for and have no control over will continue to disadvantage them all their lives.

I don't want to start a flame war here, but one of my pet peeves is people who are oblivious of the benefits their privilege has brought them. This is not just about white people, but any member of a privileged group who can't or won't acknowledge that membership in that group gives them an advantage over non-members. If you are:

white
male
straight
cisgender
abled
free from mental illness
free from chronic illness
university educated
a native English speaker
living in a developed country
gainfully employed
sheltered from the elements

then you are a member of a privileged group. If you can tick more than one of those boxes you are highly privileged and if you can tick all of them you are among the most privileged people in the world.

Having privilege absolutely doesn't mean that your life is automatically easy. You may think to yourself "How does having a job make me privileged? I worked hard to get where I am and I earned what I have!" Of course this is true. But less privileged people work hard too. The fact that your hard work brought you rewards, the fact that you had the opportunity to earn things, even to earn a better life, that is privilege and many people don't have it.

In short, declaring pride in one's race is a way of overcoming adversity for people of colour, for white people it is a big old middle finger up to everyone who isn't a member of that highly privileged group. Maybe that's not fair but on the grand scale of unfairness, it hardly even registers.

oldgloryrags88 · Sep 3, 2016

Cool I will respect that.

I have no clue why having a job would make me privileged. I've worked very hard to be where I am and honestly, I am very proud of myself. It's not because I'm white or female I think, it's because I had the determination to succeed with something I really wanted. Any one who has drive could of done that. Having a job isn't a privilege. It's drive and determination for that person wanting to achieve that goal. I feel very sorry for my society that thinks whites are superior, but that isn't my fault. I do not associate whites with power. You can't help what color you are but you can help how you precieve it, and in my mind there is no issue with being happy for who you are. I am very proud to be an American, simply because of my history. I am truly sorry for anyone that is devalued regardless of their color or age, but I am not one of those who will ever knowingly devalue someone with intention.

I am not patronizing anyone. That woman I spoke of before (my employee) is an amazingly kind person. I don't care what color she is, my words were true and meaningful to her. Of course I don't favor her or make her above others (I have some very good other employees too).

I don't think I am previlaged. My job has nothing to do with being previlaged. I've worked very hard to get where I am. Where I live is suppose to be a free country. I feel sad for those that think there is a need to put labels on people, we're all human. Labels are for clothes.

I have nothing against black people, yellow, white, whatever color someone is does not define who or what their value is as a person or a living being. What makes me mad is when people think whites are racist and privileged (I'm not pointing this at you). I'm sure some are, but I am certainly not.

Willowy · Sep 3, 2016

It's not because I'm white or female I think, it's because I had the determination to succeed with something I really wanted. Any one who has drive could of done that.

No, this isn't true at all. You can have all the determination and drive in the world, but if someone won't hire you/promote you/trust you because of their prejudices, you aren't going to get anywhere. I know people who work much harder than I do, work 3 jobs, and still can't get by because they have never been given the opportunity at a job that pays more than minimum wage. Without the privilege of being able to fall back on family I wouldn't own a house, without the privilege of growing up in a middle-class home I wouldn't have the knowledge or opportunity to have gotten a good job, etc. Privilege is hard to see in your own life

.

For instance, if you had grown up in a situation where, at age 13, you had to get a job at a fast-food place to feed your siblings, try to keep your grades up, and take care of an ill parent, you would not have had an opportunity to get your high-paying job. If you were not white, maybe people would have looked at you and said "she can't do this" and they would not have trusted you with the job.

In other words, if you actually believe anybody can get the job you have, hook us all up

. Truth is, you got lucky at some point. You knew someone or stumbled into an opportunity. Your parents made choices for you that led to that point. You had the free time and knowledge to be able to pursue it at such a young age. Those are not things everybody is privileged to have.

And, yes, misophonia. I'd have to say that misophonia is one of my pet peeves

. OK, I know people can't help their neurological oddities but they CAN control how they conduct themselves around other people. Having the misfortune to grow up with a parent who has misophonia, I just want to say---get some earplugs and don't make other people's lives miserable because of your issues. There is nothing worse than trying to innocently eat a meal and having someone freak out every time your fork touches the plate.

kkoerner · Sep 3, 2016

profdanglais said:
I know what you meant @oldgloryrags88, and I'm sure you didn't intend to be offensive. But privilege is a funny thing. People who have it almost never recognise it, and that obliviousness just emphasises even more the struggle that less privileged people have. There's no need to proclaim that you're proud to be white, because white people are never told they should be otherwise than proud. White people are never told that their skin colour or their ethnic heritage is something that they should be ashamed of or something that may hold them back from what they want to do. White people see other white people in positions of power, influence, wealth, and fame, so there is no reason for them to believe that they can't have those things. The experience of people of colour is very different. They almost never see anyone who looks like them on television or in films, and if they do that person is probably the sidekick or the villain. Their political representatives don't look like them. They are followed in shops. They are more likely to be ignored by educators. The police are disproportionately suspicious of them. Well meaning white folks talk about all the POC friends they have and how great they are without recognising how patronising that attitude is. For POC, declaring that they have pride in their race is a way of not allowing these things to drag them down, of not allowing a white-dominated society to make them feel lesser. White people don't need this declaration of pride because their race brings them nothing but advantages. That doesn't mean life is easy for all white people, but that's not really the point.

In an ideal world, no one would be proud of their race, because it's not something that is earned. However, in this imperfect world less privileged people need to be able to declare pride in what they are, otherwise that thing they didn't ask for and have no control over will continue to disadvantage them all their lives.

I don't want to start a flame war here, but one of my pet peeves is people who are oblivious of the benefits their privilege has brought them. This is not just about white people, but any member of a privileged group who can't or won't acknowledge that membership in that group gives them an advantage over non-members. If you are:

white
male
straight
cisgender
abled
free from mental illness
free from chronic illness
university educated
a native English speaker
living in a developed country
gainfully employed
sheltered from the elements

then you are a member of a privileged group. If you can tick more than one of those boxes you are highly privileged and if you can tick all of them you are among the most privileged people in the world.

Having privilege absolutely doesn't mean that your life is automatically easy. You may think to yourself "How does having a job make me privileged? I worked hard to get where I am and I earned what I have!" Of course this is true. But less privileged people work hard too. The fact that your hard work brought you rewards, the fact that you had the opportunity to earn things, even to earn a better life, that is privilege and many people don't have it.

In short, declaring pride in one's race is a way of overcoming adversity for people of colour, for white people it is a big old middle finger up to everyone who isn't a member of that highly privileged group. Maybe that's not fair but on the grand scale of unfairness, it hardly even registers.

I agree with this for the most part...but I do want to point out a couple of things.

1. There are many GREAT African American actors, that are not always playing the villian. Nown, if we went back years ago, this wouldn't be the case...but if we live in the present and not the past then that's what we should focus on. Same goes for positions of power and successful careers. It would be silly to say that a black child in today's world is growing up not seeing this.... depending on their family situation this may be all they are raised to know. On the other hand, those in severe poverty may never see these role models. Same could be said for anyone in severe poverty though.

2. If we consider the list you posted of "privileged" groups, then a African American woman has the ability to check off ALL except TWO of those boxes...an African American male has the ability to check off ALL but ONE of them. Both situations would make them "highly privileged" in the scenario....and I know several people who fit that exact scenario...but they still say they are proud of their race. Now, some of these people were BORN into a privileged family. Some weren't. For those A.A. males, born to a privileged family, therefore didn't earn privilege, and would be considered highly privileged according to what you posted....would saying they are proud of their race not be sort of the same as a white person doing so? What if the white person couod only check a few boxes...maybe even only 1 or 2? What if they can check many but came from severe poverty and worked hard to check those boxes off? I get what you are trying to say...but it just really isn't all or nothing here. Or...black or white.

I don't think white people should be walking around protesting black pride. I don't think they should be shouting white pride....because that obviously brings up other issues unrelated to just being proud of who you are.
but I really don't think ANY race should be shouting ______ pride. Because being proud of your race doesn't make sense. Be proud to be who you are (which in a black person's case should include BLACK, white person's should include WHITE) because NO ONE should be ashamed of who or what they are unless they are choosing to do something WRONG. And race/color can't be wrong. All should be proud of where we make it to in life as long as we try our best.
I get what black pride is SUPPOSED to mean and if it really meant that, I agree. But it should instead be...I'm strong, I'm proud of who I am and can be, I WILL NOT be ashamed or made to feel that way because of my skin color...money made...were I live...etc. And this even goes for skin TONE, because darker gets made fun of by other blacks, too light gets made fun of too. It's insane.

We look at animals, cats for instance, and we love all the different body types, colors, eye colors, "hairstyles" vocal abilities, athletic abilities....but we turn around and look at our own species...HUMAN....and we are disgusted by the exact same thing we love about animals? That is just incredibly stupid. I think it's amazing how we are all so different but....the same....

muffy · Sep 3, 2016

Judgemental people

People that tailgate or cut you off and don't use turning signals

Telemarketers

People coming to the door to sell things

Being called stupid because I'm not a good speller

People deny being prejudice over and over even though they clearly are

DreamerRose · Sep 3, 2016

oldgloryrags88 said:
I was always taught that the ampersand is used for people/pets, etc (like for example, oldgloryrags88 & Primula). And, and was used for things like for an example, using flour, water, salt, and yeast will make bread. Sorry if that doesn't make any sense. It probably doesn't. I confused myself with another post. So my apologies.

The ampersand is used only in the name of companies, for instance, Smith & Sons or Joss & Main. It should be spelled out in all other cases.

I could go on and on about grammar and spelling peeves. "Cannot" is one word. It's "sneaked," not "snuck." It's "between you and me," not "between you and I." In the US, commas and periods are placed inside quotes, and that goes for Wikipedia, too, which is egregious in its British usage of placing them outside. Then there are the homonyms. People, especially on the Internet, confuse "reign" and "rein," "bread" and "bred," and dozens more.

I hate the buzzwords that fill campaign coverage: pivot, surrogate, campaign cycle. "Pivot" has been used so often it's lost its meaning.

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