apple cider vinegar for peeing or bladder problems? UTI

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My cat is peeing everywhere.....I put out another lower litter box.
He is also vomiting everywhere and constantly. I have no idea why and haven't gotten to a vet yet.
What do I do, feed him water and just some tiny snacks?  I am putting ACV in small bites of wet food.
He doesn't look or act run down or sick, he runs when I put out food, he looks fine. He's not low energy or sleeping more than usual, he doesn't look sick, he's just peeing and vomiting.

I'm worried about the peeing, I read online you can put apple cider vinegar in their food to prevent urinary or bladder problems? It also said the vet would do some nasty operation that is very expensive and painful, if there is any blockage or crystals. I haven't taken him to a vet yet because I am low on money but will when I can.

Do you put the apple cider vinegar in their food? Or put it with a little syringe with water in his mouth? Article said she gave it for five days with a  urinary tract supplement and everything was fine.
I am going to get pet naturals of vermont UT tract support because I think the brand is high quality. Is this good to do?
How much apple cider vinegar do you give them?
I heard this could be serious quickly which is nervewracking, fatal within 1 to 2 days??  j-sus. Is that for crystals or urinary track infection? maybe it's rare and these articles are there just to scare us.
This article said use the ACV for five days, instead of some horrificly invasive operation from the vet, that would cost thousands and is painful to the cat, they have to go under anesthesia.
I had a breakdown and couldn't sleep all night when I read this and didn't have a way to get to the 24 hour grocery to get ACV, I'm stuck right now without a car.

How do you prevent this, this is urinary track infection overall? I think all you do is feed them wet food, not dry. And give them supplements? All the time or a few times a year?
I can't be out working and worried he could be dead when I get home. My guy is SO attached to me.   

He is  peeing everywhere so I put a tarp down in one room.  He has always used his box, never had problems before. Is he nervous and upset? Or he has UTI?
He took a nap today, and I was like oh my god good my little sweet demon is on a nap,  he woke up and peed right where he was sleeping!
Why is he peeing?? And vomiting? What should I feed him?
Someone said cooked beef or cooked white rice.

I am feeding him now only wet food because I heard the dry food is really bad for them and can cause problems.
Also a guy at a pet shop said tuna will actually cause bladder problems, and to avoid tuna and makarel. He said ocean fish, salmon are okay, I am vegetarian so hate buying beef or chicken. What about shrimp or cod or small fish?

I guess dry food is the problem with urine or bladder problems? No one told me this before, I had no idea.

He has never vomited before either.
He started when I tried to feed him some vegetables, like he didn't like red cabbage, and cooked eggs.
I saw probiotics in the store would that be good?
 

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Sorry, but your cat really needs to see a vet now. It sounds like he is in a lot of pain. He is also not getting any nutrition if he is throwing up constantly.

Call your vet and see if they will work with you. You can also apply for care credit. This is an emergency. Your cat is very sick.
 
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For the vomiting, does anyone know what food to feed to sooth the stomach so he doesn't keep throwing up?
Wet food right? I've been buying weruva or newman's own, something decent quality.

I'll feed no food today since he has been vomiting, isn't that what you do, feed water only if they've been vomiting? He'll be hungry poor guy but better to do it.

I just found this complex article about vomiting, and will stop feeding milk.
I am vegan but had some milk around.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2010/11/09/vomitting-pet-cat-health.aspx

Probiotics ? I've seen these for pets in the pharmacy in the fridge.

I'm feeding my babe little tiny snacks, but last night I fed him one small spoonful and he vomited right away.

I was feeding some vegetables a while back and didn't know they can't digest these so maybe I messed up his stomach, I feel bad but was just trying to feed him healthy snacks.

Poor babe.....I am really stressed my cat hasn't been sick in 6 years. Ever! Don't know how to rebuild his stomach, I have a weak stomach myself from coffee and drink apple cider vinegar, I don't know how to do it with cats.

The meat roll is Abadi brand, it's a pet line and is frozen.
I don't think he vomited on this, it's raw beef, (yuck I am vegetarian but had to buy this once or twice). The pharmacy guy said to cook it if the cat was vomiting, not sure to believe that, he's a human pharmacist. The guy who recommended cooking this beef and feeding rice, I believe you  if you are saying not to feed cats rice. Guess he doesn't know.
 

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As long as he is peeing, he  is NOT in danger of dying from a blockage.  It's blocking that is what can kill a cat within 24 hours.  Peeing all over the place shows he definitely is NOT blocked
.  WHY he is peeing all over the place is another story.   That we cannot answer, but he's certianly trying to tell you something is not right.  It could be he has a raging Urinary Tract Infection.  Sometimes there is just no way to prevent that from happening.  Like with humans, sometimes it just happens.  But feeding wet food, and not too much fish, is best, in my opinion.  Stress can play a huge part in UTIs, or anything related to the bladder in cats.  Is he under undue stress at the moment, for any reason.  Maybe something happening outside that is unusual?  Or in your home?  Whatever it is, something is going on and he needs help.  You really do need to get him to the Vet, because he probably needs antibiotics, either that or possibly pain meds.  Is there any blood in the urine?  If so, that's usually a different problem, which means he's probably in pain. 

As to the apple cider vinegar, my guess is that may be why he's throwing up!  How you trying drinking that stuff?  And remember, cat's have a much better sense of smell than WE do.  From what little I know about using it, I've heard of people putting a little bit of it between the cat's shoulder blades so they can't lick it


Otherwise, cats do not need veggies, but most of them don't make them throw up...I guess it depends on what you were feeding him.  Onions and garlic ARE toxic,  I've not heard of cabbage being a problem.  Eggs are actually GOOD for cats.   If you want to give him milk, only GOAT's Milk would be ok.  Most adult cats are actually lactose intolerant. 

Has the vomiting stopped yet, since you tried somethings already?   The problem is, if you stop feeding him, then he's apt to throw up due to excess stomach acid
.  So...vomiting IS complicated.   It can be from stomach acid, can be from something they ate, from not eating enough, etc.  OH, and as to probiotics, I do feed my guys probiotics every single day.  It's just part of their routine.  I give them the same ones we take.  they just get 1/2 capsule in the morning and 1/2 in the evening, mixed into their canned food.
 

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I am a human doctor, not a vet and anything that I say concerning felines should be checked with a vet.  Having written that, I am not aware that apple cider vinegar, or any other vinegar, helps urinary problems in humans, nor cats, and you should stop trying to give it to your cat.    The best  advice that I can give you is to somehow take your cat to a vet as soon as possible and do not try to treat these serious symptoms yourself. 

With kind regards,

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Thanks so much I am reading everything everyone wrote.
He doesn't want to eat or drink too much, weak and miserable looking,
walking slow.  He'll eat a tiny bit but not a lot.

Is newman's own chicken/fish wet food okay to feed him if he's run down like this?
Or should I feed him raw beef roll (abadi pet brand)
or either one? I just don't know what to feed him.
very stressful!!
He's eating the newman's own fine

He's sleeping with his head down...boy this doesn't look great.
 I hope this isn't his end.
I put water in his mouth and forced him to drink it closing his mouth with a little spoon several times
today, doesn't even look like he wants to drink water.

I will get him to a vet but don't know what to do until then.

No blood in the urine, thank you Mrs Greensjeens...he was just peeing everyone
on the floor, maybe he's stressed he's in a bathroom and not run of house.
That's relieving to know....okay phew...he has been peeing so it's not some UTI.
Maybe the ACV is a bad thing, that was for a bladder infection, a vet would know
what's wrong better than I am, it's weekend now so I am trying to figure it out.
 

I saw probiotics with the vermont brand.

Maybe he has a flu bug or infection and just needs to rest.
He walks around he's just miserable and walking very slow. I took him outside for sunshine and grass

He was throwing up a while back, I feel guilty now not taking him to the vet
I didn't know it could indicate a problem

Feed him chia seeds or coconut oil? Coconut oil is supposed to be anti-bacterial
 
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By all means, feed him wet food, the smellier the better. Use a pate - Fancy Feast or Friskies are fine. Mix a couple of tablespoons of water in the food to make a slurry. You need to get water into him if he is not drinking enough on his own. If he throws up after he eats (I assume you will stop with the vinegar), put a teaspoon of pumpkin in his slurry. Use plain pie pumpkin or the powder you can get at a good pet store. Getting the water in him is the way to go if he has urine crystals. 

And get him to the vet first thing on Tuesday. Tuesday if you are in the states, tomorrow if you're not.
 

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Thanks so much I am reading everything everyone wrote.
He doesn't want to eat or drink too much, weak and miserable looking,
walking slow.  He'll eat a tiny bit but not a lot.

Is newman's own chicken/fish wet food okay to feed him if he's run down like this?
Or should I feed him raw beef roll (abadi pet brand)
or either one? I just don't know what to feed him.
very stressful!!
He's eating the newman's own fine

He's sleeping with his head down...boy this doesn't look great.
 I hope this isn't his end.
I put water in his mouth and forced him to drink it closing his mouth with a little spoon several times
today, doesn't even look like he wants to drink water.

I will get him to a vet but don't know what to do until then.

No blood in the urine, thank you Mrs Greensjeens...he was just peeing everyone
on the floor, maybe he's stressed he's in a bathroom and not run of house.
That's relieving to know....okay phew...he has been peeing so it's not some UTI.
Maybe the ACV is a bad thing, that was for a bladder infection, a vet would know
what's wrong better than I am, it's weekend now so I am trying to figure it out.
 

I saw probiotics with the vermont brand.

Maybe he has a flu bug or infection and just needs to rest.
He walks around he's just miserable and walking very slow. I took him outside for sunshine and grass

He was throwing up a while back, I feel guilty now not taking him to the vet
I didn't know it could indicate a problem

Feed him chia seeds or coconut oil? Coconut oil is supposed to be anti-bacterial
I think that your cat is seriously ill and I doubt that it is a condition that will resolve with rest.  Don't mess around with chia seeds or coconut oil, which is not particularly anti-bacterial, nor probiotics.   Just give give him whatever moist food that he will eat and continue with the water.  As I wrote before, I believe that your cat needs to see a vet urgently!

With kind regards,

Geoffrey
 

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Will you be able to get your cat to a vet tomorrow? He is seriously ill but there is no reason to accept he will die without having him seen.
 

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your cat could have a UTI without having blood in his urine.  if he's peeing a lot, he could also have diabetes or kidney damage, both highly treatable but without treatment dangerous. 

if you've given him vinegar, you could have hurt his tummy so he doesn't want to eat or drink.  it's highly acidic.

please, please get your cat to a vet!
 

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The Vet needs to do bloodwork in Canada it's roughly 300.00 plus your vet visit then meds after that. If nothing more serious is found.  He's peeing everywhere because they associate the pain with the litter box. 
If you don't have a Vet willing to make payment arrangements they may inform you of pet credit insurance companies.  Gofundme pages, collecting bottles...the longer you wait the worse and more serious it's going to get. Supplements that are antibacterial are not strong enough to cure the cats serious infection it needs prescribed strong meds. from a Dr.  I cured blood in urine with ACV once few months later it came back worse :(
 
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Maybe he doesn't have a UTI--he is peeing, and peed in his box
I'm taking him to a vet thanks everyone for writing...I just flipped out in a panic attack, my cat hasn't been sick his entire life! He was so sick past few days but today perked up and is walking around eating and drinking thank God..

I wonder what is wrong with him. I dropped a carrier he was in (I don't have a screen porch and don't let him run outside) and wonder if he was traumatized.
He had been meowing night and day loudly without stopping and I was just stressed to the max and accidentally dropped the carrier on my lawn.  
I think it was after that he started peeing. I now noticed that his spine is sticking really up, like it is pointy! I hope nothing happened, maybe he's just skinny and not eating enough.
He won't eat wet food but does want salmon. Picky guy I guess.
He is weak and not running around like he normally does and his back legs look a little weird, like he is limping slow, he can still walk. I touched back of his spine in the back near his tailbone and it seemed sore.
 
I am trying to find a good holistic vet.
I saw cranberry is good for UTI but don't know if he has one. Should I give him cranberry ?
Don't really know what's wrong until I see a vet so just trying to figure it out. Very stressful.
He was meowing non-stop for weeks, I mean just crying loudly I have no idea why, he wanted food maybe or thought he would be stuck in the bathroom maybe, I had to put him there as he was peeing everywhere. He used his litter box to pee yesterday, thank God, hope that stays, and sleeping on a cushion next to my bed. So stressful.

Something is up with the cat, everything happened at once. He had black specks but no fleas anywhere so I gave him d-earth a few days, he's been vomiting and peeing.
He has mites in his ears so I have an earwash, and his eyes are dripping black gook, wiping that off, a while back the vet said it was an allergy.

Maybe  he needs a PT or chiropractor if his spine is pointy.
 
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Seventh--he probabbly needs an anti-biotic from vet, good point. Thank you

I read ACV or cranberry will prevent but if there's an infection need an rx.
He's peeing though so don't even know if he has a UTI---vet can test or I read you can buy a home kit.

There isn't any blood in his urine, have never seen it.
 

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Before you do anything else, see any other specialists, or give him any supplements, he needs to see a regular vet. He needs to see a vet as soon as possible.

He is meowing because he is in pain. Your cat is very sick.

Is he neutered? Vaccinated? Are you feeding him normal cat food at all?
 
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Just to repeat TalkingPeanut, your cat is very sick with multiple issues. He needs to see a medical vet ASAP. Don't delay, and don't try anything else.
 

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Just to reinforce Dreamer Rose: Do not mess around with chiropractor, nor holistic vets.  Take your cat to a vet who practises orthodox veterinary medicine.    Holistics, chiropraxy nor cranberry are of no value when you have a sick cat - or a sick person as far as that is concerned.  I have practised medicine now for over 60 years and have discovered that alternative medicine can only be indulged in when you are well!

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Seventh--he probabbly needs an anti-biotic from vet, good point. Thank you

I read ACV or cranberry will prevent but if there's an infection need an rx.
He's peeing though so don't even know if he has a UTI---vet can test or I read you can buy a home kit.

There isn't any blood in his urine, have never seen it.
Sadly you may not see the blood he is losing with the naked eye  :(   if you do the

'tent test' to test for dehydration (pinch back of neck/shoulders watching to see how long it takes to go back to normal) to see if he's dehydrated if he is hydrated then he's been losing weight with either you still need to see a vet to clarify why and what is going on...
a holistic vet charge$ more than a regular Vet. 

I paid 15-20.00 per month for Thyroid meds. Plus Sub Q fluids varied.. He maybe hyperthyroid...Needs a Vet for meds!
 
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