I have just adopted a semi-feral kitty and I am looking to keep her on a flea preventive. She is already on Revolution but looking for an otc monthly treatment. She is utd on all shots. I also have 3 pups that are on different flea/heartworm meds. I found Blue Bottle Advanced on Amazon and it has great reviews but you can only trust that so much. Blue Bottle's active ingredient is imadacloprid. I was wondering if anyone has used it before. It's a great price if it works and safe for both my new kitty and my two smaller pups. Thanks so much!!
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Anyone ever use Blue Bottle Advanced
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I am sorry I've never heard of this. I use Revolution, which can be pricey. Perhaps someone else will come along with some other information.
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Revolution is a monthly topical parasite (including fleas) treatment / preventative. I'm not sure why you want to use another monthly topical parasite treatment product on your cat at the same time.
Please ask your vet for recommended OTC parasite treatments / preventatives that you can safely use along with the Revolution and that can be used on the dogs as well.
Please ask your vet for recommended OTC parasite treatments / preventatives that you can safely use along with the Revolution and that can be used on the dogs as well.
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are you saying you want to add a second monthly topical or that you want to use a different topical to replace revolution?
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I'm sorry maybe I should clarify a little bit. I am wanting to replace the revolution one reason is cost and another is my vet won't sale it without seeing her ( I got her from a rescue group they supplied this month to be nice) I was just looking for a monthly otc flea treatment and I saw this and just wanted to know if anyone has used it. I have done some research on the different types of monthly treatments and what their active ingredient do. I just wanted to know if anyone had first hand experience with it. She will remain outside, the girl who had her said she just likes being outside but she is getting a nice home and feeding station built. It would be great if I could find something that works for both the new kitty and my two smaller dogs. Thanks
Imidacloprid is the active ingredient in Advantage II (Bayer). Blue Bottle sounds like a generic 'knock off' of Advantage.
Here are my thoughts, as a person with lots of years as a vet worker: Cats are sensitive to chemicals, particularly insecticides. Imidacloprid, as Advantage-- in the proportions that Bayer uses to make their product-- has a good safety record in cats. I know absolutely nothing. When I Googled 'imidacloprid blue bottle', one of the results WAS for Bayer's 'Bayer Advanced', which is a landscape product using imidacloprid.
I hope this isn't what you were referring to, OP! https://www.bayeradvanced.com/find-a-product/tree-shrub-care/12-month-tree-shrub-protect-feed
Or... is this something you found on eBay, like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/152142409887?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true
EDIT: It's this stuff ^^^
Advantage as packaged and labeled for pets has a good track record. But Bayer Advanced is NOT a pet treatment-- it's a lawn treatment, not for pets.
I also do NOT trust flea medicines or any drug of any kind that I find on Amazon or an online auction, especially when it carries no original label. This looks to me (the eBay one) like someone got hold of "something" that may or may not be genuine Advantage, put it in some sort of blue bottle, and stuck a home printed label with a website on it. This listing looks fake as a three dollar bill to me, and it raises the question of authenticity and SAFETY. What IS that stuff? Is it really what it says it is on the label?
Is it something I want to put on my cat?
Sorry... from what I see of 'blue bottle' and 'imidacloprid', and 'flea'... I don't like what comes up. This looks reeeally sketchy. I don't know where you are, but most vets here will sell 'real' and safe Advantage without a prescription. In fact, you can buy it at pet stores. The real deal. No ghetto-style printed labels. No bull.
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Here are my thoughts, as a person with lots of years as a vet worker: Cats are sensitive to chemicals, particularly insecticides. Imidacloprid, as Advantage-- in the proportions that Bayer uses to make their product-- has a good safety record in cats. I know absolutely nothing. When I Googled 'imidacloprid blue bottle', one of the results WAS for Bayer's 'Bayer Advanced', which is a landscape product using imidacloprid.
I hope this isn't what you were referring to, OP! https://www.bayeradvanced.com/find-a-product/tree-shrub-care/12-month-tree-shrub-protect-feed
Or... is this something you found on eBay, like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/152142409887?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true
EDIT: It's this stuff ^^^
Advantage as packaged and labeled for pets has a good track record. But Bayer Advanced is NOT a pet treatment-- it's a lawn treatment, not for pets.
I also do NOT trust flea medicines or any drug of any kind that I find on Amazon or an online auction, especially when it carries no original label. This looks to me (the eBay one) like someone got hold of "something" that may or may not be genuine Advantage, put it in some sort of blue bottle, and stuck a home printed label with a website on it. This listing looks fake as a three dollar bill to me, and it raises the question of authenticity and SAFETY. What IS that stuff? Is it really what it says it is on the label?
Is it something I want to put on my cat?
Sorry... from what I see of 'blue bottle' and 'imidacloprid', and 'flea'... I don't like what comes up. This looks reeeally sketchy. I don't know where you are, but most vets here will sell 'real' and safe Advantage without a prescription. In fact, you can buy it at pet stores. The real deal. No ghetto-style printed labels. No bull.
~Mackie Mac
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will the rescue group sell you another dose of revolution if you explain the situation? btw, you can buy advantage 2 off of amazon - right now you can get a 6 pack for $52.
We used to get the "Huge D*g" size tubes and measure out the proper cat-sized dose, using a 1 ml syringe and a LONG needle to get it neatly out of the tube (take the needle off the syringe before applying, of course).
The product is exactly the same. The cat size tubes are just a LOT smaller. Yet the "retail store" down the street charges more for the cat sizes than they do for even the biggest dog size. Makes zero sense...
It's my policy not to post the "off label" instructions in case your cat has a weird response. But FWIW... the huge d*g size tube holds TEN small-cat (under 9 lbs.) doses. Now, say you have a LOT of cats, or you work in a breed rescue place...
Like the Meezer Ranch (Texas Siamese Cat Rescue)...
...you go through a lot of Advantage! But again, it was real Advantage, not sketchy Internet stuff with a crudely done craptastic looking glue-stick label on a dollar store 20-for-a-buck plastic bottle.
The product is exactly the same. The cat size tubes are just a LOT smaller. Yet the "retail store" down the street charges more for the cat sizes than they do for even the biggest dog size. Makes zero sense...
It's my policy not to post the "off label" instructions in case your cat has a weird response. But FWIW... the huge d*g size tube holds TEN small-cat (under 9 lbs.) doses. Now, say you have a LOT of cats, or you work in a breed rescue place...
Like the Meezer Ranch (Texas Siamese Cat Rescue)...
...you go through a lot of Advantage! But again, it was real Advantage, not sketchy Internet stuff with a crudely done craptastic looking glue-stick label on a dollar store 20-for-a-buck plastic bottle.
You can buy Revolution online for less from various pet supply web sites like DrsFosterandSmith.com I don't think a prescription is needed but you may be asked to provide the name and phone number of your vet.
I've heard of people using the dog formula for one of the big name parasite treatments / preventatives for both their dogs and cats, obviously using a reduced dose size for the cats. Maybe someone here knows which brand it is. You should definitely double check with your vet to be sure that the product would be ok to use for the cats and what the proper cat sized dose is.
I've heard of people using the dog formula for one of the big name parasite treatments / preventatives for both their dogs and cats, obviously using a reduced dose size for the cats. Maybe someone here knows which brand it is. You should definitely double check with your vet to be sure that the product would be ok to use for the cats and what the proper cat sized dose is.
Another thought-- when you are battling fleas, it's important to also treat the premises-- your house or apartment and your yard if you have one. If you live in an apartment or condo, it can be a challenge because there are many pets all together and not everyone is diligent about addressing fleas.
Here is a graphic describing the flea life cycle:
I know it's small, but if you check the description under the pupa, you will see that the pupa can stick around for anywhere from a week to four months or even longer before the adult flea emerges. The pupa is extremely hard to kill, as most insecticides do not penetrate the shell. So, adult fleas can emerge long after you think you have the fleas eliminated. This is why it's so important to stick with the monthly flea control products, and vacuum, vacuum, vacuum when you're chasing these buggers out. Be sure to empty the vacuum outside as soon as you're done using it so that the fleas don't 'hatch out' in your vacuum! Products with growth regulators will also help disrupt their development so that they cannot reproduce. It can take a very long time to get the fleas out of your home and yard, and new fleas will always come as animals with fleas (like other pets, or raccoons and opossums, and other warm blooded critters) pass through.
As for the question of 2 flea products at the same time-- it was not unusual for us (at the vets where I worked) to have a heavily infested pet on a combination of Advantage and Program (lufenuron) for a while. The two products work differently, and they are safe to use together. But Program is a prescription, so you'd need a vet to prescribe it. Usually, this was not a lifelong routine, just something to address the first stages of a flea attack campaign.
However, the best attack is to treat the cat AND the premises, and you will probably need to treat the premises several times to get the new hatch-outs from the pupae. DO NOT skimp on this step, or else you will have a flea resort community with your cat as the main amenity.
You might also be aware that fleas can transmit tapeworms to your cat. If your cat grooms and then swallows a flea that's carrying tapeworm eggs, your cat can get tapeworms. You can't get these tapes from her by contact if she gets them-- you would have to swallow a flea like she did. Not very likely!
Here is a graphic describing the flea life cycle:
I know it's small, but if you check the description under the pupa, you will see that the pupa can stick around for anywhere from a week to four months or even longer before the adult flea emerges. The pupa is extremely hard to kill, as most insecticides do not penetrate the shell. So, adult fleas can emerge long after you think you have the fleas eliminated. This is why it's so important to stick with the monthly flea control products, and vacuum, vacuum, vacuum when you're chasing these buggers out. Be sure to empty the vacuum outside as soon as you're done using it so that the fleas don't 'hatch out' in your vacuum! Products with growth regulators will also help disrupt their development so that they cannot reproduce. It can take a very long time to get the fleas out of your home and yard, and new fleas will always come as animals with fleas (like other pets, or raccoons and opossums, and other warm blooded critters) pass through.
As for the question of 2 flea products at the same time-- it was not unusual for us (at the vets where I worked) to have a heavily infested pet on a combination of Advantage and Program (lufenuron) for a while. The two products work differently, and they are safe to use together. But Program is a prescription, so you'd need a vet to prescribe it. Usually, this was not a lifelong routine, just something to address the first stages of a flea attack campaign.
However, the best attack is to treat the cat AND the premises, and you will probably need to treat the premises several times to get the new hatch-outs from the pupae. DO NOT skimp on this step, or else you will have a flea resort community with your cat as the main amenity.
You might also be aware that fleas can transmit tapeworms to your cat. If your cat grooms and then swallows a flea that's carrying tapeworm eggs, your cat can get tapeworms. You can't get these tapes from her by contact if she gets them-- you would have to swallow a flea like she did. Not very likely!
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Thanks for the responses I will be ordering the extra large dog breed and dosing in out to the kitty and my little dogs and my boyfriends kitty is moving in on Thursday. I have read about that not only on here but talked to some rescues and this seems to be the best idea for me. Other than the ingredients and top Amazon reviews I cannot find much info on the Blue Bottle. Hopefully in the next 3 months (after I run out of all the pups stuff) I can have everyone on the same stuff and on the same day to help keep things organized :-) Thanks for the help
The product is Advantage... I guess now it's called Advantage II. It's the plain stuff, not the Multi. An XL Dog size holds 4 ml.
*Do not use on kittens younger than 8 weeks
Product insert: https://bayer.naccvp.com/product/view/basic/1040063?u=bayer&p=dvm
(Follow these instructions at your own risk. Understand that this is an off-label use of the product... sort of. And this is a standard disclaimer, as I am providing this information for informational purposes only. What anyone chooses to do with it is up to them. Sorry, as a vet worker I am in the habit of saying all this jazz...)
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I foster for a local cat rescue and this is the product they have been using for years. My first experience with Blue Bottle Flea Treatment was 6 months ago when I had a litter of kittens come in covered in fleas. I must say this worked very well, within less than 24 hours these kittens were completely flea free. I have since started using this on my own personal pets and have been very satisfied with it. It works just as well (if not better) than anything you can get a vet but it much more economical, especially for rescues and multi-pet homes. I hate to see so many people bashing a product that they have never even tried. If you haven't used it, you shouldn't have an opinion on it. But I can say it does work without any side effects.
You have received a lot of good advice . New cats need a thorough work up by a vet. Shots, possible deworming , tests for feline leukemia and feline hiv, a physical . You really should take her to the vet, the humane society has very reasonable fees.
I would advise not buying products like these off amazon . Not only is Blue a knock off itself, amazon sells a large volume of fakes , everything from face cream to toothpaste to supplements to flea tinctures . My dr told me never to buy anything on amazon that you consume or put on your body . Chairs , books are ok, not a chemical you put on your cat . Read the reviews for numerous products , amazon has become a beast and has no qualms about selling fakes , a great deal are fakes and dangerous
Cats are a responsibility , basic things like flea control should be addressed with a vet as your cat's vet rightly asked you to do . It's not unreasonable and will be inexpensive for something so minor . She needs to be checked for a lot of things . Every cat I've seen adopted including my own , came with ear mites and worms at minimum , despite the fact they tell you they're in great condition .
If you are not going to get your cat healthcare at this easy stage , what will happen when she needs check ups or requires treatment for curable illnesses? These are things to consider before adopting a cat.
The price of Revolution is very inexpensive these days, used to be 5 times the cost when it first came out.
I hope you can follow your vet's advice.
With your boyfriends cat moving in, I hope both have been tested for feline leukemia and hiv , if one has it, the other will acquire it.
I don't see the bunch of great reviews for blue bottle advanced on amazon .
Once you use revolution and eliminate fleas in your home , you don't need to keep treating monthly or ever again . I treated my 2 cats with revolution for 3 months at the outset and they never had a single flea for the next 12 years and counting . If you have a flea problem at home , it will be a vicious cycle . If you plan to douse your cat monthly on a long term basis , that's not a good idea, these are potent chemicals . Make sure your bf's cat is flea free and virus free before he moves in . Maybe get your cat's and dogs fleas eradicated first as well. Safe and careful planning should be considered for all animals involved .
Best of luck
Edit: you may want to read this.
Lost My Cat After A Bad Reaction To Cheristin Flea Meds?
I have a great deal of sympathy for this poor cat. I would read her post , it should be sobering. Please take your cat to the vet before administering any flea treatments .
I would advise not buying products like these off amazon . Not only is Blue a knock off itself, amazon sells a large volume of fakes , everything from face cream to toothpaste to supplements to flea tinctures . My dr told me never to buy anything on amazon that you consume or put on your body . Chairs , books are ok, not a chemical you put on your cat . Read the reviews for numerous products , amazon has become a beast and has no qualms about selling fakes , a great deal are fakes and dangerous
Cats are a responsibility , basic things like flea control should be addressed with a vet as your cat's vet rightly asked you to do . It's not unreasonable and will be inexpensive for something so minor . She needs to be checked for a lot of things . Every cat I've seen adopted including my own , came with ear mites and worms at minimum , despite the fact they tell you they're in great condition .
If you are not going to get your cat healthcare at this easy stage , what will happen when she needs check ups or requires treatment for curable illnesses? These are things to consider before adopting a cat.
The price of Revolution is very inexpensive these days, used to be 5 times the cost when it first came out.
I hope you can follow your vet's advice.
With your boyfriends cat moving in, I hope both have been tested for feline leukemia and hiv , if one has it, the other will acquire it.
I don't see the bunch of great reviews for blue bottle advanced on amazon .
Once you use revolution and eliminate fleas in your home , you don't need to keep treating monthly or ever again . I treated my 2 cats with revolution for 3 months at the outset and they never had a single flea for the next 12 years and counting . If you have a flea problem at home , it will be a vicious cycle . If you plan to douse your cat monthly on a long term basis , that's not a good idea, these are potent chemicals . Make sure your bf's cat is flea free and virus free before he moves in . Maybe get your cat's and dogs fleas eradicated first as well. Safe and careful planning should be considered for all animals involved .
Best of luck
Edit: you may want to read this.
Lost My Cat After A Bad Reaction To Cheristin Flea Meds?
I have a great deal of sympathy for this poor cat. I would read her post , it should be sobering. Please take your cat to the vet before administering any flea treatments .
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Please do NOT buy "Blue Bottle Advanced Flea Control" on eBay or Amazon. It is not legally labeled, packaged or manufactured in accordance with FDA regulations. I purchased it a month ago and the liquid is white and milky and very much looks like Bayer Advanced Complete lawn pesticide (which I have used in the past) which ALSO comes in a blue bottle and ALSO contains imidacloprid, but who knows what other chemicals they use to produce it, since it is for lawns and gardens, not animals! The REAL Advantage II flea control is a clear liquid and is manufactured for pets, not lawns.
I have reported "Blue Bottle Advanced Flea Control" and the eBay sellers to the FDA criminal investigations unit, as I am 99.9% certain it is a fake product and quite possibly lawn pesticide labeled as flea preventative, which is fraudulent and illegal! I also reported the listings to eBay because the product violates their listings practices. Flea medication must be in the original manufacturer's packaging to be sold on eBay, and this product obviously is not. I will be reporting the Amazon listing as well. If anyone else would help report these listings too, perhaps it would help them to hurry up and remove them, since they are not safe for anyone's pets!
I too decided to buy Advantage II extra large dog 6-pack on Amazon. I squirt one pack into a small bottle and use a syringe to administer the smaller appropriate dose to my dogs and cats. It saves a lot of money, and it will last me a year or longer with two small dogs and three cats.
I hope this rant helps anyone considering buying this fake product! Stick with the real stuff. Thanks and have a nice day!
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